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Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
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Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
So that's why sales of Viagra skyrocketed...
So I take it you don't want to hear my theory that Scalia are Ginsburg are more than just friends as well?
So that's why sales of Viagra skyrocketed...
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
I haven't heard any from them but I've heard repubs whining about it in regards to them. Not me, kick them both to the curb
I haven't heard any from them but I've heard repubs whining about it in regards to them. Not me, kick them both to the curb
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
Didn't the Enquirer break that story?
So I take it you don't want to hear my theory that Scalia are Ginsburg are more than just friends as well?
Didn't the Enquirer break that story?
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
Yet they all use the same level of absurdity.
That's funny cause the right doesn't see it that way. They always forget that Stewart and Maher are comedians and Coulter, Malkin, Beck, O'Reilly, Rush, are not.
Yet they all use the same level of absurdity.
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
I don't know. I think they are pretty amusing. Almost as amusing as their supplicants.
I don't know. I think they are pretty amusing. Almost as amusing as their supplicants.
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
<s>Liebowitz</s> Stewart is a little different. 90% of his show is junk food with a lefty slant. But it's good junk food with a lefty slant. Like Ben & Jerry's cookie dough.
But there is a serious undercurrent to the show. Sometimes it's far from the surface, but sometimes it gets close. To get back to the earlier point, Stewart rejects pomo politics. He throws a lot of jabs at righties, and occasionally a couple at lefties, but he directs his most scathing stuff at those who believe that news reporting is best done by faithfully repeating liberal and conservative talking points, and "leaving it at that," as if that's all there is to journalism. As if some arguments aren't better than others, or that some claims aren't demonstrably false. As if empirical scrutiny can't get us anywhere, anyhow, because truth must always be problematized or (at least) treated ironically.
There's an actual, serious idea behind it.
<s>Liebowitz</s> Stewart is a little different. 90% of his show is junk food with a lefty slant. But it's good junk food with a lefty slant. Like Ben & Jerry's cookie dough.
But there is a serious undercurrent to the show. Sometimes it's far from the surface, but sometimes it gets close. To get back to the earlier point, Stewart rejects pomo politics. He throws a lot of jabs at righties, and occasionally a couple at lefties, but he directs his most scathing stuff at those who believe that news reporting is best done by faithfully repeating liberal and conservative talking points, and "leaving it at that," as if that's all there is to journalism. As if some arguments aren't better than others, or that some claims aren't demonstrably false. As if empirical scrutiny can't get us anywhere, anyhow, because truth must always be problematized or (at least) treated ironically.
There's an actual, serious idea behind it.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
He did a bit either on TDS or in his stand-up years ago that was devastating, where he has a 24 hour cable network providing "balanced" coverage of the Holocaust. You're right that below Stewart's comedy is an indictment of the false equivalency of "impartial" media. If pressed he'd probably say he respects Fox in that they are a relentless axe-wielding partisan (although obviously they lose that respect right back because they hide behind the empty label of "balance" -- well, that and in even their typical "news" broadcasts they employ every logical fallacy as well as outright lying and fakery).
He did a bit either on TDS or in his stand-up years ago that was devastating, where he has a 24 hour cable network providing "balanced" coverage of the Holocaust. You're right that below Stewart's comedy is an indictment of the false equivalency of "impartial" media. If pressed he'd probably say he respects Fox in that they are a relentless axe-wielding partisan (although obviously they lose that respect right back because they hide behind the empty label of "balance" -- well, that and in even their typical "news" broadcasts they employ every logical fallacy as well as outright lying and fakery).
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
I can't argue with you on that, but since Kep gave such goond reasons why I'll stop there.
I can't argue with you on that, but since Kep gave such goond reasons why I'll stop there.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Neither side is innocent of equally abusive rhetoric, and no one gets more play or a bigger audience than Rush and his ilk. Doesn't make Olbermann any less of a creep, especially when it comes to your first quote.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
I used to tell my female roommates that all the time. It wasn't well-received.
I dunno guys, but I think this country's been going to hell in a hand basket ever since the skirts got the vote.
I used to tell my female roommates that all the time. It wasn't well-received.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Foxton
Banned
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
I dunno guys, but I think this country's been going to hell in a hand basket ever since the skirts got the vote.
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
They're ripping on Bush for not creating millions of jobs during a period when the unemployment rate was ~5%. What about that makes sense? That's like pointing out that Calista Flockhart can't win The Biggest Loser. And they're cherrypicking what is likely to be Obama's best year and comparing that to an 8 year period.
