North Dakota 2016 Off-Season Thread

[burd]

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Meh.

I don't care for college hockey as much anymore I am even starting to support the CHL model and do away with college hockey all together. Oh, sure I will support my team but I would rather see the Wild win Stanley Cups over winning National championship games.

Don't we know. No gopher fan ever really wanted a recruit they lost either.

I have to say though, that I understand the part about not needing titles nearly as much. As I get older they become less and less meaningful. Great hockey is still just as enjoyable, but the partisan part of it not so much. It's still good for sport though.

 

[Dirty]

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Meh.

I don't care for college hockey as much anymore I am even starting to support the CHL model and do away with college hockey all together. Oh, sure I will support my team but I would rather see the Wild win Stanley Cups over winning National championship games.

I assume the Portland Winterhawks or the Shawingan Cataractes.

 

[Happy]

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The funny part of the Happy Excuse is that he is basically saying it is not fair to compare banner totals because Minnesota has had to win its banners using inferior talent: Minnesotans.

I guess that is part of his genius--that his premise cannot be denied.

Throw out the over-age Canadians, and most of the rest are from Minnesota. UND cannot win without Minnesota, but Minnesota can win without ND.

 

[Dirty]

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So is it Canada or Minnesota that UND can't win without? It seems to be changing from post to post. This is so confusing.

 

[willythekid]

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Throw out the over-age Canadians, and most of the rest are from Minnesota. UND cannot win without Minnesota, but Minnesota can win without ND.

Minnesota can win? Huh... news to me.

 

[burd]

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Throw out the over-age Canadians, and most of the rest are from Minnesota. UND cannot win without Minnesota, but Minnesota can win without ND.

Last years team WHICH WON THE NC, was younger than Minnesota, Canadians included. 5 players from the Grand Forks area, 6 from the rest of Minnie, and 7 from canada. Of the five who were good enough to go pro early, three were from Grand Forks, one from Wisconsin, and none from Minnie (outside of Grand Forks area).

Minnie hasn't won a NC without a nodak in what, 40 years?

Face it, Happy, ours is bigger than yours.

 

[omahasioux1]

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So is it Canada or Minnesota that UND can't win without? It seems to be changing from post to post. This is so confusing.

Crack kills.

 

[Happy]

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Last years team WHICH WON THE NC, was younger than Minnesota, Canadians included. 5 players from the Grand Forks area, 6 from the rest of Minnie, and 7 from canada. Of the five who were good enough to go pro early, three were from Grand Forks, one from Wisconsin, and none from Minnie (outside of Grand Forks area).

Minnie hasn't won a NC without a nodak in what, 40 years?

Face it, Happy, ours is bigger than yours.

I guess if you can use "Grand Forks area" like that, I will just use, "Grand Forks, previous Minnesota Territory", and claim everything.

 

[icehawk]

I guess if you can use "Grand Forks area" like that, I will just use, "Grand Forks, previous Minnesota Territory", and claim everything.

Reach and reach some more Happless.

 

[D2D]

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Yet here you are, on a website/forum dedicated to college hockey, continuing to post about your apathy towards college hockey. Man, Gopher fans really know how to be depressed wet blankets. I thought Wisconsin fans would've had the market cornered on that for what they've had to endure under the waning years of Eaves' regime but they are even chipper than this.

As an avid Gopher fan I have to agree with what you're saying here. Personally I can't wait for the season to start. And my two brothers and I are already planning to make the trip out to Las Vegas to see our team take on the Sioux in 2017-18. Finally a good reason to go there!

 

[burd]

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I guess if you can use "Grand Forks area" like that, I will just use, "Grand Forks, previous Minnesota Territory", and claim everything.

I personally think it is cool that UMTC can have a roster of all Minnesota kids and compete at the highest level, and they have. North Dakota could never do that. They have to go outside. But this isn't community hockey: it is UNIVERSITY hockey. It is not intended to be a provincial experience. If UMTC wishes to go the other way with that, fine, but as an excuse it just makes you seem even more provincial.

What I don't get is why UMTC limits themselves to players who are short, weak, and ugly.

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

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Meh.

I don't care for college hockey as much anymore I am even starting to support the CHL model and do away with college hockey all together. Oh, sure I will support my team but I would rather see the Wild win Stanley Cups over winning National championship games.

Doesn't look like either is going to be happening any time soon.

 

[Happy]

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I personally think it is cool that UMTC can have a roster of all Minnesota kids and compete at the highest level, and they have. North Dakota could never do that. They have to go outside. But this isn't community hockey: it is UNIVERSITY hockey. It is not intended to be a provincial experience. If UMTC wishes to go the other way with that, fine, but as an excuse it just makes you seem even more provincial.

What I don't get is why UMTC limits themselves to players who are short, weak, and ugly.

Some schools helped with developing amateur hockey in the USA, and some just recruited Canadians. The first group of schools is one of the major reasons there has been growth in USA hockey. I like that.

 

[willythekid]

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Some schools helped with developing amateur hockey in the USA, and some just recruited Canadians. The first group of schools is one of the major reasons there has been growth in USA hockey. I like that.

