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Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

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Is any politician? (Or any normal person for that matter?)

David Vitter. Oh wait.
Larry Craig. ****!
Mark Sanford! He's a devout Catholic, right?
 
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Patman, tell us some of the ideas she holds.

Ought to be interesting.
 
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I mean, look at the shift caused by the "death panel" stuff. The liberals are still angry with that because it resonated. They are taking their anger out on the messengers because they believe their ideas as so absolute that they need not be argued. .

And of course, has absolutely nothing at all whatsoever to do with the fact that IT'S ALL 100% BULLSHIIT.
 
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Read all the articles...they point out that the government is still going to charge students 6.8% on the loans (it is ok for the government to profit off of students) and that private loans through lenders have higher rates because they aren't subsidized....but when they sold the plan to us they said the private lenders were making billions off subsidies, how can that be true if they are passing them on in the form of lower rates?...somebody isn't telling the whole story on that either.

Yes, this is much better than the current system where most of the profit goes to the lenders and gov (taxpayer) takes all the risk. Our federal gov needs to maximize profits if they can instead of trying to break even on several difference services.

How do you explain the $680,000 (1.2m) student loan. Where the lender never verified her income of $1.7m/yr or her husbands $24,000/month salary or bothered to check if she went to the graduate school or why she needed to borrow this puny sum with her income. These lenders don't care.

It's the subprime all over again since the lender has no risk. If the person defaults, it's paid by the government and I believe the collection agency can keep 50-80% of money collected after it's been written off by the company. That's why these guys will hassle you day/night and lie to you at every turn to collect from you. And they will go after your family even if you're dead.

In 2000? these same bankers/lenders were complaining about these GSE having unfair advantage due to lower borrowing costs due to the implied guarantee of the federal government.
And yes the explicit government guarantee means the loan rates should be lower than it would be other wise. It's a stupid point though ... look at fannie/freddie which is the same model and how that worked out for us taxpayers.
 
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What are the traditional values? Lying? Bashing something (Canadian healthcare) then admitting she defrauded the Canadian government by crossing the border to take advantage of said healthcare?

I don't know what it is with Palin. I don't know why conservatives like her, I don't know why anyone would hate her. I don't know why anyone even cares about what she has to say!

Me too. but then again I don't know why so many people watch the talking heads on Fox/CNN/CNBC etc...

At least get some PBS and CSPAN and learn something :D
 
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Where is straight marriage guaranteed by the constitution? :rolleyes:

And do you really think civil rights should be decided by a simple majority like what happened in California? With the main support for those supporting proposition 8 coming from people who were using their religion to decide the civil rights of others.

**** those founding fathers and their first amendment! And the original clause in the constitution about no religious test being required for office! How dare people respect the constitution!

I don't care about Pelosi, who is a catholic, and if you want god in politics, why are you complaining when someone does it? You just gave a reason not to have it play any part.

And no "liberal" woman would ever think to have a baby with any kind of defect. There isn't a rolls eyes smilie big enough for you, you disgusting piece of slime. :rolleyes:

Palin has also toted her son out and used him as a political tool several times. Even insulted someone with Down syndrome in the process.

I love the quote from her on that.

"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm."

In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes."

The average American isn't a farmer or living out in the country.

They went after her with venom because she's an inept sycophant. Seeing Russia from Alaska counts as foreign policy experience to her. (Even though she's never personally done it)

Science directly allows 1/3rd of the Earths population to live with the haber process. Try to imagine 2.2 billion people dying of starvation by removing this one process. It allows you to use that computer you're typing on, it eradicated smallpox, one of the greatest killers in human history, every part of your daily life is dominated by things created and understood because of science, could you please tell me what does god do for you? If you want god to make your decisions, perhaps you should move to a theocracy.

Marriage is not a Constitutional Right, hetero or homosexual. However, the norm is hetero not homo. That is tradition. Can the Liberals really force everyone to accept everyone and everything? Where does it stop?! Why can't Billy Bob put down his gun and religion to marry his first cousin Betty Sue?

Yes, such "controversial" and non-traditional concepts should be put to vote... the results you'd probably not like. I thank God that Maine and California put it to vote, as the people spoke loud and clear. That is something the gay left is not accustomed to hearing.

President Obama in one of his many Joe Biden moments when off his umbilical teleprompter, "Yeah, I bowled like I was on the Special Olympics team." Classy Mr. President, from the guy who touted he was not going to be like the last president.

I am not complaining that Pelosi evoked St. Joe (I am glad, though I think she was insincere - she wanted votes); I am saying it is a gross double-standard. The Liberals grouse about the right's use of religion, yet the Liberals recently used religion when they needed to convince their own party to vote in their favor! Even with a majority the Dems could not pass HCB. Seems to me Obama/Pelosi are not that effective in persuading their own party, only after huge edits, ahem, read they are not funding abortions. Liberals love to help terrorists (see the current Attorney General), and kill babies - right?