Using the same statistic they did, from August 2003 to May 2008, jobs went from 129.8M to 137.7M, which is an an annual rate of more than 2M per year. Let's see Obama replicate that feat over a 4.5 year period. Actually, let's not, because all those jobs that Bush "created" from 2003 to 2008 were NOT a good thing - they were merely a symptom of the mortgage bubble that finally burst with a vengeance in 2009. Those jobs were never real in the first place. If Obama "creates" 8M jobs in the next 4 years, it will be the same story - they won't be the result of healthy growth of the economy but some artificial inflation. There should not BE 138M jobs in the US right now - the economy will not sustain that level.
In any case, I'm still firmly in the "Presidents deserve almost no credit or blame for the economy" camp. The jobs increase from 2003-2008 were not because of Bush's policies, just as the jobs that will be created from 2010-2012 will not be due to Obama's, but will be due to the financial industry getting itself back into shape so that it can begin lending again and businesses can access the capital they need to expand.
Fair? Are you kidding?
They're ripping on Bush for not creating millions of jobs during a period when the unemployment rate was ~5%. What about that makes sense? That's like pointing out that Calista Flockhart can't win The Biggest Loser. And they're cherrypicking what is likely to be Obama's best year and comparing that to an 8 year period.
Using the same statistic they did, from August 2003 to May 2008, jobs went from 129.8M to 137.7M, which is an an annual rate of more than 2M per year. Let's see Obama replicate that feat over a 4.5 year period. Actually, let's not, because all those jobs that Bush "created" from 2003 to 2008 were NOT a good thing - they were merely a symptom of the mortgage bubble that finally burst with a vengeance in 2009. Those jobs were never real in the first place. If Obama "creates" 8M jobs in the next 4 years, it will be the same story - they won't be the result of healthy growth of the economy but some artificial inflation. There should not BE 138M jobs in the US right now - the economy will not sustain that level.
In any case, I'm still firmly in the "Presidents deserve almost no credit or blame for the economy" camp. The jobs increase from 2003-2008 were not because of Bush's policies, just as the jobs that will be created from 2010-2012 will not be due to Obama's, but will be due to the financial industry getting itself back into shape so that it can begin lending again and businesses can access the capital they need to expand.
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So let me get this straight...you are saying that we can't just take snippets of data and construct theories and arguments from them to support our political agendas? Well, we can, but we'll just be propaganda pushing sycophants...??
*** great, now it will take 6 months to get to 1,000 posts on one of these threads.
Oh yeah, you are wrong about one thing...we've recently created thousands of jobs putting in curbing, islands and guardrails...these are clearly high skill, long-term jobs that will aid us in our mission to control the global market on road improvements.
So let me get this straight...you are saying that we can't just take snippets of data and construct theories and arguments from them to support our political agendas? Well, we can, but we'll just be propaganda pushing sycophants...??
*** great, now it will take 6 months to get to 1,000 posts on one of these threads.
Oh yeah, you are wrong about one thing...we've recently created thousands of jobs putting in curbing, islands and guardrails...these are clearly high skill, long-term jobs that will aid us in our mission to control the global market on road improvements.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
Now now... each potted plant is a well earned green job which will make us more efficient and will lead to long term economy growth.... huh? no?! Well, at least its green... green is pretty.
I wonder what happens when all that temporary labor goes back to "unemployed" in 2 months?
Now now... each potted plant is a well earned green job which will make us more efficient and will lead to long term economy growth.... huh? no?! Well, at least its green... green is pretty.
Red Cloud said:
I wonder what happens when all that temporary labor goes back to "unemployed" in 2 months?
Re: Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper
Awwww...poor little knucks' getting nervous that the economy is picking up? You know, your efforts to talk down the economy won't work. Think about it, if you guys really had any influence, wouldn't we be evaluating President Palin's time in office right now?
PS - The article was fair and balanced as it did point out the very things that Lynah went into a tirade about. Methinks he didn't read after the 1st paragraph.
Awwww...poor little knucks' getting nervous that the economy is picking up? You know, your efforts to talk down the economy won't work. Think about it, if you guys really had any influence, wouldn't we be evaluating President Palin's time in office right now?
PS - The article was fair and balanced as it did point out the very things that Lynah went into a tirade about. Methinks he didn't read after the 1st paragraph.
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