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Norwich 14-15

I'm not sure which has surprised me more this year - that Jamie Murray turned out to be mortal after all, or that the Cadets have not one, but two excellent goaltenders, both early in their college career.

More surprising that Murray isn't actually a machine...although I'll reserve my final judgment until about 9:00 Saturday night. He seems to ALWAYS rise to the occasion in big games at Kreitzberg. I feel very good about our chances, but that kid should make all of us nervous.
 
Prez, PuckVoice, et al.,

Any word on ticket availability for Saturday's game? I'll be making the drive north but certainly don't want to get turned away at the door. Sitting at The Rustic with a set of headphones on isn't a good look on a Saturday night.

Looking forward to another match-up, albeit hopefully less nail-biting than the Beaver's last trip to Kreitzberg.

I believe students leave for spring break on Friday ... should free up tix for the game Saturday night.
 
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Being primarily a military school, Norwich has some major enrollment considerations that most schools don't deal with. For example, I enrolled in Norwich in 2009, which was shortly after the surge in Iraq and just before Obama announced a similar surge in Afghanistan. As a result, the DOD was passing out ROTC scholarships like candy. I believe my class had over 120 scholarship awardees in the Army department alone. By the time I graduated in 2013, after we had withdrawn from Iraq and at the beginning of the drawdown in Afghanistan, the number of scholarship winners in the freshman class had dropped to around 30 across all the branches.

This forces the school to have a lot of flexibility. Many of my classmates are some of the most impressive people I have ever met in my life. There were also those that had no business being there. But, when you have 120+ new students whose tuition payment is guaranteed in full by Uncle Sam, there are bound to be a few that fall through the cracks. There's still great interest from people wanting to join the Corps, which numbers close to 1500 now, but historically speaking the civilian component serves as sort of a safety against times when military service isn't as desired (enrollment dropped to 9, that is nine, after the Civil War for example. The post-Vietnam era certainly didn't make a military school, especially one in Vermont of all places, attractive to many people). I'm not saying that's its only merit, but it's certainly a factor. So as the military continues to make cuts, will we see an increase in competitiveness in Corps applications that require financial aid? Will preference be given to those who don't require as much aid? Will the school emphasize its traditional component more?

My apologies for the history lesson, but I've always found my beloved alma mater's unique history and role fascinating (well, except for when I was a rook and hated the place). Surely someone can tie this back into hockey.

Good summary. Norwich has always had ups and downs in enrollment on the Corps side based on prevailing attitudes in society towards the military. The academic experience at Norwich is excellent. There are always a few knuckleheads, but there is a real core of committed students on both sides of campus. It really took a long time for there to be an equilibrium reached when there was respect between the two camps - in the early days of the single campus (after the Civilian population moved from Montpelier to Northfield) there were some rough times. I have a lot of respect for the gains in academics at Norwich from my early days at NU, when classes did seem to be filled out by some survivors of the "mirror test." The top of the class has always been good, and there have always been lots of hard workers who were given a chance to succeed and did, but in my early years at Norwich, there was a much larger group of students who did not belong anywhere than there was when I left.
 
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Good summary. Norwich has always had ups and downs in enrollment on the Corps side based on prevailing attitudes in society towards the military. The academic experience at Norwich is excellent. There are always a few knuckleheads, but there is a real core of committed students on both sides of campus. It really took a long time for there to be an equilibrium reached when there was respect between the two camps - in the early days of the single campus (after the Civilian population moved from Montpelier to Northfield) there were some rough times. I have a lot of respect for the gains in academics at Norwich from my early days at NU, when classes did seem to be filled out by some survivors of the "mirror test." The top of the class has always been good, and there have always been lots of hard workers who were given a chance to succeed and did, but in my early years at Norwich, there was a much larger group of students who did not belong anywhere than there was when I left.

The problem today is that a lot of the narrative of what the Corps and the school should be is driven by those of the "mirror test" and the myths of the "Old Corps". I'm incredibly proud of my education and of the prominence that the school is gaining in academics. However, this progress often gets misconstrued into meaning that the school is going soft and abandoning its traditions. Most people that argue that have little to no understanding of the institution's history, or of general historical context and changes in society. But alas, as with most issues, it is the ignorant few that speak the loudest.
 
The problem today is that a lot of the narrative of what the Corps and the school should be is driven by those of the "mirror test" and the myths of the "Old Corps". I'm incredibly proud of my education and of the prominence that the school is gaining in academics. However, this progress often gets misconstrued into meaning that the school is going soft and abandoning its traditions. Most people that argue that have little to no understanding of the institution's history, or of general historical context and changes in society. But alas, as with most issues, it is the ignorant few that speak the loudest.

Interesting discussion gentlemen ... but uh ... does anyone have any thoughts on Babson?
 
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Interesting discussion gentlemen ... but uh ... does anyone have any thoughts on Babson?

Given the NCAA rankings, it is a must win game for both teams. The Pool C bids probably won't get down to the loser of this one baring a win by Oswego over Plattsburgh, which is not something to count on. Even though I think this is a much better NU team than in the last few years, there is no wiggle room in terms of NCAA chances.

