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Northeastern Huskies 2010-2011 Season Thread

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Nice to hear that we skated well with a good team with the last goal being ENG. But not so nice to hear (again).. that Maine's go ahead (3-2) goal was as result of a interference call on Ferriero. He's a good skater..just needs to 'get there', then stick to the game. Still, as a fan, you prefer a performance such as this.. Alfond or Matthews. Maine is a very good team. Well, we took baby steps forward. Nice effort on the road.
 
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What the hell is going on? I came in to this year thinking this team would be good? I am ver disappointed, where the hell is Qualier? 1 asist in 9 games? Where is Tuckerman?
 
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What the hell is going on? I came in to this year thinking this team would be good? I am ver disappointed, where the hell is Qualier? 1 asist in 9 games? Where is Tuckerman?

Tuckerman's out for the season with an shoulder injury, Quailer hasn't returned to form yet, no idea why not
 
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Well, Friday night was a lot closer then Saturday. In my view, Maine could have scored a ton of goals if not for the fact that Rawlings stood on his head in the 3rd tonight. However, you did get to see a 5th gear of hockey we just won't have with this squad. Why, You ask? We are simply not talented enough. I don’t care what you say they played about as best a period of hockey in the 1st and 2nd tonight as they have all year and it's just not enough. We still had some stupid penalties that could have gone either way. However, the real story is this, This team now has one of the worst records through 10 games in the history of the school. 1 - 7 -2 although, if you consider 3 of the losses to Atlantic 10 teams, this is the worst start ever.

It is only surpassed by these memorable low water marks

1951-52, 1-9-0
1959-60, 2-8-0
1971-72, 1-9-0 Fern’s 1st year
1990-91, 1-8-1 Don McKinney with Sebastian LaPlante as Captain
2003-04, 0-8-2 Crowder backslide that cost his job 2 years later.
2005-06 1-8-1 Cronin’s inaugural season

Prediction: This season is for all intensive purposes is perhaps by all standards of hockey measure mostly over, if not for the fact that some other teams in Hockey East are also not playing too well I would say we are going to be a last place team but from what I have seen of both UMASS squads my prediction is a solid 8th. Also, if Cronin does not get deep into the HE tournament before his contract expires he will not be extended. He makes a lot of Franklins, likly more than any professor on campus and only is surpassed by perhaps the President, Provost and Sr. Administrative Deans.

As a result, it’s on him to fix this because these are truly all his picks, these are his guys, he has essentially built a team that cannot compete with metal of the league and that’s the only reason he was hired. I know we have lost some guys to professional hockey, but so has everyone else too. We have had some injuries, but so have other teams. The expectations are high and clearly they have not been met.

Regarding your comments on Quailer, perhaps the reconstructed knee is not as good as the original, that’s hockey. Sometimes an injury like that changes your style of play. I mean this should not come as surprise to any of you, if you had read the camp reports from Canadians summer league. He just was no longer the same player and that’s a quote! Just look at what happened to Mike Morris, sometimes you never recover 100%!
 
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I feel for the players.. i am of the opinion that we do have excellent skaters who have not found their rhythm collectively.. something critical to team success.

And who can bring them in sync for success? The buck stops with the Coach. From player discipline to special teams..its the coach's responsibility. Spotlight's on him now. Sincerely hope he finds a way. If not; Rossi.. your post re. his predicament/ possible outcome might gain additional support.
 
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The reality is that the best coach in the history of the program is still Fern Flaman.

2 NCAA tournaments, 1 Frozen Four, 4 bean pots and 1 ECAC crown and 1 Hockey East and 1 ECAC title including multiple seasons going deep in the ECAC and HE tournaments over his 19 years. I am told that when he started in 1971, there were only 8 full scholarships. By the time I arrived on the scene in the mid 1980’s he had pushed that number to 16. However, when I played we still had at least 2 shifts of some 3rd and 4th liners with no free rides. Yet night in and night out we competed, and we had a boat load of local talent up in the rafters too, heck we had a back up goalie form LA who never played much in terms of organized hockey before his arrival on campus. He was a walk on.

So from my perspective this unravling is quite unreal. The school was not as highly regarded academically when I attended for the fact that they were letting in 5,000 freshmen every year, yet only graduating 1800 per year. Freshmen were just a cash cow, and most of the hockey kids realized they were not going to the NHL and for the most part we didn’t. The school had overall enrollment of nearly 35,000 students including graduate, weekend and part timers. Now it’s really as good as BU and continues to climb. So, I don’t think we lose many players for that reason.

