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Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.

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The federal bans were enacted in part to protect tourism and lessen the chance of oil spills washing on to beaches.
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What a terrible idea. A spill will never happen.

:rolleyes:
 
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Priceless said:
What a terrible idea. A spill will never happen.

:rolleyes:
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Using that warped logic, you should never leave your house, because you might fall over and never be able to get up again.

You should never eat anything, because you could get food poisioning.

You should never drive a car, because you could get into an accident.

You should never breathe, because you might breathe noxious chemicals.

Let's never take any risks, ever. Because, you know, it's not like we need oil or anything.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Using that warped logic, you should never leave your house, because you might fall over and never be able to get up again.

You should never eat anything, because you could get food poisioning.

You should never drive a car, because you could get into an accident.

You should never breathe, because you might breathe noxious chemicals.

Let's never take any risks, ever. Because, you know, it's not like we need oil or anything.
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let's let the British stomp on our d*ks in 1776. Let's let the Japanese push us around in 1941. Let's never invent things like the lightbulb, the cotton gin, the free market system, the gloryhole, and the micro processing chip.

Oh wait, let's take some risks, discover what works, and what doesn't. That's what our country was founded on; let's keep it going.

But oh no, you might offend someone. You might hurt something. Grow the *k up Priceless. :rolleyes:
 
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Priceless said:
What a terrible idea. A spill will never happen.

:rolleyes:
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Well then, let's just stop trying to get pretty much every form of fuel/energy, since there's a risk with darn near all of them.

Hydroelectric power? Forget that, it can kill fish by heating the water.
Natural gas? Nope - it can explode.
Coal? Mine might collapse and kill miners.
Nuclear? Can't risk a meltdown.
Wind? The turbines might kill birds.
Solar? Energy has to be stored somehow (batteries), and batteries can pose environmental hazards.

Gee, I guess we can't use ANY form of energy.
 
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.

Sloe Gin said:
let's let the British stomp on our d*ks in 1776. Let's let the Japanese push us around in 1941. Let's never invent things like the lightbulb, the cotton gin, the free market system, the gloryhole, and the micro processing chip.

Oh wait, let's take some risks, discover what works, and what doesn't. That's what our country was founded on; let's keep it going.

But oh no, you might offend someone. You might hurt something. Grow the *k up Priceless. :rolleyes:
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Let's never push for the ERA.

Let's never pass universal health care.

Let's never grant gays civil unions.

You might offend somebody. You might challenge 18th century upper class attitudes towards the sanctity of property.
 
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It shouldn't be a shock to anybody...we spend more energy (figuratively) on trying to prevent bad things from happening than we do trying to make things happen.

Seems simple enough but how much money gets spent, in the form of price increases, for you to get a sticker on the side of your lawn mower telling you not to stick your hand in it while running?

I don't want kids to suffocate in plastic bags, but we pay to have the notes on them telling them not to do it. Is there any proof whatsoever that the note actually saves anybody? Who reads the note and then says "oh, now that you tell me" and takes it away from the baby?

None of that seems like a big deal but there is no thought given to random acts, low percentages and the cost...they just create a new regulation on something stupid while not inspecting bridges, oil wells etc.

Is it easier to pass a law saying there has to be a warning on your cooler telling you it isn't a flotation device or solve a real problem?

We see it in schools, ban the silly bands but still have a miserable dropout rate.

Hey, we may be heading towards a generation that has it worse than their parents but at least nobody will go without nutritional information on the side of a candy bar.
 
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Could more bad analogies be packed into one page? :confused:

Priceless isn't saying lets go back to horse. There are good ways to accomplish something and bad ways. As many consider the oil spill to rival the worst environmental disasters in history...perhaps just perhaps, there are better options and/or locations out there.
 
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walrus said:
What are they?
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we could put notes on the sides of nuclear reactors saying

WARNING: - may release fog of toxic steam
- may melt into the core of the earth
- may go boom
- may do all of the above

I think that would work. So, now nuclear is an even better option because it has been rendered safe via the miracle warning sticker.
 
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walrus said:
What are they?
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Land based, other forms of energy, alternatives...do you honestly believe that what is approaching one of the worst environmental disasters in history could not have been done better?

Both Fox (now) and CBS agree...deep sea drilling has been mishandled and is putting the environment at serious risk:

27,000 unattended wells put our shores at risk. You don't treat your worst enemies how we treat our environment sometimes.

Shep Smith, Fox News

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/07/national/main6653016.shtml
 
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Hammer said:
Dems to try to limit superdelegate influence on 2012 presidential nomination

Okay, is this issue really going to be a problem in 2 years? I can see it being an issue in 2016 and going forward from there. The unthinkable is obviously exempted here, but if anyone other than Barack Obama is on the top of the Democratic ticket, they've got bigger issues inside that party than superdelegates.
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They have enough issues and there are a few latent landmines floating around that could burn Obama and bring on a primary challenge... most likely by Hillary Clinton.

In either case if it is a problem (as it was in 2008) then why not solve it. In general I think many of the people will look on that and realize you have to work in those trenches as well. I'm going to guess that the powers that be would rather not have to deal with that mess upon themselves.
 
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It's an embarrassment waiting to happen. IIRC the GOP as a much more transparent and small d "democratic" system with less superdelegate impact.
 
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Kepler said:
It's an embarrassment waiting to happen. IIRC the GOP as a much more transparent and small d "democratic" system with less superdelegate impact.
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the republicans have recently moved around their calendar as well... very specifically making all primaries before a certain date (April or May) proportional splits as opposed to all or nothings to avoid the quick/early pick of a lousy candidate (McCain). Though, that has much to do with an open primary system as anything else. Dems have been for "Operation Chaos" until it turned back on them.
 
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