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One step closer to having the never acted upon indictment of John and Patsy Ramsey for the murder of their little girl released to the public. An unforgettable moment in this tragedy came when Larry King was interviewing the Ramseys and a young Boulder detective. He leaned across the desk and told Patsy: "I think you're good for this." He was right.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/judge-jonbenet-indictment-should-be-public
 
Re: Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

One step closer to having the never acted upon indictment of John and Patsy Ramsey for the murder of their little girl released to the public. An unforgettable moment in this tragedy came when Larry King was interviewing the Ramseys and a young Boulder detective. He leaned across the desk and told Patsy: "I think you're good for this." He was right.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/judge-jonbenet-indictment-should-be-public

The grand jury thought that there was enough to take the case against the Ramseys to trial, but the district attorney didn't think there was enough to convice, so he doesn't sign the order. They may very well have done it, I don't know, nor did I follow the case all that closely - it was my senior year in college. That said, you seem pretty well convinced.
 
Re: Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

One step closer to having the never acted upon indictment of John and Patsy Ramsey for the murder of their little girl released to the public. An unforgettable moment in this tragedy came when Larry King was interviewing the Ramseys and a young Boulder detective. He leaned across the desk and told Patsy: "I think you're good for this." He was right.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/judge-jonbenet-indictment-should-be-public

It would have been nice to at least get them on trial. There very well may not have been enough evidence to convict, and we'd have ended up with another Casey Anthony situation.

Is there any reason they still couldn't be charged? There's no statute of limitations on murder, so really, they could still be charged right? Or is there something about this specific case that I don't know or am missing?
 
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It would have been nice to at least get them on trial. There very well may not have been enough evidence to convict, and we'd have ended up with another Casey Anthony situation.

Is there any reason they still couldn't be charged? There's no statute of limitations on murder, so really, they could still be charged right? Or is there something about this specific case that I don't know or am missing?
You'll have to try Patsy Ramsey in absentia. She died 7 years ago. :p
 
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I don't recall hearing that he passed. Pretty sure the family fled Colorado. As to his current whereabouts I have no idea.

It would **** near impossible to convict him, if he is still around. He could just lay it all of on his late wife, and no one could prove it any differently.
 
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Didn't know that she died...the father is still around?

The so-called ransom note (complete with partial first draft) ran to 300 hand written words. It was written on a pad with a Sharpie, both from that house. In it, the "kidnapper" demanded an amount equal to John Ramsey's Christmas bonus (an odd amount and not the customary half a mill, a mill, etc). Coincidence? The FBI was able to exclude everyone except Patsy as the author of the note. In it there's a reference to John's "good southern common sense." John Ramsey is from Charlevoix. The "southern common sense" crack was a family joke when he visited Patsy's tobacco road relatives. How would an "intruder" know the amount of his bonus and an inside family joke about his "southernness?" Answer: he wouldn't.

The garrot around the little girl's neck (she also had a four inch long skull fracture) was tightened using a broken paint brush from Patsy's art gear, which was stored in the basement where the girl's body was found.

I think what p*ssed me off about Patsy the most (apart from murdering her daughter) was a comment I heard her make that pagenting only took a few hours on weekends. Well, yes. By that standard, the Denver Broncos only work four hours a week. The practices don't count. And in the little girl's case neither, apparently, did rehearsing the dancing and singing, the costume fittings, the photo sessions, the hairstyling, the manicures, etc. IMO, putting these kids in pagents is this close to child abuse.

In his book Perfect Murder Perfect Town, Lawrence Schiller pointed out that Jon Benet had regressed in her toilet training and had started wetting her bed. This was so frequent, her parents had installed an apartment washer/dryer in her bedroom so that she could strip her bed of a morning and throw the linens in the washer. That young Boulder cop referred to a "toileting" accident that he thinks set Patsy off. She probably didn't intend to kill the child, but lashed out in anger, fracturing her skull. The rest was just an ad hoc plan to divert suspicion. Staging.

It is preposterous to surmise that some sort of intruder killed Jon Benet in that house. That he somehow knew there was a beautiful little girl living there, snuck in the basement, went up two flights of stairs to her bedroom, snatched her and took her down those two flights of stairs to the basement where he killed her. All requiring enormous risks of being discovered. And leaving behind no evidence.

Think of the Polly Klass case in California. That monster snatched her out of her first floor bedroom, took her to some place where he felt comfortable, then killed her. Jon Benet was killed in that house. And the "intruder" supposedly also took the time to hand write a 300 word "ransom" note. If you'd just killed a little girl would you want to hang around? Like the detective says in Psycho "If it doesn't gel, it isn't aspic. And this ain't gelling."

Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter. And I hope she's rotting in hell. I'm not entirely sure what role the father may have played. But, like that cop said on Larry King, "Patsy I think you're good for this." Amen. Boulder DA Alex Hunter is the reverse image of Mike Nifong. Hunter wouldn't indict a couple of local big shots who were up to their lips in the murder of their little girl. Nifong was prepared to send three Duke boys, whom he new to be innocent, to prison for decades to advance his political career

John Ramsey has remarried and is living in Charlevoix.
 
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Two outrages in one story. By far the most important, a little blonde girl found living with a gypsy couple in Greece. She's not theirs. And they have multiple explanations for how they got her. And multiple identity and birth documents for non-existent children.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/19/world/europe/greece-mystery-child/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


The second outrage is that CNN thinks the really really really important thing here is that it might inflame anti-gypsy prejudice. The fact that there might be child trafficking going on is only significant because it might reflect badly on gypsies, not that people might be buying and selling children.

It's this nonsense that drives conservatives crazy. Can we investigate and put an end to the child slavery first (find other victims, return them to their families) then worry about anti-Gypsy bigotry?
 
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Re: Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

Two outrages in one story. By far the most important, a little blonde girl found living with a gypsy couple in Greece. She's not theirs. And they have multiple explanations for how they got her. And multiple identity and birth documents for non-existent children.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/19/world/europe/greece-mystery-child/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


The second outrage is that CNN thinks the really really really important thing about the story is that it might inflame anti-gypsy prejudice. The fact that there might be child trafficking going on is only significant because it might reflect badly on some gypsies, not that people might be buying and selling children.

It's this nonsense that drives conservatives crazy. Can we investigate and put an end to the child slavery first (find other victims, return them to their families) then worry about anti-Gypsy bigotry?

Turkish: You show me how to control a wild *ing gypsy and I'll show you how to control an unhinged, pig-feeding gangster.
 
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Turkish: You show me how to control a wild *ing gypsy and I'll show you how to control an unhinged, pig-feeding gangster.

Dr. Pio once had a Gypsy big shot as a patient. He required an exploratory thoracotomy for which (based on the sliding fee) the charge would be 5 large. Sitting in his office, Dr. Pio told the Gypsy and his posse that the payment would be made now and in cash. "Just put the money on my desk and step back." The fee was paid.
 
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