Fern was paid the same amount as an assistant professor perhaps 45k to 60k in 1988 at the end of his nearly 2 decade career. He got a lot out of undersized and overlooked kids from Boston’s neighborhoods too.

I am not sure what the issue is but the reality is the team is not very good. It should be far better for the talent we have recruited, yet they are so undisciplined. Tonight again, Ferriero, makes a dumb penalty crashing the Maine net. That kid doesn’t have ½ the talent and a quarter of the brain power of his brother Ben, and that’s why he’s not at Boston College. Don’t get me wrong, I loved to mix it up and subsequently play on the edge of the rules and committed my share of stupid penalties, just look at the records, but Fern would have benched me for a month if I played like Ferriero does. I played a bit dirty in college as a result of my small frame, when I got to the European leagues I was forced to clean it up. However, I had the ability to know the difference. I look at this kid and think he must be absolute moron.

Greg was legacies pick as head coach too as as his father and uncle were both great players on the teams of the late 1950's and 1960's. However, let's face it this is never a great idea. The issue I am told is that nobody else really wanted or applied for the job. I mean really, think about it, it's not really a very good job. You have to deal with the fact that you are literally in the same ring with not one but 2 other oversized hockey powerhouse Gorilla’s, right on Comm. Ave. who have used you as a door mat for nearly 80 years. So in case you are wondering not a fing soul with legitimate credentials applied for the job. Although let me be perfectly clear I am thinking all fingers must point to him and his staff directly if this team does not win 10 games, and if it does come to fruition it would truly be a travesty, an utter slap in the face to the talent they have recruited.
 
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Greg was legacies pick as head coach too as as his father and uncle were both great players on the teams of the late 1950's and 1960's. However, let's face it this is never a great idea. The issue I am told is that nobody else really wanted or applied for the job. I mean really, think about it, it's not really a very good job. You have to deal with the fact that you are literally in the same ring with not one but 2 other oversized hockey powerhouse Gorilla’s, right on Comm. Ave. who have used you as a door mat for nearly 80 years. So in case you are wondering not a fing soul with legitimate credentials applied for the job. Although let me be perfectly clear I am thinking all fingers must point to him and his staff directly if this team does not win 10 games, and if it does come to fruition it would truly be a travesty, an utter slap in the face to the talent they have recruited.

I would think a solid young assistant from a mid to low level CCHA or WCHA team, or even a good young head coach from the AHA (don't know any) would have interest in taking the job. Sure he's playing in the shadow of two powerhouse programs and legendary coaches within 10 minutes as you said, but he's still got Hockey East, the city of Boston, and pretty good facilities to sell.
 
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I would think a solid young assistant from a mid to low level CCHA or WCHA team, or even a good young head coach from the AHA (don't know any) would have interest in taking the job. Sure he's playing in the shadow of two powerhouse programs and legendary coaches within 10 minutes as you said, but he's still got Hockey East, the city of Boston, and pretty good facilities to sell.
You would think, however lots of the mid western guys don't see Boston or even perhaps Hockey East as a draw, they see it as a negative. I think they believe that CCHA or WCHA conf. is premier tot HE. I am not saying they are, and they also think that the location leads to distraction.

Being involved in European coaching I feel that perhaps many young coaches from the US that are not from New England might pick a place like North Dakota or similar off beat locations to coach over lots of other places. Why quality of Life, only game in town, cost to raise a family the list goes on. Bottom Line it's not like your a Notre Dame or Michigan looking for a new football coach and it’s not like many Pro coaches flip form college to pro and back again like they do in both football and basketball. Hockey without TV duckets and advertising revenue simply does not have that kind of clout or ability. You do it because you love it. If you look at college hockey in NE and subsequently HE you will see most of the entire staffs from DIV I to DIV generally have local roots.
 
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Geezus guys, lighten up a little. From what I saw last night Northeastern is one of the better teams I've seen this year. You'll be fine....in a little funk right now with a coupla guys injured but you're getting solid if not great goaltending and the kids worked hard. It'll come...be patient.
 
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Geezus guys, lighten up a little. From what I saw last night Northeastern is one of the better teams I've seen this year. You'll be fine....in a little funk right now with a coupla guys injured but you're getting solid if not great goaltending and the kids worked hard. It'll come...be patient.

I think the high expectations of our freshman class coupled with the assumption that the solid returning players would actually step up is contributing to our collective short fuse here. It's frustrating to watch a team that should be more offensively talented fail to score goals.
 
