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Obama XXIV: Forward ... pause ... rewind ... play
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My 911 with that engine sitting over the wheels has been just fantastic on mountain roads in snow, ice, and heavy rain. But you are correct i would not take that low clearance out in deep stuff. Our Audis have just been unbeatable in all weather conditions (with Jen's A4 being the best). Most of our bad condition driving is either here in NJ or getting around the Adirondacks from our hojme up there. I am no car expert but they have something special in their AWD system and the cars just handle in bad conditions the best. However-for deep snow and getting around in the last 36 inch blizzard we did use the Lincoln Navigator. Our worst handling cars in bad weather? Jen's big Mercedes S500 was all over the road and hard to keep on course. Our experience with BMW is tainted since we did not have the X Drive system in our big sedan. The car was horrible in snow and ice. Way back in the dark ages of 1972 I had a SAAB 900E with free wheeling (you only clutched and shifted into first and reverse) which was super in the snow but was probably the quirkiest and most unreliable car I ever owned.
Considering our entire list of cars-the most reliable was without doubt the Porsches. The worst was the SAAB followed closely by my Chevy Suburban (but i think we just had a lemon in that case). Again-no expertise with cars and just reporting our experiences with the long list we have owned.
My 911 with that engine sitting over the wheels has been just fantastic on mountain roads in snow, ice, and heavy rain. But you are correct i would not take that low clearance out in deep stuff. Our Audis have just been unbeatable in all weather conditions (with Jen's A4 being the best). Most of our bad condition driving is either here in NJ or getting around the Adirondacks from our hojme up there. I am no car expert but they have something special in their AWD system and the cars just handle in bad conditions the best. However-for deep snow and getting around in the last 36 inch blizzard we did use the Lincoln Navigator. Our worst handling cars in bad weather? Jen's big Mercedes S500 was all over the road and hard to keep on course. Our experience with BMW is tainted since we did not have the X Drive system in our big sedan. The car was horrible in snow and ice. Way back in the dark ages of 1972 I had a SAAB 900E with free wheeling (you only clutched and shifted into first and reverse) which was super in the snow but was probably the quirkiest and most unreliable car I ever owned.
Considering our entire list of cars-the most reliable was without doubt the Porsches. The worst was the SAAB followed closely by my Chevy Suburban (but i think we just had a lemon in that case). Again-no expertise with cars and just reporting our experiences with the long list we have owned.
FlagDUDE08
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Amen to that one. With the Adirondacks, I figured out quickly enough that a SUV with 4WD (read: NOT AWD) is the way to go. AWD only works on pavement.
Amen to that one. With the Adirondacks, I figured out quickly enough that a SUV with 4WD (read: NOT AWD) is the way to go. AWD only works on pavement.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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i have found that driving in the snow is all indian, regardless of the arrow.
i have found that driving in the snow is all indian, regardless of the arrow.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/08/196631.htm
All I can think of when I read this is, "Man, this is probably the first and last time we see the Department of State use the terms 'pussy' and 'riot' in the same press release."
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/08/196631.htm
All I can think of when I read this is, "Man, this is probably the first and last time we see the Department of State use the terms 'pussy' and 'riot' in the same press release."
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When the roads are dry-we go from Blue Mt Lake to Indian Lake (11.2 miles) in 8 minutes. When it is rainy or light snow-about 25 minutes. Both in a 911 Targa(absolutely love that car). Traction is phenomenal with Pirelli P7 tires. But that is not an easy car to learn to drive as it is very unforgiving. On those mountain roads you can with most cars back off the gas and stay on course. With a 911, you make a mistake, and they read about it in the local papers the next day.
