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Nice Planet 2012

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Why don't you two Ninnies go take your fight to your own thread and leave the rest of us to insult stupid people in peace?? :p
 
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"Very little" is more than none, right?
It's hard not to have a smidgeon of respect for you, it must be an incredibly feat just for you to get through the day without choking on your own saliva.

Since I know it's one of your ticks, you can have the last word. Wouldn't want your caretaker to have more work.
 
Good for the father. Got right on top of fixing that sick pervert.
From about a week ago in this same thread:

Jeez, I hope that story's not true. Annecdotally we read of teachers concerned about touching students for fear of being reported. And let's face it, kids are ten thousand times more sophisticated about these things than when I was a kid. And many parents are all too willing to believe just about any fairy tale a kid can make up. The day care witch hunt trials of the 90's should prove that point. Remember Ellie Nessler? She murdered the guy who apparantly molested her kid, IN COURT! And many people were willing to excuse her because, you know, he molested her kid. They weren't able to see that establishing a precedent whereby victims' families can murder their victimizers can lead us to a place where we don't want to go.
 
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From about a week ago in this same thread:

If you're going to quote me (and I understand the impulse) why not do it in context, just for the novelty? Why don't you explain what your "point" was here? Or did you have one? And why not source your quotes? Or has there been some change in the libtard style guide?
 
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I think I know what you mean, duper, but I disagree. Standing for the Pledge is merely showing respect for the country and those people around you. Placing your hand over your heart makes you a participant in it - tacitly agreeing with the Pledge. I'm not asking her to take the Pledge, just stand and show respect for those that are and the country it represents. It is similar to proper etiquette when a national anthem is played: stand and remove your hat. I assume you do that when Oh, Canada is played (assuming you are American). It doesn't make you a Canadian or even a Canadian sympathizer, it just means you are showing respect to Canada and Canadians.
The thing about this point for me is that I think Jehovah's witnesses are a little nuts, but I have met at least one other Jehovah's Witness who did believe that to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance was a form of idolatry. I think that's goofy, but if that's what her religion tells her, assuming that she really believes that, and it seems to mesh with what some other people of the same religion believe, I think people need to let it go.
What are the "idiots" doing that's either intolerant or ignorant?
By "griping" that she doesn't stand for the Pledge, they are tacitly saying that her religion is less valid than their religion, or lack thereof, or whatever. I would be willing to bet that all staff knows why she doesn't stand for the Pledge, but they have no respect for her religion. In other words, they are, to me, the same as her; they want to get respect without feeling the need to give it.
 
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The thing about this point for me is that I think Jehovah's witnesses are a little nuts, but I have met at least one other Jehovah's Witness who did believe that to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance was a form of idolatry. I think that's goofy, but if that's what her religion tells her, assuming that she really believes that, and it seems to mesh with what some other people of the same religion believe, I think people need to let it go.
By "griping" that she doesn't stand for the Pledge, they are tacitly saying that her religion is less valid than their religion, or lack thereof, or whatever. I would be willing to bet that all staff knows why she doesn't stand for the Pledge, but they have no respect for her religion. In other words, they are, to me, the same as her; they want to get respect without feeling the need to give it.

The only one doing anything wrong here is this racist, evangelical Jehovah's Witness moonbat. She is a teacher. And she should try to set an example for the children in her care. I'm not astonished (a little surprised) that you leap to her defense. How is it possible to defend her actions in walking in on rehersal and demanding that the music be stopped? And then announcing that a song proclaiming pride in America be dropped. Couldn't this have been discussed with the teachers involved and not in front of the kids? How does that not make her an agressive, evangelical, racist b*tch? What "other cultures" is she concerned about?

She's free to leave the room (or stay outside) when the pledge is recited. But that isn't quite as much fun as refusing to stand, is it?
 
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I'm trying to find the comment where I leap to her defense.
I don't like this, but I also think that the idiots who are mad that she doesn't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance are just as intolerant and ignorant as she is.
Nope. Not here. Unless not liking it and acknowledging her intolerance and ignorance are leaping to her defense.