Babson coming to NU for a playoff game is always a scary proposition. Babo seem to alway have a really good goalie who can stand on his head against NU in the playoffs. The best scenario is for the Cadets to get up early (and keep the foot on the gas, after they do). Neither team has a margin for error so you can expect Babson to come with their best. I think the Cadets should win this one, but beating Andrews early is going to be the key.
 
Given the NCAA rankings, it is a must win game for both teams. The Pool C bids probably won't get down to the loser of this one baring a win by Oswego over Plattsburgh, which is not something to count on. Even though I think this is a much better NU team than in the last few years, there is no wiggle room in terms of NCAA chances.

Babson coming to NU for a playoff game is always a scary proposition. Babo seem to alway have a really good goalie who can stand on his head against NU in the playoffs. The best scenario is for the Cadets to get up early (and keep the foot on the gas, after they do). Neither team has a margin for error so you can expect Babson to come with their best. I think the Cadets should win this one, but beating Andrews early is going to be the key.

Beating Murray early*

Andrews is the UMB goalie.
 
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No way they beat us on home ice for the championship three years in a row.

That was not said in a boastful tone, more of me reassuring myself in a "They can't possibly beat us three years in a row, right? …Right?"
 
No way they beat us on home ice for the championship three years in a row.

That was not said in a boastful tone, more of me reassuring myself in a "They can't possibly beat us three years in a row, right? …Right?"

That's what I keep thinking too.

That and only the seniors have won one of these titles. They've gotta be hungry to get one again.
 
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I actually think Babson will come into the game a little over-confident having nearly beat the Cadets in their last trip to Northfield and having beaten UMB last weekend. I think this NU team is extremely deep and unlike other teams who need to 'peak at the right time of the season', they have been running on all cylinders for a long time. While I respect Murray's prowess in goal, I think Reichenbach has played as well or better than Murray this season and the fact that he hasn't emerged as the go-to starter on the team is equally telling of how good Ostepchuk is.

I think this game will be close but Wick has too many tools to put the puck in the net. If they execute their system (hopefully before the last 5 seconds of the game) they skate away with a 2 goal win (incl. ENG).
 
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Gotta admit, I've been thinking about this one all week. Murray coming into Kreitzberg makes me have too many flashbacks of frustrating games. However, whereas the 6-1 win down there might be added incentive for Babson, I also think it helps the Cadets. They know Murray is beatable, and they know they are capable of putting 5 in on him. Not saying that is going to happen again, just saying it definitely helps in a players mindset. As said before, he is not a machine, and Norwich found ways of scoring and scoring often on him. Keep at it, Murray plays aggressive and really cuts angles off for shooters. I'm looking for the Cadets to hold on for that extra second then dish a pass off, tips and big screens in front of net, or just those plain snipes that we've seen a lot this year from a handful of players. Key is not to get frustrated and also focus on D as well because personally I would HATE to be down tomorrow at any point in the game. Babson really packs it in and its a frustrating game to watch and I'm sure play in when that's happening.

This team can do it! No question about it, they just gotta go out and execute! Go WICK!
 
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While I respect Murray's prowess in goal, I think Reichenbach has played as well or better than Murray this season and the fact that he hasn't emerged as the go-to starter on the team is equally telling of how good Ostepchuk is.

I think this game will be close but Wick has too many tools to put the puck in the net. If they execute their system (hopefully before the last 5 seconds of the game) they skate away with a 2 goal win (incl. ENG).

Yes and No Tuuk145. When I ran the numbers of the last ten games that Murray has played vs the same number of game for the two NU goalies--the fact is our two goalies have faced about 15 shots per game versus about 27 by Murray. I understand how aggressive he is....and how he cuts down the angle but most of all Murray just has had more to deal with--week in and week out. I am not sure how meaningful consistent play and more action contributes to game prep--- regardless of the quality of the shots. And frankly, I sense Murray more vividly recalls the five that got by him the last time these teams played only a few weeks back than the earlier OT lost. That might give him pause to think more than he should (I am wishing).

And yes, Babson has every reason to be pumped up from beating UMB last weekend. But on the flip side NU is not UMass Boston. We are certainly equal or better in every statistical category. And the Beavers most of all know it. I like NU as a "the complete package" as Tuuk145 puts it (they have all the tools)--solid goal tending, good defense and solid offensive that can be generated goals from any player in four lines. That is a tough combination--but who know Murray could get hot and do his magic. And lets not forget he is not the only arrow in the Babson quiver. Naturally, I am rooting for the Cadets in what has to be a great game. Go Cadets!!!:)
 
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I think the key to beating Norwich is to attack for 60 minutes. Norwich's game plan is based on puck possession and outshooting the opposition by a huge margin. Get 25 shot on Norwich's net and you stand a good chance of winning.
 
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I think the key to beating Norwich is to attack for 60 minutes. Norwich's game plan is based on puck possession and outshooting the opposition by a huge margin. Get 25 shot on Norwich's net and you stand a good chance of winning.
As I have watch McShane's teams over the years the things that seem to give them fits are strong multi-player forechecking, and anticipating their diagonal passing lanes up ice, forcing them to pass up the outsides of the ice.
Castleton did it quite well last week, and it has been successfully used by other opponents in the past.
 
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