When the roads are dry-we go from Blue Mt Lake to Indian Lake (11.2 miles) in 8 minutes. When it is rainy or light snow-about 25 minutes. Both in a 911 Targa(absolutely love that car). Traction is phenomenal with Pirelli P7 tires. But that is not an easy car to learn to drive as it is very unforgiving. On those mountain roads you can with most cars back off the gas and stay on course. With a 911, you make a mistake, and they read about it in the local papers the next day.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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You can drive a 911 in snow, but you can't tell me it does well. If you say that with a straight face, it means you haven't driven a car that's actually good in the snow or you haven't driven it in actual snow.. I don't care if it costs as much as I make in a year.
Agreed on the last part.
You can drive a 911 in snow, but you can't tell me it does well. If you say that with a straight face, it means you haven't driven a car that's actually good in the snow or you haven't driven it in actual snow.. I don't care if it costs as much as I make in a year.
Agreed on the last part.
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Sounds like you did Audi during the 90s when it was the sleepwalker of the industry. Great corporate potential...but the car kind of blew.
As Dr Dem says, the 2000s really saw them put their act together (they've been rated car of the year). It is a really great piece of driving. And absolutely in snow. Their centerpiece is the Quattro...which is AWD innovation. In raging ice blizzards, have driven mine up straight up Davern from 7th into St Paul's Highland Park...didn't hesitate when other cars didn't have a chance. Not too much, but one of the consistently steeper, climbs in the cities. I'd put the problems more expensive but somewhat fewer in number than American. Japanese reliability is unsurpassed.
Sounds like you did Audi during the 90s when it was the sleepwalker of the industry. Great corporate potential...but the car kind of blew.
As Dr Dem says, the 2000s really saw them put their act together (they've been rated car of the year). It is a really great piece of driving. And absolutely in snow. Their centerpiece is the Quattro...which is AWD innovation. In raging ice blizzards, have driven mine up straight up Davern from 7th into St Paul's Highland Park...didn't hesitate when other cars didn't have a chance. Not too much, but one of the consistently steeper, climbs in the cities. I'd put the problems more expensive but somewhat fewer in number than American. Japanese reliability is unsurpassed.
manurespreader
Still upright
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Well Dr D interesting about German cars in the snow doing well but you also say that the Mercedes was awful. so, it's not German?
Well Dr D interesting about German cars in the snow doing well but you also say that the Mercedes was awful. so, it's not German?
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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It brings down the average.
It brings down the average.
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Never said it was my choice car for snow. But never had a problem with it. Of course when the weather is bad we use one of our other cars-but we have been caught in some horrible weather on trips with it-and i have never had difficulty. Perhaps because ours has AWD? But given the choice for bad weather driving-we pick on eof our Audis all the time.
Never said it was my choice car for snow. But never had a problem with it. Of course when the weather is bad we use one of our other cars-but we have been caught in some horrible weather on trips with it-and i have never had difficulty. Perhaps because ours has AWD? But given the choice for bad weather driving-we pick on eof our Audis all the time.
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We have had several Audis-1996 A4 was incredibly well made and reliable. Also fun to drive as it is a stick. A 1999 A6 Avant wagon was practical and elegant with all the toys-but not nearly as reliable with several episodes of electronic troubles. Never got stuck with it-always able to get it home or to the dealer-but still a few times it just has been problematic. The new A6-just far and above anything i have ever driven. Technologically superb. Safety features, options and toys, comfort just top notch. Love the night vision, the heads up display, the adaptive cruise control, the side assist, the navigation system and MMI display, comfortable seats-and being able to go 0-60 in a tad under 5 secs with their 310HP supercharged engine is a blast. Do not own it long enough to be able to talk about reliability but it has been flawless so far. Our experience with climbing hills in snow is similar to yours-Troy has never been known to clear the streets well and we have always been able to get up the steep hills to the RPI fieldouse iwhtout any problem. As I mentioned in an earlier post-they are our choice for driving around the Adirondacks in the winter. No wonder they have been setting new sales records each month since more than a year ago.
