Obama XXII: Occupy the White House

[dxmnkd316]

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I guess the way I see it is this:

If a private citizen was given a moon rock, it would likely be confiscated as soon as it became known this person had it. They are considered property of the United States.

But this is hardly worth arguing about since it will likely wind up in a Naval or Intelligence museum. Plus there are more important things to worry about.

 

[Priceless]

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ouch.

"One of my proudest possessions is the flag that the SEAL Team took
with them on the mission to get bin Laden. "

um. shouldn't that flag belong to the people of the United States? be in a museum? the Navy gets to keep it?

Seriously? This is what you're going to get upset over? People are really reaching for things to complain about...

 

[Bakunin]

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I think Tim Brewster should start writing his speeches.

But then the country would be told it's going to the Rose Bowl. We can't fit 300 million in that stadium.

 

[WeWantMore]

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I was going to watch, but decided a higher priority was repair & refinishing of the kids' ice rink. How did the speech go? More interesting to watch water freeze?

I thought it was a really good speech politically. Lots of popular themes that he hit on. Logically? Eh, not so much. Promising no more bailouts in a speech that spoke glowingly about the auto bailout, talking about how terrible outsourcing is while celebrating Siemens moving jobs here (shouldn't those good German jobs be staying in Germany?), lots of having it both ways in the education portion of the speech as well.

Oh, forgot to mention how useful the video of Harry Reid applauding the "end the filibuster" portion of the speech will be in 2 years.

 

[Hopkinja]

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Three greatest speeches of Hubert Horatio Humphrey:

"I concede"
"I concede"
"I do concede"

(with apologies to David Frye)

I loved that album! We used to listen to it all the time in the dorm.

"Colors! I wanna learn colors, Dick"
"Not now, Spiro!"

 

[dxmnkd316]

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But then the country would be told it's going to the Rose Bowl. We can't fit 300 million in that stadium.

Pssh, you just lack the drive and innovative spirit needed to do it.

 

[pirate]

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I misquoted you?

In one post you complained that teachers were going to Arizona in February (ignoring the fact that there's a holiday and a week off for public schools). Then you posted an agenda in another post, without mentioning that it wasn't in Arizona, and complained about the lack of meetings to do with education. The reason for that is it isn't intended for teachers (a fact you missed or deliberately didn't mention). You also (wrongly) speculated that this was paid for by the taxpayers. Another poster tried to get your back by saying it was paid for with dues (whatever that means) and was an attempt to sway Congress but I've shown that they have to pay their own way and Congress will be out of session at that time. And, by the way, what's wrong with a group of school teachers meeting with Congress?

As for our public schools, the vast majority of them turn out perfectly good young adults. Of course, many of those schools need a lot of structural maintenance but that would require money, and Tebow knows we can't raise revenues.

I thought that by quoting my original post yesterday and then referring specifically to the line in question that it might dawn on you that I never said teachers were going to Arizona. Go back. Read it again.

Now, go back and read the second post, the one on the NEA convention. See, they are two different posts and two different events. I believe I asked the question of who paid for them to attend.

And, btw, how did you conclude they can't be teachers? That they call them delegates doesn't mean they aren't teachers. When the UAW holds a convention, delegates go...that doesn't mean they aren't auto workers. I suspect you know that but were just trying to play with the words. Regardless, be it rank and file or the leadership of the teachers' union or the grand poobah of each school, where is the part in the agenda where they even mention results, dropout rates or anything that might give the impression they are in the business of educating young people effectively? You've apparently done a ton of research on it since my post...perhaps there is another conference they hold where they focus on becoming better at what they do, or at least mention it.

As for the convention in Arizona, for ADMINISTRATORS, my point wasn't whether kids were in class those days; you do realize not every school has the same vacation calendar, right? I pointed out that it was in the middle of the school year. People in retail tend not to hold conventions during the holiday season, lifeguards probably wouldn't hold one on July 4th, they hold the pro bowl after the season...why would school administrators, who have 90 days of the year when there are no daily issues with students, substitute teachers, snow, late buses, angry parents etc. take a week to go to Arizona during the school calendar?

If the kids aren't in school, wouldn't that be a great time for administrators to catch up with principals, hold some meetings to discuss how the year is going etc. Or, it could be a great time to head to the warmth of Arizona.

You can infer what you want from my posts, but at least try to read them and distinguish one from the next. I'm not looking for people to agree with everything/anything I post...but don't take two posts, mix them up and call me out on it.

 

[geezer]

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I don't care if the SEALs gave Barry a flag or whatever, but two things bothered me based on coverage of the speech. Most importantly: "Obama called on millionaires to pay their share, reiterating his support for the "Buffett rule," which he defined: If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes." (according to Slate)
Now this is basing the success of fiscal policy solely on everyone paying in up to an arbitrary level, rather than what is funded, how well government runs, etc etc. Just straight up making people "pay up", even if that money goes into a vault somewhere. The whole mentality that gets someone to this point seems so wrong to me. How about figuring out how much money we need to collect first?*
Number two, in the silly category, is his pronunciation of "Tolly Bonn" for Taliban and "Pokky Stonn" for Pakistan. Even if he's never heard a Pakinstani say Pakistan, which seems unlikely, couldn't he just ask someone on his staff how it's pronounced? Pet peeve of mine.

*what I'm getting at is that even if every one of Barry's pet projects, along with every other gov't dep't was fully funded, but some millionaire in Omaha was only paying 29% in taxes because of deductions or whatever, Barry considers the tax code to have failed. Not because of a need for more funding. But because someone isn't paying a "high enough" percentage.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Seriously? This is what you're going to get upset over? People are really reaching for things to complain about...

