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Nice Planet X: I knew it, I'm surrounded by a-holes!

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FlagDUDE08 said:
Welcome to the New World Order.

BTW, guns don't kill people. People kill people. Water can even be lethal, are you going to ban that next?
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For someone who complains about the sheeple, you sure have bought the NRA's propaganda hook, line and sinker. :p

There's a simple solution to the gun debate. Let the voters in each locality decide whether to ban them or allow them. They'll wind up banned in most cities, legal in most rural areas, and probably about 50/50 in suburbs based on local cultural issues. Then let people vote with their feet about where they want to live, raise kids, etc.
 
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Kepler said:
For someone who complains about the sheeple, you sure have bought the NRA's propaganda hook, line and sinker. :p

There's a simple solution to the gun debate. Let the voters in each locality decide whether to ban them or allow them. They'll wind up banned in most cities, legal in most rural areas, and probably about 50/50 in suburbs based on local cultural issues. Then let people vote with their feet about where they want to live, raise kids, etc.
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It's not propaganda, but rather common sense. Obviously something they don't teach with an ivy league education.

Guns are already banned in many European, Asian, and Australian countries. Put your money where your mouth is and vote with your feet if you so want them banned.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It's not propaganda, but rather common sense. Obviously something they don't teach with an ivy league education.

Guns are already banned in many European, Asian, and Australian countries. Put your money where your mouth is and vote with your feet if you so want them banned.
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The things you write have many adjectives. "Sensible" is not among them.

As for gun laws, I don't care either way. I've talked to enough hunters down here that I have become completely ambivalent. I just think it's crazy that this of all things has become the third rail of American politics. Reining in the NRA lobby is important, even if the laws don't change. It's unhealthy that a business lobby is able to hold our entire Congress hostage to its business plan.
 
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Kepler said:
The things you write have many adjectives. "Sensible" is not among them.

As for gun laws, I don't care either way. I've talked to enough hunters down here that I have become completely ambivalent. I just think it's crazy that this of all things has become the third rail of American politics. Reining in the NRA lobby is important, even if the laws don't change. It's unhealthy that a business lobby is able to hold our entire Congress hostage to its business plan.
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The second amendment is the only hope that the citizens of this country have against absolute tyranny. Without it, we are defenceless. Radical emperors have chosen not to attack this country by ground on our soil because they are afraid of the consequences of the second amendment, which the British Empire learned the hard way. This is another reason why no one attacks Switzerland: Every citizen has firearms and knows how to use them.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Yeah, that's why noone attacks almighty Switzerland. :D
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Read up on Operation Tannenbaum. The armed populace gave Hitler enough of the heebie-jeebies to cancel an invasion.
Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader.
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It's a good lesson in a general sense, but the value of the specifics isn't much in the age of nukes and drones.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
The second amendment is the only hope that the citizens of this country have against absolute tyranny. Without it, we are defenceless. Radical emperors have chosen not to attack this country by ground on our soil because they are afraid of the consequences of the second amendment, which the British Empire learned the hard way. This is another reason why no one attacks Switzerland: Every citizen has firearms and knows how to use them.
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Yeah, the British Empire really learned the hard way when they burned down D.C. Or repelled our invasion of Canada.

Or are we talking about Japan in 1941 who had neither the logistical nor military capability to even attempt an invasion?

Or the Nazis, who wanted to keep us out of the war? And didn't have the logistical capabilities to attempt it as well.

But, since we're both Illuminati, we know the real reason. ;)
 
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geezer said:
Read up on Operation Tannenbaum. The armed populace gave Hitler enough of the heebie-jeebies to cancel an invasion.

It's a good lesson in a general sense, but the value of the specifics isn't much in the age of nukes and drones.
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I mean the guy was a tactical genius and everything...
 
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geezer said:
Read up on Operation Tannenbaum. The armed populace gave Hitler enough of the heebie-jeebies to cancel an invasion.

It's a good lesson in a general sense, but the value of the specifics isn't much in the age of nukes and drones.
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This is exactly why I was very specific in terms of ground warfare. Aerial attacks, whether by planes flying or ballistics, can still happen. Because flight is heavily regulated for allowance, we do not have as good of a defence there.
 
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geezer said:
I don't understand your statement. Is this some awkward way of trying to move the goalposts, or what?
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More of a troll fail. The assumption that people think he was a tactical genius is based on how many of us see his actions as the inspiration behind the New World Order. Once again, it comes down to the difference between concepts and the execution thereof.
 
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geezer said:
I don't understand your statement. Is this some awkward way of trying to move the goalposts, or what?
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Are we really gonna argue that Hitler was some tactical genius and him not invading Switzerland because they are all armed has any type of significant meaning re gun rights?

You're right, in today's world of drone strikes, nuclear weapons, and the government having far more advanced weaponry than the average citizen, the whole armed militia thing is pretty darn irrelevant and you'd have to be a total whack job/NRA parrot like Flagdude to buy that line of thinking. But even in that example I'm not sure how significant it is because Hitler made all sorts of dumb decisions and his strategy as a general doesn't really further the point that arming the entire populace is necessarily beneficial. It's like a failed appeal to authority.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Yeah, the British Empire really learned the hard way when they burned down D.C. Or repelled our invasion of Canada.

Or are we talking about Japan in 1941 who had neither the logistical nor military capability to even attempt an invasion?

Or the Nazis, who wanted to keep us out of the war? And didn't have the logistical capabilities to attempt it as well.

But, since we're both Illuminati, we know the real reason. ;)
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We burned down York (Toronto) first.
 
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joecct said:
Even the Canadians admit it.
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Fort York and the town were poorly defended. From our side, the sacking of the White House was a bigger deal and more embarrassing to your side.

Kep......the Battle of Queenston Heights and the debacle that was Smythe's incursion across the Niagara River were seminal events for Upper Canada and Britain. One of many campaign victories for our side. ;)
 
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trixR4kids said:
Are we really gonna argue that Hitler was some tactical genius
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I'm certainly not. You're the one that brought it up.
Are you trying to say that if he had been a "tactical genius" that he would have gone after Switzerland regardless of the cost? And the only reason he didn't invade was that he was foolish? Why?
Anyway, I wasn't really here to debate Hitler's level of "tactical genius." My point was that the armed citizens of Switzerland may have prevented an invasion of their homeland during WWII by being armed, ready, and willing.
 
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Hitler was a tactical genius, until he got sick/his ego overtook him/etc.

Good start, horrible endgame.

Said from a very neutral point of view, meaning I never agreed with him, but can see his movements from a neutral standpoint.
 
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