I think Obama used his rug rats to his benefit too on the campaign trail. Hell, Gov. Deval Patrick kissed a white baby! Isn't that a crime?!

Palin is in the typical Liberal's head, she wins you lose. Even though your guy won, Palin has such a great impact in popular-culture and politics that you guys cannot ignore her as a threat (see that other guy's post below).

Your family. Yeesh, I never met them, but I bet they are a barrel of laughs at the expense of the little people, handicapped persons, mentally ill people, those idiots in the military (thanks Sen. John Kerry) and anyone unlike themselves.

So tell me, oh omniscient one, what is and who is the average American? Because by populous,polls, and numbers (who sadly did not vote but seem angry enough they are organizing now) it ain't the liberal jet-set!

Palin had as much and as little experience as community organizer and ACORN attorney Barrack Hussein Obama.

Malthus... read it. Apply it to 21st century = not everyone can eat, read, write or have a college education. People will die from disease, drugs, or crime; life - make something of it and do not perpetuate stereotypical images. Do not be scared to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, and let's get people off of the government entitlements.

Oh Foxton, we agree to disagree, I've kept it civil, until you decided to call me slime because you cannot see any other viewpoint except your own. People like you are dangerous, and there is no big grin emoticon big enough to put here. :D

I wish you had some faith (even if it was Muslim!), but you seem as though you are terribly angry. Happy Easter, I will pray to God for your soul, and also that He'll level the playing field for the Republicans.
 
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So let me get this straight the Constitution is important in the Gay Marriage fight because it doesn't guarantee gay marriage but it isnt important in the separation of church and state because it actually bans any sort of linkage.

This is why politicians suck...

Notice, I said politicians not conservatives, both sides play this lame *** chess game.

edit: the great thing about this country is everyone gets a vote despite what eaglehockeyrules seems to think.
 
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So let me get this straight the Constitution is important in the Gay Marriage fight because it doesn't guarantee gay marriage but it isnt important in the separation of church and state because it actually bans any sort of linkage.

This is why politicians suck...

Notice, I said politicians not conservatives, both sides play this lame *** chess game.

edit: the great thing about this country is everyone gets a vote despite what eaglehockeyrules seems to think.

Well we're now a great country. Back when the Founding Fathers founded this country it wasn't so great if you base it on who got to vote. :D
 
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Well we're now a great country. Back when the Founding Fathers founded this country it wasn't so great if you base it on who got to vote. :D

You got a problem with rich, white protestant landowners with an X and Y chromosome? :p
 
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You got a problem with rich, white protestant landowners with an X and Y chromosome? :p

Well you didn't necessarily need to be rich right? I thought you just needed to own land (even though most people who owned land *were* rich, not all of them were.)
 
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Where is straight marriage guaranteed by the constitution? :rolleyes:

And do you really think civil rights should be decided by a simple majority like what happened in California? With the main support for those supporting proposition 8 coming from people who were using their religion to decide the civil rights of others.

**** those founding fathers and their first amendment! And the original clause in the constitution about no religious test being required for office! How dare people respect the constitution!

I don't care about Pelosi, who is a catholic, and if you want god in politics, why are you complaining when someone does it? You just gave a reason not to have it play any part.

And no "liberal" woman would ever think to have a baby with any kind of defect. There isn't a rolls eyes smilie big enough for you, you disgusting piece of slime. :rolleyes:

Palin has also toted her son out and used him as a political tool several times. Even insulted someone with Down syndrome in the process.

I love the quote from her on that.

"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm."

In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes."

The average American isn't a farmer or living out in the country.

They went after her with venom because she's an inept sycophant. Seeing Russia from Alaska counts as foreign policy experience to her. (Even though she's never personally done it)

Clips begin at 8 seconds, and this is just for the campaign.
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Science directly allows 1/3rd of the Earths population to live with the haber process. Try to imagine 2.2 billion people dying of starvation by removing this one process. It allows you to use that computer you're typing on, it eradicated smallpox, one of the greatest killers in human history, every part of your daily life is dominated by things created and understood because of science, could you please tell me what does god do for you? If you want god to make your decisions, perhaps you should move to a theocracy.

Marriage is not a civil right, you've proved my point.

You are a piece of disgusting Liberal fecal matter, and it makes me sad that people like you are allowed to vote.

Yes, such "controversial" and non-traditional concepts should be put to vote... the results you'd probably not like. I thank God that Maine and California put it to vote, as the people spoke loud and clear. That is something the gay left is not accustomed to hearing.

I am not complaining that Pelosi evoked St. Joe... I am saying it is a gross double-standard. Where was the holiday Nativity Scene in San Fran (or Seattle for that matter)? Oh, it was replaced by Jesus in a bottle of urine, or a Kwanza Candle Thingy... nice.

