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North Dakota announces name.

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Brenthoven said:
Actually, a bunch of us GPLers were on a road trip this weekend, and when this news came up...we pretty much agreed that if we were on the committee, we'd think about quitting.

Prez: here's your ONE job. Go.
Committee: here's our final name list
Prez: Oh, that's nice. Still going to go against everything you worked for and consider the "no-names."

What a circus, even IF it's a smoke screen.
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It's a tricky situation, and candidly, I sympathize with both the President and the Committee.

The "no nickname" choice is far and away the fan favorite, for obvious reasons. Furthermore, a sizable number of former UND athletes have spoken out publicly in favor of that option. Finally, eliminating that choice wasn't something the Committee decided unanimously or without some fairly heated discussion. Pretty prominent Committee members like Dave St. Peter were vocally in favor of including it. The decision to eliminate it, as I understand it, was primarily driven by faculty representatives on the committee who are strongly opposed to the idea that the school will go without a nickname and fans will continue to refer to them as the Sioux.

If I was the Pres, I'd ask the Committee to do the work they've done and come up with their suggestions. But if I thought they made a mistake, I'd step in too.
 
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It's not a tricky situation. Everyone involved in this needs to stop pouting about the Sioux name being gone, put on their big boy pants and realize UND needs to select a new nickname as going forward with no nickname is not acceptable. Even assuming everything is true that UND had no control over anything and got totally screwed by the NCAA, the tribes and the world at large in regards to the Sioux nickname, so what? That cannot be changed and needs to be accepted. Instead many people still refuse to accept this and entertaining the No Nickname option only encourages them. Until a new nickname is selected, this issue can never be resolved.
 
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Dirty said:
It's not a tricky situation. Everyone involved in this needs to stop pouting about the Sioux name being gone, put on their big boy pants and realize UND needs to select a new nickname as going forward with no nickname is not acceptable. Even assuming everything is true that UND had no control over anything and got totally screwed by the NCAA, the tribes and the world at large in regards to the Sioux nickname, so what? That cannot be changed and needs to be accepted. Instead many people still refuse to accept this and entertaining the No Nickname option only encourages them. Until a new nickname is selected, this issue can never be resolved.
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I totally agree with this. Of course that is no longer how the world appears to work...

Sean
 
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Over? It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and this issue won't be "over" until the fans get over it.

If UND really wants to show they have a pair and they're serious about putting this period of their history behind them, let's see the University ban all "Sioux" gear at home games... then we know it's officially "over". Pretty much zero chance of that happening because there is money involved, so this issue will outlast my lifetime regardless of what changes are made by those in charge.

Ryan J
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Over? It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and this issue won't be "over" until the fans get over it.

If UND really wants to show they have a pair and they're serious about putting this period of their history behind them, let's see the University ban all "Sioux" gear at home games... then we know it's officially "over". Pretty much zero chance of that happening because there is money involved, so this issue will outlast my lifetime regardless of what changes are made by those in charge.

Ryan J
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Plus the fact that it is an asinine idea.
 
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Dirty said:
It's not a tricky situation. Everyone involved in this needs to stop pouting about the Sioux name being gone, put on their big boy pants and realize UND needs to select a new nickname as going forward with no nickname is not acceptable. Even assuming everything is true that UND had no control over anything and got totally screwed by the NCAA, the tribes and the world at large in regards to the Sioux nickname, so what? That cannot be changed and needs to be accepted. Instead many people still refuse to accept this and entertaining the No Nickname option only encourages them. Until a new nickname is selected, this issue can never be resolved.
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I personally think the whole thing is ridiculous, going all the way back to the lawsuit. It's a friggin' nickname. It's like spending thousands of hours and who knows how much money arguing about what color the jerseys should be.

But, if you are University President you are a fool if you don't periodically check to see which way the political winds are blowing and heed those signs.
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Over? It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and this issue won't be "over" until the fans get over it.

If UND really wants to show they have a pair and they're serious about putting this period of their history behind them, let's see the University ban all "Sioux" gear at home games... then we know it's officially "over". Pretty much zero chance of that happening because there is money involved, so this issue will outlast my lifetime regardless of what changes are made by those in charge.

Ryan J
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last I heard, it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor.

SJHovey said:
But, if you are University President you are a fool if you don't periodically check to see which way the political winds are blowing and heed those signs.
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the President is a lame duck, so he's probably not too concerned about CYA and keeping his job, more likely more concerned about his legacy and not wanting 1/2 the state to hate him.

The next fiasco is determining who can vote, the Fighting Sioux name haters will of course want anyone and everyone, including illegals to vote, just like in politics.
 
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Dirty said:
It's not a tricky situation. Everyone involved in this needs to stop pouting about the Sioux name being gone, put on their big boy pants and realize UND needs to select a new nickname as going forward with no nickname is not acceptable. Even assuming everything is true that UND had no control over anything and got totally screwed by the NCAA, the tribes and the world at large in regards to the Sioux nickname, so what? That cannot be changed and needs to be accepted. Instead many people still refuse to accept this and entertaining the No Nickname option only encourages them. Until a new nickname is selected, this issue can never be resolved.
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OK, who has hacked Dirty's account and posted a rational response to this issue?
 
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pokechecker said:
last I heard, it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor.
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True. I mistakenly felt that quoting the classics was always reasonable in this forum. However in the future I will limit my humor references to more current events and celebs such as Caitlyn, Miley Cyrus, Left Shark, Kanye West and the Kardashian family in general so that all may participate in the discussion.
Faithfully Submitted,
Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant-at-Arms
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Over? It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and this issue won't be "over" until the fans get over it.

If UND really wants to show they have a pair and they're serious about putting this period of their history behind them, let's see the University ban all "Sioux" gear at home games... then we know it's officially "over". Pretty much zero chance of that happening because there is money involved, so this issue will outlast my lifetime regardless of what changes are made by those in charge.

Ryan J
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That would never happen until UND has to full out replace the REA.
 
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Is it that difficult to sit down with a stick that far up your ***?
 
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