The thing about this point for me is that I think Jehovah's witnesses are a little nuts, but I have met at least one other Jehovah's Witness who did believe that to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance was a form of idolatry. I think that's goofy, but if that's what her religion tells her, assuming that she really believes that, and it seems to mesh with what some other people of the same religion believe, I think people need to let it go.
Not here, either. Somehow, saying I think people need to let it go doesn't seem to me to qualify as leaping to her defense.

duper said:
By "griping" that she doesn't stand for the Pledge, they are tacitly saying that her religion is less valid than their religion, or lack thereof, or whatever. I would be willing to bet that all staff knows why she doesn't stand for the Pledge, but they have no respect for her religion. In other words, they are, to me, the same as her; they want to get respect without feeling the need to give it.
In point of fact, I think this one makes it clear that I have very little respect for anyone involved in this little tiff.

The only one doing anything wrong here is this racist, evangelical Jehovah's Witness moonbat. She is a teacher. And she should try to set an example for the children in her care. I'm not astonished (a little surprised) that you leap to her defense. How is it possible to defend her actions in walking in on rehersal and demanding that the music be stopped? And then announcing that a song proclaiming pride in America be dropped. Couldn't this have been discussed with the teachers involved and not in front of the kids? How does that not make her an agressive, evangelical, racist b*tch? What "other cultures" is she concerned about?

She's free to leave the room (or stay outside) when the pledge is recited. But that isn't quite as much fun as refusing to stand, is it?
I am likewise not astonished, or even a little surprised, that you totally mischaracterized my comments. In my mind, there are two things here.

One is a school principal who made a unilateral judgment on behalf of her school that was not in the school's interest. That's messed up. I don't agree with that at all. I have had bosses pull that shyte, as I'm sure we all have, and it sucks. I certainly don't defend it. And I'm not sure what gave the impression that I did defend that. Somehow "I don't like it" doesn't strike me as a defense of the action. Neither does referring to her as intolerant and ignorant. But maybe that's just me.

Second is the fact that the article, which certainly doesn't seem to be biased TOWARD this woman, does mention that some teachers "griped" about her not feeling the same way about the Pledge of Allegiance that they do. Maybe you don't get that her religion does not ALLOW her to stand for the Pledge. Maybe you just don't care about people who subscribe to religions you think are crazy (and I assure you that I agree that this is a crazy religion). Maybe you think that because someone's honestly held religious views are stupid, they have different rights to them than the rest of us. Maybe you think nationalism is more important than individual freedom. Who knows. But I will defend the right of someone to sit during the Pledge of Allegiance if their religious views DEMAND it. No one ever asks you to leave a public place because of your religious views. Why should you, or anyone else, suggest that she should leave a public place because of her religious views?

Frankly, it never occurred to me that pointing out that the bigots who believe her particular religion's view of idolatry is unacceptable in a public place in a free country would be even remotely controversial. Especially since I did it in a post in which I made it pretty clear that the decision that formed the crux of the article was one I don't like.
 
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Frankly, it never occurred to me that pointing out that the bigots who believe her particular religion's view of idolatry is unacceptable in a public place in a free country would be even remotely controversial. Especially since I did it in a post in which I made it pretty clear that the decision that formed the crux of the article was one I don't like.
To be fair, a truly bigoted person is likely to find that kind of controversy anywhere they see a worldview that isn't compatible with theirs.
 
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I'm trying to find the comment where I leap to her defense.Nope. Not here. Unless not liking it and acknowledging her intolerance and ignorance are leaping to her defense.

Not here, either. Somehow, saying I think people need to let it go doesn't seem to me to qualify as leaping to her defense.

In point of fact, I think this one makes it clear that I have very little respect for anyone involved in this little tiff.

I am likewise not astonished, or even a little surprised, that you totally mischaracterized my comments. In my mind, there are two things here.

One is a school principal who made a unilateral judgment on behalf of her school that was not in the school's interest. That's messed up. I don't agree with that at all. I have had bosses pull that shyte, as I'm sure we all have, and it sucks. I certainly don't defend it. And I'm not sure what gave the impression that I did defend that. Somehow "I don't like it" doesn't strike me as a defense of the action. Neither does referring to her as intolerant and ignorant. But maybe that's just me.

Second is the fact that the article, which certainly doesn't seem to be biased TOWARD this woman, does mention that some teachers "griped" about her not feeling the same way about the Pledge of Allegiance that they do. Maybe you don't get that her religion does not ALLOW her to stand for the Pledge. Maybe you just don't care about people who subscribe to religions you think are crazy (and I assure you that I agree that this is a crazy religion). Maybe you think that because someone's honestly held religious views are stupid, they have different rights to them than the rest of us. Maybe you think nationalism is more important than individual freedom. Who knows. But I will defend the right of someone to sit during the Pledge of Allegiance if their religious views DEMAND it. No one ever asks you to leave a public place because of your religious views. Why should you, or anyone else, suggest that she should leave a public place because of her religious views?