There's plenty to get upset over, but the game of partisan whining isn't one that lends itself towards complaining about things that matter.

 

[Kepler]

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he uses "I" "me" "mine" way too much. needs to be "we" "us" and "our". but, yes, this is picky speech class stuff.

I don't think this is picky, it's always annoyed me. The theory (it is a deliberate tactic) is that he's taking personal ownership and showing responsibility and leadership, but I think it plays back into the narrative of his supposed Harvard prima-donna-ism.

It's irritating, but it's such a blessing not to have the President of the United States A-Herp-Derp-Derping through his speeches like Gomer Pyle. After twenty years of that crap Rob Schneider would sound like Churchill.

 

[Kepler]

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Wonkette's summary

The highlights:

9:47 PM — Haha, the Republicans (and Democrats) are not at all excited about letting underwater homeowners get a chance to refinance.

9:48 PM — But then, wild applause when this is somehow against the Wall Street bailouts. Everyone in Washington pretends to be against the Wall Street bailouts.

10:02 PM — Oh boy we’re about to get post-partisan now, a feel good moment to make us remember that no matter whether Republican or Democrat, we’re all basically faced with the same pro-corporate Wall Street Pentagon world-rape choice, which is no choice at all, or something. Let’s get the temperature down, in this town!

10:05 PM — Nancy Pelosi now looks exactly like Pat Benatar.

10:07 PM — And they cut to Vinegar Joe Lieberman just in time for Obama to mouth some AIPAC talking points about nuking Iran, to make sure Iran doesn’t have a dangerous nuke.

10:17 PM — So the nation is great because after terrorists lash out at us, we will spend 10 years ****ing up totally unrelated countries, and then eventually slaughter some half-mythical terror king in a suburb, in Pakistan, because we are so great.

10:19 PM — Truly a great speech, from the greatest president, before the greatest Congress, in the greatest country in the world FOREVER and **** the rest of the world, we are going on a “bipartisan date” with an old millionaire who wants to suck us off in a broom closet at Union Station, the end, may Allah bless the USA.

 

[sagard]

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There's plenty to get upset over, but the game of partisan whining isn't one that lends itself towards complaining about things that matter.

I keep waiting for the Repubs to admit their foreign policy mistakes and vow to prevent them from happening again. Additionally I'd like them to be a bit more tolerant on social issues. At that point I don't see any reason why anyone in the middle would vote Dems again. I realize I'll be waiting a LOOONNNG time, but I'm patient.

 

[Rover]

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I can understand why Daniels didn't run for President. He sounded like Charlie Brown's teacher. Wonk wonk wonk woooonk. Yikes. THIS is the white knight that's going to save the party from the Romney/Gingrich debacle? Good luck with that.

 

[joecct]

I can understand why Daniels didn't run for President. He sounded like Charlie Brown's teacher. Wonk wonk wonk woooonk. Yikes. THIS is the white knight that's going to save the party from the Romney/Gingrich debacle? Good luck with that.

No he's not. But if a deadlocked convention needs a compromise candidate, he's on the list.

 

[Kepler]

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No he's not. But if a deadlocked convention needs a compromise candidate, he's on the list.

Adlai Stevenson was nominated twice. And post-TV. Dukakis was also Wonk Central. And Gore.

Oh, I think I begin to see your point.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Am I the only one that saw flaws in the SOTU address? Offering what amounts to "introductory rates" to businesses, trying to push education reform with no way to oust what is currently there, and not calling on the American people to do things in support of their country instead of using taxpayer dollars to make those things happen?

 

[Kepler]

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Am I the only one that saw flaws in the SOTU address?

I have yet to see anybody call it flawless, so, um, no?

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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The bit about not giving tax breaks to companies who outsource jobs is great.

Except for the part where it'll never happen. The President may have forgotten how almost all of these guys get into office.

 

[Old Pio]

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Wonkette's summary

The highlights:

9:47 PM — Haha, the Republicans (and Democrats) are not at all excited about letting underwater homeowners get a chance to refinance.

9:48 PM — But then, wild applause when this is somehow against the Wall Street bailouts. Everyone in Washington pretends to be against the Wall Street bailouts.

10:02 PM — Oh boy we’re about to get post-partisan now, a feel good moment to make us remember that no matter whether Republican or Democrat, we’re all basically faced with the same pro-corporate Wall Street Pentagon world-rape choice, which is no choice at all, or something. Let’s get the temperature down, in this town!

10:05 PM — Nancy Pelosi now looks exactly like Pat Benatar.

10:07 PM — And they cut to Vinegar Joe Lieberman just in time for Obama to mouth some AIPAC talking points about nuking Iran, to make sure Iran doesn’t have a dangerous nuke.

10:17 PM — So the nation is great because after terrorists lash out at us, we will spend 10 years ****ing up totally unrelated countries, and then eventually slaughter some half-mythical terror king in a suburb, in Pakistan, because we are so great.

10:19 PM — Truly a great speech, from the greatest president, before the greatest Congress, in the greatest country in the world FOREVER and **** the rest of the world, we are going on a “bipartisan date” with an old millionaire who wants to suck us off in a broom closet at Union Station, the end, may Allah bless the USA.

Retards

 

[Rover]

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I saw the speech was well recieved by a 91% to 9% ratio, which is pretty good even though the sample viewship would have made up more Dems that normal. Thought the distribution was 50% Dems 25% GOP 25% Indies amongst the viewers.