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I think the high expectations of our freshman class coupled with the assumption that the solid returning players would actually step up is contributing to our collective short fuse here. It's frustrating to watch a team that should be more offensively talented fail to score goals.

I know our local radio rags were impressed with some of the underclassmen...I only saw last night and wuz impressed. Takes a little time for freshmen forwards to find their groove. FWIW, Whitehead thinks NU will climb in the standings. I wudnt be surprised to see them end up in 5th or 6th when its all said and done. Now just go out and wreck havoc on BC, BU and UHN. ;)
 
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I hate to sound like a negitive nelly, so don't get me wrong I would of course luv to see them turn it around this season. I just want everyone to understand that you must see it clearly that that kind of thinking, that the middle of the pack in a mediocre year, rebuilding or not, is just the issue, 5th or 6th is no longer acceptable to the alumni community as a whole. As a past player and alumni chapter president, the issue is that nothing short of winning hockey east, several bean pot’s and eventual national championship are now the goal, although, just how realistic a goal that is remains to be seen. I do know that mediocrity will not be accepted. The $$ that the alumni are pumping into the program is significant now, partly due to Cronin. However, let me be clear, this is not just some run of the mill state school or degree factory. It is a top tier national university with an endowment fast approaching the top 50 in the entire United States, whose combined assets including value of its real estate make it one of the wealthiest schools in the nation. That’s not to say $$ buy’s championships, it clearly does not. However a concept for the success of the program has been drafted and it will be followed. The current coaching staff is well aware of the expectations. I am willing to wait and see what happens till the end of the current contracts in a few more years, but 5th place, I mean I hate to sound like Jerry Jones but 5th place will find you a spot on the unemployment line, not when you have alumni writing 100k checks.
 
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Rossi.. all your posts (though stinging), have a point to them.

I will say this.. NU has done an outstanding job with the rest of the school & continues to do so. I love NU hockey but i feel that as long as the school continues to improve in everything else (academically speaking).. then hockey is second to all of that. I wish we could have both programs rise.. but sports is a diff animal altogether. We have the right people in academics.. do we have the right people in Husky hockey? I don't know. I hope so.

We have additional resources (just as of this yr), & hopefully they are deployed wisely into the program. I sincerely believe most of the alumni athletic donations are going to put more pressure on what you have expressed. Yet, most of the serious & large alumni donations to the U. overall, are not for athletics. Whether being a doormat in hockey.. i don't think for many years people cared one way or another. They were happy with the overall progress of the school. I think now though..enough people do care.. & certain athletic programs (including hockey), will respond to that increase in pressure. It may not happen in the timeframe we like ..but it will happen.
 
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In better news, I took a trip last night to Worcester to see them play Wilkes-Barre and Thiessen/Vitale.

Thiessen was absolutley dominant with a 38-save shutout which made him 7-0 on the season with a 1.84 GAA and a 0.935 save percentage.

He was calm as ever, even in high stress situations with a lot of activity in his crease and every rebound was directed to the corner. With Brent Johnson coming back to earth the last couple games for the big club, I wouldn't be surprised to see Brad get some time in Pittsburgh sometime this year.

As for Vitale, he played very well defensively blocking 3 or 4 shots and provided a lot of energy everytime he was on the ice. He had a goal disallowed (the ref said the goalie covered the puck when it was loose in the crease).
 
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Happy for them both.. Vitale is a humble work horse. Would love to see Thiessen on the big stage.. whenever that might happen. 7-0 so far.. that is amazing.
 
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As I expressed over at DHD, if Cronin can rein in penalties, we'd be able to play the full 60 minute games people want. This year we play strong for a period and a half, maybe 2, but by the 3rd all the penalties have caught up to us and our players are burned out. If we could hold ourselves to 4 or fewer penalties in a game I think we'd see a full effort out there, and a strong game overall. The problem is the opposite of last year, when there was no urgency and the team didn't do anything until the 3rd period. This year I feel like they are trying, but they're running out of energy by the time it's needed most. Maine was going to be a tough weekend, we all expected that and sadly 2 losses wasn't unexpected. I hope they take this weekend's games and go after Providence with a vengeance.
 
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You would think, however lots of the mid western guys don't see Boston or even perhaps Hockey East as a draw, they see it as a negative. I think they believe that CCHA or WCHA conf. is premier tot HE. I am not saying they are, and they also think that the location leads to distraction.

