NESCAC '15-'16 season

[obserbear]

Re: NESCAC '15-'16 season

Bowdoin@Williams-Ephs sweep
Trinity@Conn College-split
Colby@Wesleyan-Colby sweep
Middlebury@Amherst-split

Had the opportunity to watch the hit Lake Forest's #4 made on Ms. Mandigo and you would probably get a fine and suspension for such an infraction in the NHL (and there would be a video review exclusive of the on ice officials missing the call). A shameful, willful intent to injure!

 

[HockeyEast33]

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Had the opportunity to watch the hit Lake Forest's #4 made on Ms. Mandigo and you would probably get a fine and suspension for such an infraction in the NHL (and there would be a video review exclusive of the on ice officials missing the call). A shameful, willful intent to injure!

Lesperance - Lake Forest's leading penalty taker last 2 seasons and #2 as a sophomore (barely played as a freshman) - a penalty a game so far this season.

 

[CrossCheck]

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Lesperance - Lake Forest's leading penalty taker last 2 seasons and #2 as a sophomore (barely played as a freshman) - a penalty a game so far this season.

didn't see it, but seems like something to be looked into...perhaps by the LF coach if nothing else.

Did anything happen earlier in the game that might explain this? Mandigo is a big kid and not exactly a shrinking violet when it comes to contact herself...was this a retaliation for something that happened earlier? [not that it makes it right, but could explain why it happened]

 

[HockeyEast33]

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didn't see it, but seems like something to be looked into...perhaps by the LF coach if nothing else.

Did anything happen earlier in the game that might explain this? Mandigo is a big kid and not exactly a shrinking violet when it comes to contact herself...was this a retaliation for something that happened earlier? [not that it makes it right, but could explain why it happened]

Didn't see Katie do anything during the game but I also wasn't watching her all game either - she is big and physical but I've not observed her being what I would consider dirty (only had 3 penalties last season). There was a play earlier in the third period where a Middlebury player (not Mandigo - smaller) clearly checked a LF player on the boards (clean check, not dirty, but of course not legal) that should have been a penalty and then a similar play in reverse about a minute later resulted in a LF penalty to ... you guessed it ... Lesperance (her second penalty of the game). Thinking about it now, I think the uncalled Middlebury check really set LF off because they took three penalties in the next 6 minutes, all of the checking/slashing variety (and they were all definitely penalties). The Mandigo injury happened after the first 2 LF penalties I think. In retrospect I would say LF lost their composure.

 

[CrossCheck]

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Didn't see Katie do anything during the game but I also wasn't watching her all game either - she is big and physical but I've not observed her being what I would consider dirty (only had 3 penalties last season). There was a play earlier in the third period where a Middlebury player (not Mandigo - smaller) clearly checked a LF player on the boards (clean check, not dirty, but of course not legal) that should have been a penalty and then a similar play in reverse about a minute later resulted in a LF penalty to ... you guessed it ... Lesperance (her second penalty of the game). Thinking about it now, I think the uncalled Middlebury check really set LF off because they took three penalties in the next 6 minutes, all of the checking/slashing variety (and they were all definitely penalties). The Mandigo injury happened after the first 2 LF penalties I think. In retrospect I would say LF lost their composure.

Sounds like a good explanation...

I looked up this Lesperance...she certainly does get her fair share of PM's, no doubt about that. But she also gets more than her fair share of goals and assists...doesn't seem to fit the typical "goon" stereotype. Perhaps just a hothead?

 

[bearcat]

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And there's one...maybe two officials looking right at it. I think they have a future in the NFL!

 

[CrossCheck]

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Middlebury @ Amherst Amherst sweeps

Trinity @ Connecticut College Split

Colby @ Wesleyan Colby sweeps

Bowdoin @ Williams Williams sweeps

Hamilton vs. St. Mike's and
Plymouth State Hamilton wins both

Amherst gets 3 pts vs the Panthers
Conn and Trinity split
Colby sweeps a game and feisty Wesly
Bowdoin gets swept by Williams
Hamilton wins 2 vs. Little Sisters of the Poor....

 

[HockeyEast33]

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And there's one...maybe two officials looking right at it. I think they have a future in the NFL!

Mandigo not dressed for tonight's Middlebury-Amherst game according to the game sheet online. That's too bad for her and Middlebury.