You must really like Gino Gasparini then. You know, the whole developing amatuer hockey in the USA thing.

 

[4four4]

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Last years team WHICH WON THE NC, was younger than Minnesota, Canadians included. 5 players from the Grand Forks area, 6 from the rest of Minnie, and 7 from canada. Of the five who were good enough to go pro early, three were from Grand Forks, one from Wisconsin, and none from Minnie (outside of Grand Forks area).

Minnie hasn't won a NC without a nodak in what, 40 years?

Face it, Happy, ours is bigger than yours.

Five years this comment would have bugged me but today it's, meh. College hockey has gotten better but the best players are now 19 or 20 years old in the NHL following their dreams of the Minnesota Wild. Years ago when I fell in love with Herb Brooks' teams I knew they were all staying for the full four years but today they are gone. Back in the day college hockey rivalries were awesome but today meh. The arenas used to be full across the WCHA and the CCHA but today sell outs are nonexistent. I used to love the college hockey atmosphere but now it's meh. It's great to see UND still support their program but across the West it's trying. Oh, sure UND can stick their chests out but privately I bet all of you would have rather won in the old WCHA so you could really rub the Gopher noses in it. I know we are in a new era of college hockey I have sadly come to accept college hockey will never be the same.

 

[burd]

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Five years this comment would have bugged me but today it's, meh. College hockey has gotten better but the best players are now 19 or 20 years old in the NHL following their dreams of the Minnesota Wild. Years ago when I fell in love with Herb Brooks' teams I knew they were all staying for the full four years but today they are gone. Back in the day college hockey rivalries were awesome but today meh. The arenas used to be full across the WCHA and the CCHA but today sell outs are nonexistent. I used to love the college hockey atmosphere but now it's meh. It's great to see UND still support their program but across the West it's trying. Oh, sure UND can stick their chests out but privately I bet all of you would have rather won in the old WCHA so you could really rub the Gopher noses in it. I know we are in a new era of college hockey I have sadly come to accept college hockey will never be the same.

Having started watching college hockey more than 45 years ago, I get what you are feeling, 4--there is some truth to what you say. But I guess I'm just not at that point yet. It's still a dam good game.

 

[pokechecker]

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Five years this comment would have bugged me but today it's, meh. College hockey has gotten better but the best players are now 19 or 20 years old in the NHL following their dreams of the Minnesota Wild. Years ago when I fell in love with Herb Brooks' teams I knew they were all staying for the full four years but today they are gone. Back in the day college hockey rivalries were awesome but today meh. The arenas used to be full across the WCHA and the CCHA but today sell outs are nonexistent. I used to love the college hockey atmosphere but now it's meh. It's great to see UND still support their program but across the West it's trying. Oh, sure UND can stick their chests out but privately I bet all of you would have rather won in the old WCHA so you could really rub the Gopher noses in it. I know we are in a new era of college hockey I have sadly come to accept college hockey will never be the same.

who are you referring to? the best left as soon as a pro contract was put under their nose, no different than today

oh, and good luck with the Wild, their chances of winning the Cup aren't any better than the NoStars were

I must admit though, it is funny reading the claim that EGF is part of NoDik, it's the other way around, Grand Forks hockey is on the shirt tails of EGF, and consequently MN hockey

 

[4four4]

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Having started watching college hockey more than 45 years ago, I get what you are feeling, 4--there is some truth to what you say. But I guess I'm just not at that point yet. It's still a dam good game.

It's a good game but the elite are gone within a year or two while years ago they stayed for the full four years. American hockey has gotten better with more depth at the third and fourth line.

 

[4four4]

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who are you referring to? the best left as soon as a pro contract was put under their nose, no different than today

oh, and good luck with the Wild, their chances of winning the Cup aren't any better than the NoStars were

I must admit though, it is funny reading the claim that EGF is part of NoDik, it's the other way around, Grand Forks hockey is on the shirt tails of EGF, and consequently MN hockey

The difference between 20 years ago and today the best players leave even earlier than they once did. When I was following the old, old WCHA the best players stayed for the full four years and rivalries were real. Today it's phony the best kids all say we love it here but then they leave ASAP to start their NHL FA clock which I don't have a problem with. I get it college hockey has become a young feeder program for the NHL without the league giving anything back to the colleges so they can invest in their facilities. The fact of the matter is college hockey will never be the same ever again. It's just not fun like it used to be when I was a kid watching Michigan, North Dakota and Wisconsin battling it out for a WCHA title.

I don't know why you are so defensive but the Wild are a better run organization than the North Stars ever were and have a better chance of winning a Stanley Cup.

I don't have an opinion of your last sentence.

 

[Slap Shot]

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The difference between 20 years ago and today the best players leave even earlier than they once did.

Plenty of grreat players stayed for 4 (Millen comes to mind, Chorske went back for a "4th year" after the Olympics) but plenty of players left early going back decades. Holmgren played 1, Reed Larson 3, N Broten went back for in essence a "3rd" year but left early, Aaron only played 2, Klatt 3, Darby 2, Clymer 2, Rasmussen 2....