What makes that comment strange is Boston has been the home to 3 national championships in three years. Additionally, BC has constantly made it far in the NCAAs for the past decade and other Hockey East schools have also gone far the past couple years with Maine, BU, Vermont, and UNH (oh wait....) But I do see your point, kids in the midwest have probably grown up with hockey there and always hear about those teams while probably barely hearing about Boston. Hopefully, the city's multiple national titles will get them to perk up.

As for Northeastern, it is probably a tougher sell to gets kids to Boston because it is BU and BC who are the kings of the city in terms of hockey. I can see it being very hard to get really great players when you have a BU or BC team that can almost guarantee you good play and a good future. Northeastern has definitely come a long way in terms of education but it does not send very many players off to the NHL.
 
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What makes that comment strange is Boston has been the home to 3 national championships in three years. Additionally, BC has constantly made it far in the NCAAs for the past decade and other Hockey East schools have also gone far the past couple years with Maine, BU, Vermont, and UNH (oh wait....) But I do see your point, kids in the midwest have probably grown up with hockey there and always hear about those teams while probably barely hearing about Boston. Hopefully, the city's multiple national titles will get them to perk up.

As for Northeastern, it is probably a tougher sell to gets kids to Boston because it is BU and BC who are the kings of the city in terms of hockey. I can see it being very hard to get really great players when you have a BU or BC team that can almost guarantee you good play and a good future. Northeastern has definitely come a long way in terms of education but it does not send very many players off to the NHL.

I'll make three points:
- As poor as the start has been for NU, I've seen two worse teams, Lowell and Amherst, in Hockey East. NU has looked solid against some good competition. Obviously, it is disheartening to lose three times to Atlantic Hockey teams.
- Although BC and BU own the last three NCAA Titles, before that a WCHA team won every title since 2000, save for 2001 and 2007. The 2005 Frozen Four in Columbus had four WCHA programs. The other thing that is telling, go to a high school hockey game around Boston. Check out Duxbury, Hingham, Scituate, Needham if you are on South Shore or Malden Catholic, St. John's Prep, Reading, Burlington, Newburyport, etc if you are on North Shore or Catholic Memorial or BC High around Boston. Then, if you have the Fox College Sports Package, watch some of the Minnesota high school hockey games. There is a huge disparity. The talent coming out of New England is behind that of the Midwest. Check out olympic rosters, development camp invitees, etc if you do not believe me. I'm a Massachusetts guy through and through, but this is just facts.
- I personally think Northeastern, like a lot of schools are better off hiring an alum or someone with a connection to the area. It is an easier sell to be able to tell recruits you lived it. It is tough for NU to recruit top players from the area because BC is the "name school," playing ACC in other sports, so being on tv, print and radio more than any other college athletic program in the area. BU has the tradition and history of success. Harvard has a NCAA Title and obviously is considered by many to be the best academic school in the nation.
 
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I'm curious about Cronin's competition when he was hired, did they pass over anyone that's gone on to do bigger and better things? Cronin's clearly recruited some top players, who probably wouldn't have come here had someone like Crowder tried to get them. I'm interested in seeing what the coaching staff does with the rest of this year and the next year, now that he has his set of assistants around for a while. They managed to create a somewhat respectable season out of last year's early fiasco, can they do the same this year?

With regards to a new coach, why don't we wait until we see what the rest of his contract years look like, we still have 4 I think.
 
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I'm curious about Cronin's competition when he was hired, did they pass over anyone that's gone on to do bigger and better things? Cronin's clearly recruited some top players, who probably wouldn't have come here had someone like Crowder tried to get them.

Crowder stopped trying to get them, Cronin never has. The next few classes look really good on paper too. Top players, players who are getting drafted, and not just once every other year. Guys are getting better over their time here too, something that stopped happening with Crowder after the Chris Lynch/Leon Hayward years. The results have not been there so far this year, boo hoo. They will come.

My major issue, I look at the whole season this way, its a continuation of the end of last season, and really the NCAA season where they could not hold a lead. Thats it. Some new faces, same old results. They cannot come up with a big save, a big blocked shot, a big put it away goal. They play to tight, like they know if they blow a game, its more bike time or they are going to get called out in a film session. Honestly, I think its in Cronin's head now too. More then the PP, more then the PK, they need to new learn how to close out a game. D-men should not jump into the play, forwards should just dump and change, not stay out there longer then they need to. Sit back and invite the other team in and force them to turn it over. They have lost that ability. THAT is the major issue. Once they can fix that, feel comfortable with a lead, not play like the sky is about to cave in, things will look up.

2 leads this weekend, 2 blown games. Fix that, everything else will fall into place.
 
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