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Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

For those attending the Maroon and Gold game tonight, please share your observations.
 
For those attending the Maroon and Gold game tonight, please share your observations.

I went for the first session. Probably 150-200 people in stands.

Piacentini with 2 goals for white team and Pelletier with 1.

Baldillez with a goal for Maroon. Reichenbach was maroon goalie and Ostepchuk white.

I watched from the bench for the first time rather than my usual stats perch.

Couple of the freshmen are BIG. Robertson, Hull and Harbor all 6-2ish.

Don't know if the team is quite as fast as they normally have been recently but that might be due to the short shifting with only two forward lines for each side basically.

Pelletier/Niezgoda/Surowiec looks like the top line early.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Saw the Maroon and Gold team practice last Friday. Couldn't tell much about the D but the first year players from the SJHL and MJHL all looked very skilled as you would expect from the Western Canada Junior A leagues. I not sure about team speed but some of the newcomers sure look fast. It will be interesting how coach mixes and matches them into the lineup. It won't take long to find out since and excellent Nichols team will play Norwich Friday.

Any news Prez concerning St. A's moving to D3 and are there any teams out there to replace UNE.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Prez, (I know you're getting slammed with questions), but has there been any efforts by the team to engage with the student body this year? I remember last year that you said the team was making efforts and attempts to engage more with the student body and introduce themselves, and I think that will go a long ways towards getting the Corps excited for the varsity games, whereas it's easy for them to get excited for club games where they know the players better and can be more, er, rowdy. I mentioned before how athletes can get a bad rap in the Corps and that poor Corps leadership can be downright hostile towards athletics. So if cadets (small c) can put names with faces on the team then perhaps they can get more excited for the varsity.
 
Prez, (I know you're getting slammed with questions), but has there been any efforts by the team to engage with the student body this year? I remember last year that you said the team was making efforts and attempts to engage more with the student body and introduce themselves, and I think that will go a long ways towards getting the Corps excited for the varsity games, whereas it's easy for them to get excited for club games where they know the players better and can be more, er, rowdy. I mentioned before how athletes can get a bad rap in the Corps and that poor Corps leadership can be downright hostile towards athletics. So if cadets (small c) can put names with faces on the team then perhaps they can get more excited for the varsity.

Haven't seen anything as outgoing as last year yet but it helps having Salvucci and Niezgoda in the Corps for sure. Also, the women's team has a player in the Corps this year for the first time since Parsons and Kadel.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

I believe my Godson ('16) and his future bride (also '16) go to the games when duty permits.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

I forgot that there are two cadets on the team now. Yes, that should help the image of the team in the Corps quite a bit. Not that the team ever had a "bad" image before, per se, but rather that it lacked any image at all.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

I forgot that there are two cadets on the team now. Yes, that should help the image of the team in the Corps quite a bit. Not that the team ever had a "bad" image before, per se, but rather that it lacked any image at all.

When I was there, it was always the case that the corps would rally behind players who were in the Corps. Before the Krietzberg era, most of the team was Corps, but after there were usually two or three and they would get big cheers when they would make a big hit. Of course there were also a couple goalies who were in the Corps as well (Eusko and Klinger) which was really good to keep the Corps interested.

Once civilians came to campus, it seems that some sports have been more populated with Corps students than others.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Prez

Are the player profiles updated? Just looked at Niezgoda's and it's missing a whole bunch of stuff.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

When I was there, it was always the case that the corps would rally behind players who were in the Corps. Before the Krietzberg era, most of the team was Corps, but after there were usually two or three and they would get big cheers when they would make a big hit. Of course there were also a couple goalies who were in the Corps as well (Eusko and Klinger) which was really good to keep the Corps interested.

Once civilians came to campus, it seems that some sports have been more populated with Corps students than others.

It's certainly a phenomena unique to Norwich. Anecdotally speaking from my time there, rugby, lacrosse, and wrestling were mostly Corps-dominated sports, football and baseball were about 50-50, and hockey, soccer, and basketball were almost entirely civilian. But then the Corps teams were even further divided between "good cadet" teams and "bad cadet" teams. For example, when I played baseball, we had an atrocious record but we were respected in the Corps because we had a reputation of being good cadets. The wrestling team had more success on the mat, but they had a reputation for being poor cadets and so they weren't really respected by their peers.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

It's certainly a phenomena unique to Norwich. Anecdotally speaking from my time there, rugby, lacrosse, and wrestling were mostly Corps-dominated sports, football and baseball were about 50-50, and hockey, soccer, and basketball were almost entirely civilian. But then the Corps teams were even further divided between "good cadet" teams and "bad cadet" teams. For example, when I played baseball, we had an atrocious record but we were respected in the Corps because we had a reputation of being good cadets. The wrestling team had more success on the mat, but they had a reputation for being poor cadets and so they weren't really respected by their peers.

Before you got there, the rugby team and lacrosse teams had some very serious incidents - both involving alcohol (surprise!) that got seasons ended. I always found the corps somewhat a puzzle to figure out. A lot seemed to depend on who was commandant and who was the Cadet Colonel, too.
 
Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Absolutely. Corps leadership has a HUGE impact on Corps-athlete relationships and support. That's why I'm a huge proponent of having athletes in Corps leadership positions. It's a mutual relationship. If the athletes support the Corps then the Corps support the athletes and vice versa. And then each new class that is introduced to that positive relationship builds momentum in a snowball effect that overall increases school spirit and the college atmosphere. But all it takes is one class of leadership to screw it up. And of that I am unfortunately keenly aware.

Coaching also plays a huge roll. In my time there I saw the reputation of the football team improve remarkably because coaches would do tasks like kick Rooks out of the locker room who were trying to dodge their responsibilities. On the other hand, there were coaches of other teams that would blatantly disrespect Corps officers when they tried to enforce something simple like dining hall regulations.

I understand the Corps being "a puzzle to figure out" because it's definitely its own world with countless unwritten codes. But through it all, the bonds that we made, the lessons that we learned, and the traditions that we carried make most of us forever loyal and dedicated to the place, and others forever bitter.
 
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Re: Norwich 2015-16 - 17 straight ECAC East titles and counting....

Absolutely. Corps leadership has a HUGE impact on Corps-athlete relationships and support. That's why I'm a huge proponent of having athletes in Corps leadership positions. It's a mutual relationship. If the athletes support the Corps then the Corps support the athletes and vice versa. And then each new class that is introduced to that positive relationship builds momentum in a snowball effect that overall increases school spirit and the college atmosphere. But all it takes is one class of leadership to screw it up. And of that I am unfortunately keenly aware.

Coaching also plays a huge roll. In my time there I saw the reputation of the football team improve remarkably because coaches would do tasks like kick Rooks out of the locker room who were trying to dodge their responsibilities. On the other hand, there were coaches of other teams that would blatantly disrespect Corps officers when they tried to enforce something simple like dining hall regulations.

I understand the Corps being "a puzzle to figure out" because it's definitely its own world with countless unwritten codes. But through it all, the bonds that we made, the lessons that we learned, and the traditions that we carried make most of us forever loyal and dedicated to the place, and others forever bitter.

As an emeritus faculty member, I still have an emotional investment in the place and I think the thing that saddens me is the latter. There's lots of good, but sometimes a bit too much destructive groupthink going on, especially with the "unwritten" rules.

Meanwhile, let's hope for another successful season and winning the final ECAC East Reg Season Championship and Playoffs - although I assume the old records will be incorporated into the new structure.
 
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