We have had several Audis-1996 A4 was incredibly well made and reliable. Also fun to drive as it is a stick. A 1999 A6 Avant wagon was practical and elegant with all the toys-but not nearly as reliable with several episodes of electronic troubles. Never got stuck with it-always able to get it home or to the dealer-but still a few times it just has been problematic. The new A6-just far and above anything i have ever driven. Technologically superb. Safety features, options and toys, comfort just top notch. Love the night vision, the heads up display, the adaptive cruise control, the side assist, the navigation system and MMI display, comfortable seats-and being able to go 0-60 in a tad under 5 secs with their 310HP supercharged engine is a blast. Do not own it long enough to be able to talk about reliability but it has been flawless so far. Our experience with climbing hills in snow is similar to yours-Troy has never been known to clear the streets well and we have always been able to get up the steep hills to the RPI fieldouse iwhtout any problem. As I mentioned in an earlier post-they are our choice for driving around the Adirondacks in the winter. No wonder they have been setting new sales records each month since more than a year ago.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
Moving to Alaska??
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
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Someone in Anchorage has a white Nissan GT-R. I've seen it driving around in the dead of winter. Yeah, it's AWD, but that is still a whole lot of car to wrangle on icy roads.
I've seen an orange one as well, but I think that was an imitation kit.
Moving to Alaska??
Someone in Anchorage has a white Nissan GT-R. I've seen it driving around in the dead of winter. Yeah, it's AWD, but that is still a whole lot of car to wrangle on icy roads.
I've seen an orange one as well, but I think that was an imitation kit.
It is concerning to me at least that the two biggest 'achievements' of the current administration include unelected people in small groups making multi-billion dollar decisions with hazy or non-existent congressional oversight.
If that was proposed, one would normally assume it was the republicans.
Regardless of motive, that isnt the best course...the unintended consequences are the concern.
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When I bought it, that was my idea also. But the darn thing is just so much fun to drive. Because we have other cars it really never accumulated much mileage-it is never a car to take shopping and we dont take it places where we have to allow valet parking. One observation though which is rather astounding-it is the only car i ever owned that can sit for weeks and weeks without any problems. Starts instantly and virtually no flat spots in the tires. I have no clue as to why but it has not had any mechanical or electrical problems ever. We have had 2 of these over the years (one from back in 1982 which i kept for 18 years was the most reliable automobile i ever had). Not the most practical of cars and certainly not something that would be my primary ever. But as the extra car kept more as an expensive toy-they have been just great. My neighbor here in NJ has a Testarosa-incredible to look at and fantastic when everything is working right-but I don't think he has driven the car 1/2 as much as his mechanic has.
Could be. But then again, if I owned a Porsche, it wouldn't see the light of day between October and April.
When I bought it, that was my idea also. But the darn thing is just so much fun to drive. Because we have other cars it really never accumulated much mileage-it is never a car to take shopping and we dont take it places where we have to allow valet parking. One observation though which is rather astounding-it is the only car i ever owned that can sit for weeks and weeks without any problems. Starts instantly and virtually no flat spots in the tires. I have no clue as to why but it has not had any mechanical or electrical problems ever. We have had 2 of these over the years (one from back in 1982 which i kept for 18 years was the most reliable automobile i ever had). Not the most practical of cars and certainly not something that would be my primary ever. But as the extra car kept more as an expensive toy-they have been just great. My neighbor here in NJ has a Testarosa-incredible to look at and fantastic when everything is working right-but I don't think he has driven the car 1/2 as much as his mechanic has.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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To be fair, when Republicans do that it's for their own personal profit, so they tend to have well-defined goals and good process control.
To be fair, when Republicans do that it's for their own personal profit, so they tend to have well-defined goals and good process control.
DaveStPaul
New member
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Reminds me of that great P. J. O'Rourke quote: "Republicans are just as bad as Democrats, but at least you know they're trying to make a buck out of it," or something like that.
To be fair, when Republicans do that it's for their own personal profit, so they tend to have well-defined goals and good process control.
Reminds me of that great P. J. O'Rourke quote: "Republicans are just as bad as Democrats, but at least you know they're trying to make a buck out of it," or something like that.