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Nice Planet 2010

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amherstblackbear said:
Jamal is still around?

I don't think I've heard about that guy since Rage Against the Machine went on hiatus...
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Yeah. He's only 56, however the steam has gone out of the movement to free him, possibly because the Supreme Court upheld his conviction. However there are still websites dedicated to freeing him. Me? I'd be happy to administer the injection that frees him once and for all.
 
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I'm not a huge death penalty guy, but I'm not for banning it either.

I remember people trying to get me to care about the guy's cause in college. But that was Wesleyan. Back then, if you weren't protesting something, you weren't trying. My least favorite part about the place. They ran out of good causes after South Africa, but it was useless arguing the point. The one time I got into it, I proposed protesting the administration's plan to end need-blind admissions. I got blank stares in return. It was the beginning and end of my college activism. :)
 
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amherstblackbear said:
I'm not a huge death penalty guy, but I'm not for banning it either.

I remember people trying to get me to care about the guy's cause in college. But that was Wesleyan. Back then, if you weren't protesting something, you weren't trying. My least favorite part about the place. They ran out of good causes after South Africa, but it was useless arguing the point. The one time I got into it, I proposed protesting the administration's plan to end need-blind admissions. I got blank stares in return. It was the beginning and end of my college activism. :)
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Some people need killing. In 1984 Texas was about to execute Ronald Clark O'Bryan, the "candy man," who had fatally poisoned his 8 year old son for the insurance money, by giving him cyanide laced halloween candy (run through the multiple steps of premeditation in your mind) and also doled out poisoned candy to other kids in the neighborhood to divert suspicion (fortunately, none of them ate it).

Anyway, as O'Bryan's execution approached, I did a program with Johnny Holmes, Harris County DA, and a young lawyer from the ACLU named Cantu. Mr. Cantu made all of the usual arguments against capital punishment. But during a break he turned to me and allowed that he was having a lot of difficulty working up any enthusiasm for saving this putz. Exactly.
 
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Old Pio said:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...ground-zero-killed-more-people-9-11-hijackers

Jimmy Carter's good buddy is at it again. If this guy isn't the biggest azzhole on the planet, he's certainly in the running.

Let's see: moral equivalence between McDonald's and the 9/11 highjackers. What a putz. Besides, a guy built like a Yokozuna really shouldn't comment on anyone else's dietary choices.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS...RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

And will somebody please explain to this p***k the difference between a "draftee" and a "volunteer?"
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You assume too much. He wouldn't understand.

Moore is the example of what happens when you allow an industry like the entertainment industry to build a bigger political presence than is otherwise necessary.

He's a moron. I still haven't seen any of his movies nor will I ever.
 
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Priceless said:
Rotting in a prison cell is noble? :confused:
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Sure it is, you can sit there and say how you took your shot for the cause... it takes a special kind of crazy to die for the cause... most people aren't that crazy... they want to be worshiped by others... not be gratified by the abstract.

As for this case, you're dealing with people who have lived nearly an entire life in general comfort... these aren't people who die for a cause... prison... eh, they'll chance it... but die for it? No siree, that's for other people.

Mumia abu Jamal is a good point... i mean, he's written books and broadcast radio from behind bars... all in the name of some form of racial crazy (IIRC)... yeah, he might have been high as kite when he killed Officer Faulkner... but it hasn't exactly been an inglorious existence in prison.

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To understand Mikey Moore... he has rejected the system as immoral and envisions a perfect moral system... nevermind the details, he just presumes it should exist and you're in the way of it.
 
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theprofromdover said:
Nah. Let's start with giving him 57 fractures and then we don't shoot him.
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Agreed. Old Pio annecdote alert:

Back in the 80's in Houston they had the worst case of child abuse that they'd ever seen. The boy's name was Tommy Lott. He was 5. And a beautiful blond blue eyed kid. His torture included cigarette burns on his scrotum (that was the worst of it, but by no means all). A 25-year Houston homicide detetective broke down in tears as he was entering the pictures and reports into evidence.

Since the torturer (Tommy's mother's boy friend) had not committed capital murder, he didn't face the death penalty. He was sentenced to life in the TDC where some of us were satisfied that if this skinny, youthful white guy and deviant sociopath was into "unusual" sexual practices, he would get his fill (you should pardon the expression) and then some.
 
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http://www.startribune.com/nation/1...D8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUycaEacyUs

When do we get to kill him? Please let it be soon, because I would love to have a beer in celebration of this piece of ****'s death. Also, how the hell can an organization like the UN even give this trash somewhere to speak, I thought they were supposed to be for good in the world. I see no reason to continue to be associated with them if this is the BS that they allow.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
http://www.startribune.com/nation/1...D8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUycaEacyUs

When do we get to kill him? Please let it be soon, because I would love to have a beer in celebration of this piece of ****'s death. Also, how the hell can an organization like the UN even give this trash somewhere to speak, I thought they were supposed to be for good in the world. I see no reason to continue to be associated with them if this is the BS that they allow.
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Even though he will stall a reckoning with that "government" as long as he can, even BO may find himself having to confront them. I look forward to us demonstrating the efficacy of those 30K pound Massive Ordinance Penetrators, dropped from B-2's.

As for the UN, unless and until we get 50 votes in the General Assembly (one for each of our STATES--the same deal the Soviets had) I see no reason for us to continue fronting 25% of the operating costs of what somebody today described as the world's largest hot air balloon.

As they used to say in the John Birch Society days: Get the US out of the UN and get the UN out of the US.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Also, how the hell can an organization like the UN even give this trash somewhere to speak, I thought they were supposed to be for good in the world. I see no reason to continue to be associated with them if this is the BS that they allow.
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What are you talking about? Ban Ki-moon said it right there in the article, "Let us remember, the world still looks to the United Nations for moral and political leadership."

Yeah, right.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
http://www.startribune.com/nation/1...D8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUycaEacyUs

When do we get to kill him? Please let it be soon, because I would love to have a beer in celebration of this piece of ****'s death. Also, how the hell can an organization like the UN even give this trash somewhere to speak, I thought they were supposed to be for good in the world. I see no reason to continue to be associated with them if this is the BS that they allow.
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I long for the days when the CIA would just assassinate ******* leaders.
 
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collegehcky2 said:
I long for the days when the CIA would just assassinate ******* leaders.
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honestly, there would have to be a way to get to him that would make it look like it wasn't a direct assassination. Maybe spray the area around his compound with anthrax. That or shart having our commandos go in and putting the head of his favorate goat in bed with him, Godfather style.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
honestly, there would have to be a way to get to him that would make it look like it wasn't a direct assassination. Maybe spray the area around his compound with anthrax. That or shart having our commandos go in and putting the head of his favorate goat in bed with him, Godfather style.
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I love the way the Israelis do it. They've got guys dressed up as women, hiding explosives in the bad guys' cell phones or head rests. "Hello. . .(kaboom)"

I sincerely hope we've be taking some of these people out since 9/11--"What happened to Ahmed? Well, he went out to get some cous cous and never came back."

Let's hope we've improved since the Kennedys tried to take out Castro with "Operation Mongoose."
 
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