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NHL 2021: I Pledge Allegiance to Gritty

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Jimjamesak said:
Toews: Stan and Al are good guys.

Tell me you’re from Winnipeg and went to North Dakota without telling me you’re from Winnipeg and went to North Dakota.
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He knew and kept quiet about it, too - lots of Hawks players at the time knew. It was joked about in the locker room and some players were teased about visiting Aldrich afterhours. The whole culture is just sick.

If you're a current player, do you still trust Toews to be captain? If so, why? Because he's got three Cup rings? Was that really worth his silence on this when it might have prevented further assaults?
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
If you're a current player, do you still trust Toews to be captain? If so, why? Because he's got three Cup rings? Was that really worth his silence on this when it might have prevented further assaults?
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He was just finishing his second season as Captain and was 22 years old. He's also two years away from having his own "cover up" for crashing into the L supports leaving his loop apartment going to morning practice (2012). And Kane will have his Madison excursion that summer as well (2012)



I am not making excuses, but Toews is now a 33 year old with a decade of experience and maturity. But to answer your question: No, I really don't.
 
aparch said:
He was just finishing his second season as Captain and was 22 years old. He's also two years away from having his own "cover up" for crashing into the L supports leaving his loop apartment going to morning practice (2012). And Kane will have his Madison excursion that summer as well (2012)



I am not making excuses, but Toews is now a 33 year old with a decade of experience and maturity. But to answer your question: No, I really don't.
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Had he said it in 2012, you would have a point. But he's had a decade to get experience and maturity, and somehow it was ok for these guys to not do anything for sexual assault a decade ago. Normally, that kind of time would give time to reflect and see that it was wrong and people need to be held responsible- but instead he kicks his teammate in the nuts that winning and celebrating the cup was more important than a sexual assault.

And that does not even include Toews own experiences.
 
MichVandal said:
Had he said it in 2012, you would have a point. But he's had a decade to get experience and maturity, and somehow it was ok for these guys to not do anything for sexual assault a decade ago. Normally, that kind of time would give time to reflect and see that it was wrong and people need to be held responsible- but instead he kicks his teammate in the nuts that winning and celebrating the cup was more important than a sexual assault.

And that does not even include Toews own experiences.
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It didn't come out quite right, but I agree with you and DGF. That why I said I wouldn't trust him as Captain.

The culture that they "matured" in is why I pointed out the two incidents.
 
Cheveldayoff will not be punished.

“While on some level, it would be easiest to paint everyone with any association to this terrible matter with the same broad brush, I believe that fundamental fairness requires a more in-depth analysis of the role of each person,” said Commissioner Gary Bettman. “Kevin Cheveldayoff was not a member of the Blackhawks senior leadership team in 2010, and I cannot, therefore, assign to him responsibility for the Club’s actions, or inactions. He provided a full account of his degree of involvement in the matter, which was limited exclusively to his attendance at a single meeting, and I found him to be extremely forthcoming and credible in our discussion.”



As the Jenner & Block Report, subsequent review by the League this week, and today’s interview with Cheveldayoff make clear, Cheveldayoff’s participation at the May 23, 2010, meeting involving senior leaders from the Blackhawks’ management team was extremely limited in scope and substance. In fact, in the course of the investigation, most of the participants in the May 23 meeting did not initially recall that Cheveldayoff was even present.



As an Assistant General Manager at the time, Cheveldayoff, who reported directly to Stan Bowman, was the lowest ranking Club official in the room, and his position included no oversight responsibilities over the Club’s coaching staff. He was among the last to be included in the meeting; he was learning of the subject matter for the first time in the presence of his boss (then-GM Stan Bowman), his boss’ boss (then-CEO John McDonough) and the Head Coach (Joel Quenneville), who was Brad Aldrich’s direct superior; he had limited familiarity with the personnel involved; and he was essentially an observer to the discussion of possible next steps, which discussion, apparently, ended with Cheveldayoff believing that the matter was going to be investigated.



Cheveldayoff’s role within the Blackhawks’ organization at the time not only left him without authority to make appropriate organizational decisions relating to this matter, but as importantly, he was not thereafter even in a position to have sufficient information to assess whether or not the matter was being adequately addressed by the Blackhawks. In short, Cheveldayoff was not a participant in either the formulation or execution of the Club’s response.
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Eichel is out of Buffalo. Headed to Vegas. Buffalo gets Payton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 22 1st round, 23 3rd round. .

And it sounds like Eichel gets the surgery he wants.


Terrible trade for Vegas. I can't believe they parted with Tuch.
 
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aparch said:
Eichel is out of Buffalo. Headed to Vegas. Buffalo gets Reilly Smith, Payton Krebs, Alex Tuch, Chandler Stephenson, 22 1st round, 23 3rd round. .

And it sounds like Eichel gets the surgery he wants.


Terrible trade for Vegas. I can't believe they parted with Tuch.
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Stick a fork in Vegas. They're done. Good riddance as well.
 
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