Frankly, it never occurred to me that pointing out that the bigots who believe her particular religion's view of idolatry is unacceptable in a public place in a free country would be even remotely controversial. Especially since I did it in a post in which I made it pretty clear that the decision that formed the crux of the article was one I don't like.

She's a bully and a petty tyrant, in addition to her other shortcomings. You have decided, absent any evidence, that the victims of her caprices are "idiots" and "bigots." Why? The 5 year olds in her care are being taught to show respect for their country and flag by standing. Is it "age appropriate" for her not to stand? Is it possible to adequately explain to 5 year olds the nuances of her religion? Should anybody even try? And what is she doing in a classroom when the pledge is recited anyway? Doesn't she have an office? And isn't that office where she generally belongs? Did your principal show up in classrooms every day for the pledge? Mine didn't. Generally the only time I saw him was when I was referred to his office for an attitude adjustment. This babe LIKES not standing up for the pledge, and evidently seeks out opportunities where she can show the kiddies her a*s. She has responsibilities that extend beyond her own personal religious beliefs. And if she can't conform her behavior to what it generally expected of a principal in a public school she should find another job.

If she were a snake handler, I'd expect her to leave the rattlers at home. I once had a Christian Science teacher, in front of the class, offer her opinions about what was REALLY wrong with me when I had an attack of appendicitis. My old man, the chest cutter, peeled a couple of layers of her skin off (and the principal, too). The issue was not her adoration of Mary Baker Eddy, it was sharing it with me and my classmates. Same thing here. It seems clear she goes out of her way to shove her beliefs in the kids faces. To me, that's not appropriate for a teacher, and especially for a principal. And I don't think a school is a "public place" in the commonly accepted sense of that phrase. You and I, for instance, would have a heap of explaining to do if we were to just walk in off the street into a "public" school. In this instance, "public" refers to the way the school is paid for, not an invitation for every stinky OWS loser to set up house keeping.

She had made comments in the past about the new "black" regime at her school which is replacing the "jews." After first offering the ridiculous indefensible notion about other "cultures" being "offended" by a patriotic song,she changed her tune to whether or not the lyrics were "age appropriate." Well, apart from "Twinkle, twinkle Little Star," and "I Love You, You Love Me," there aren't that many "age apprioriate" songs out there for 5 years olds. And if that is the standard, then maybe some of those kiddies can explain what "indivisible" means.

This babe is not worthy of your defense. She's a loser. And should be dismissed immediately.
 
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Once again, I am unsurprised at the way that you have mis-characterized my comments.
 
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Once again, I am unsurprised at the way that you have mis-characterized my comments.
Ignore is a wonderful thing. When you see' this post is blocked' you don't waste the time reading what you didn't know you were saying. :p
 
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Ignore is a wonderful thing. When you see' this post is blocked' you don't waste the time reading what you didn't know you were saying. :p


Blah, blah, blah "ignore." Blah, blah, blah "ignore." Got anything new to say?
 
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Blah, blah, blah "ignore." Blah, blah, blah "ignore." Got anything new to say?

No. Every time les posts that you're on ignore, I come *this* close putting les on ignore. Unoriginal, uninspired, and childish. *yawn*
 
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In a way, pointing out that you have someone on ignore defeats at least part of the purpose.

I usually tell the person once that I put them on ignore and try to never respond to them again. If I'm feeling adventurous, sometimes I view his or her comments, but rarely respond.
 
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In today's day and age, you never know when someone is going to swing a cane and go down like a house of cards or pull out a gun and shoot you (or chew your face off for that matter). When someone is disturbed, you never take chances.

My mom lives next to a paranoid schizo. Every so often the lady calls the cops on my mom or screams at her. My mom, being the incredibly personable and genuinely nice person she is, has made attempts to reduce the tension and become more friendly with her. I have warned my mom a number of times to not go near the lady. If she comes into possession of a weapon, who knows what could happen. I say, if someone is butt-*** naked and clearly disturbed, tase the hell out of them.
 
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