Palin is in the typical Liberal's head, she wins you lose.

Your family... I never met them, but I bet they are a barrel of laughs at the expense of the little people.

So tell me, oh omniscient one, what is and who is the average American?

Palin had as much and as little experience as community organizer and ACORN attorney Barrack Hussein Obama.

We agree to disagree, I've kept it civil, until you decided to call me slime because you cannot see any other viewpoint except yours. People like you are dangerous, and there is no big grin emoticon big enough to put here. :D
 
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Oh Foxton, we agree to disagree, I've kept it civil, until you decided to call me slime because you cannot see any other viewpoint except your own. People like you are dangerous, and there is no big grin emoticon big enough to put here. :D
Do you want to know what the difference was? You implied that all liberal women would be so shallow as to abort a baby if it had a defect, and only a conservative one would ever think to keep it. With your insult, it was because you had no actual counter. Congratulations, you're a slimy piece ****.

I wish you had some faith (even if it was Muslim!), but you seem as though you are terribly angry. Happy Easter, I will pray to God for your soul, and also that He'll level the playing field for the Republicans.
Good job not answering my question about what god does that puts him above what's been done by science.

As for your prayer.
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Do you want to know what the difference was? You implied that all liberal women would be so shallow as to abort a baby if it had a defect, and only a conservative one would ever think to keep it. With your insult, it was because you had no actual counter. Congratulations, you're a slimy piece ****.


Good job not answering my question about what god does that puts him above what's been done by science.

As for your prayer.
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Actually, Planned Parenthood was started by Liberals to abort minority babies, specifically African-American babies. Do a little research, you might be surprised at what your party created and condones.

But this why people like you will, rightfully so, end up in Hell. You trivialize all faith via hip and kitsch cartoons because you do not believe, yet when other people do not believe in your issues - say gay marriage it is a different story. I see the logic, sort of. I hope you put that cartoon on a t-shirt, you might turn a dollar - oh wait that would be capitalism and that is very bad.

Your second line is a philosophical one that men and women at divinity schools around the world struggle with; I believe both can and do exist together very nicely. I run a research lab, and I am a practicing Episcopalian; both work seemingly well in my successful work and religious life. Your grand question cannot be answered here, by me or you, but you can always bring up Creationism/Darwinism and the Kangaroo Courts of Kentucky and Tennessee, ala 1927 CE (I use CE common era as not to offend the Godless) which I am sure is in your bag of tricks.

I always loved the Science v. God issue, and I work in science at Pfizer! I guess God did nothing for you, and it shows by your intolerance and ignorance. LOL, and I thought Liberals were so accepting and cared about everyone?!?! I guess only when it is in alignment with their [gay] agenda!
 
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... and this why people like you will, rightfully so, end up in Hell.

I love the Science v. God issue, and I work in science at Pfizer. I guess God did nothing for you, and it shows by your intolerance and ignorance. LOL, and I thought Liberals were so accepting of everyone?!?! I guess only when it is in alignment with their [gay] agenda!
I guess it would be too much to have you actually the question. Instead I get told that I'll end up in eternal torment, for not believing in your invisible sky man over other invisible sky men and women. Fear is such a good reason to believe in something, I'm sure your all knowing deity doesn't see through your childish ruse to get presents from Santa Claus.

GASP! Misspell Santa in a certain way and you get... Satan! (Say it like the church lady)
 
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... and this why people like you will, rightfully so, end up in Hell.

I love the Science v. God issue, and I work in science at Pfizer. I guess God did nothing for you, and it shows by your intolerance and ignorance. LOL, and I thought Liberals were so accepting of everyone?!?! I guess only when it is in alignment with their [gay] agenda!

Hey buddy, unless you're actually repenting for your sins you're going too.

:D

A person without God but is good for goodness sake...don't you find that person to be a better human being than someone with God who is good for a REWARD in heaven?

Person A is truly selfless because is good for no reason besides to be good. He holds himself accountable. Why is Person B good, just because he believes in God? Come on.
 
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I guess it would be too much to have you actually the question. Instead I get told that I'll end up in eternal torment, for not believing in your invisible sky man over other invisible sky men and women. Fear is such a good reason to believe in something, I'm sure your all knowing deity doesn't see through your childish ruse to get presents from Santa Claus.

GASP! Misspell Santa in a certain way and you get... Satan! (Say it like the church lady)

You are so hip, but you forgot to mention the FSM.
 
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So let me get this straight the Constitution is important in the Gay Marriage fight because it doesn't guarantee gay marriage but it isnt important in the separation of church and state because it actually bans any sort of linkage.

This is why politicians suck...

Notice, I said politicians not conservatives, both sides play this lame *** chess game.

edit: the great thing about this country is everyone gets a vote despite what eaglehockeyrules seems to think.

Could you point out where the Constitution bans the separation of church and state? Is it next to the "good and welfare" clause?
 
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