 

[obserbear]

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Mandigo not dressed for tonight's Middlebury-Amherst game according to the game sheet online. That's too bad for her and Middlebury.

Harkening back to "the Fluke incident" in late 2014, Coach Mandigo did not allow her to dress until the injured Norwich D Ms. Guay was cleared to play. As you may recall the Panther season ended before that happened. I wonder if Lake Forest #4 is in action this weekend? She did play in the Lake Forest game against St. Michaels.

 

[Mucker44]

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Lesperance assisted on first LFC goal and spent 2 in the bin for hooking vs. SMC the night following the Middlebury game

 

[obserbear]

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Amherst and Middlebury have certainly played some great games over the years but I have to really think back to remember one as exciting as this afternoon's 3-3 match at Orr!
The 1st saw end to end action with no scoring by either side. The Panthers finally got on the board with Jackson pinching off an Amherst breakout on the right wing half boards. Winslow scooped up the puck and got it to Young who had some space, walked off the side boards on her forehand and beat Amherst goalie Dobbins low with a wrist shot. The Purple and White answered with a powerplay goal minutes later. Ryan held the puck in zone on the boards at left point, walked in and launch a waist high slap shot deftly deflected in from the stickside of the crease by Hunyadi, the puck just eluding Panther goalie Neuberger's grasp off her glove to the gloveside. The 3rd saw Amherst's Martin demonstrate why she is regarded as one of the NESCAC's most dangerous forwards. Taking the puck from the neutral zone past both benches she shifted into center crossing the blueline, made a toe drag and a step inside and was suddenly in the slot launching a backhand. Neuberger made the save but the puck deflected perhaps 10' in the air, she couldn't find it and both she and the puck ended up across the goal line. Highlight reel stuff for sure. Amherst ran the lead to 2 with a perfectly executed 2x1. Herzog sprang Pantera from the neutral zone down left wing. Pantera took her time and got in below the dots before slipping the puck across to Greise for a one timer forehand beating Neuberger up stickside. The Panthers then mounted a furious comeback. They drew within 1 with Sherman getting the puck up the half boards to Laven on left point. Her slap shot was deflected at the gloveside of the crease by Hickman cutting the lead to 3-2. Middlebury then scored a powerplay goal to tie. The Panthers took a timeout when the penalty was called and then coolly took their time controlling the puck on the outside getting set up. Winslow passed the puck from the left wing circle to Young on the point. Young had space to walk in and her drive was saved by Dobbins' left pad only to have Wulf scoop it into the open net up to Dobbins' gloveside.
The 4x4 OT was frantic. The Purple and White's Harris got in alone behind the D only to be denied on a point blank glove save by Neuberger as Harris attempted to beat her to the short gloveside. Dobbins then stymied a Panther 2x1 with Wulf taking a shot from low in the right circle and Dobbins diving into the scrum to control the puck. Middlebury's Young then rang iron from the top of the left circle on a rocket forehand with :20 to play but the horn sounded and the 3-3 score stood.
Both teams have 10 NESCAC games remaining and interestingly both face the same 5 conference foes over the 10 games. Amherst maintains a slim lead at 4-0-2 while the Panthers are close behind at 3-0-3.

 

[bearcat]

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Bowdoin@Williams-Ephs sweep
Trinity@Conn College-split
Colby@Wesleyan-Colby sweep
Middlebury@Amherst-split

Had the opportunity to watch the hit Lake Forest's #4 made on Ms. Mandigo and you would probably get a fine and suspension for such an infraction in the NHL (and there would be a video review exclusive of the on ice officials missing the call). A shameful, willful intent to injure!

Another typical weekend in the Nesss....not sure which is more surprising: The Wesleyan win, the Williams loss, the Midd ties or the Conn Sweep.

Thoughts?

 

[pucko]

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Lesperance assisted on first LFC goal and spent 2 in the bin for hooking vs. SMC the night following the Middlebury game

I find it interesting that as much as Lesperance is talked about, no one on this forum is saying much (or anything at all) about the player from Middlebury who hit a Lake Forest player into the boards during the 2nd period and who then had to be helped off the ice. No call on the play and the player from LF never returned to the game. I checked Lake Forest's lineup and she has not played since. Based on statistics, she looks to be one of their top scorers and is also a senior.

 

[obserbear]

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Another typical weekend in the Nesss....not sure which is more surprising: The Wesleyan win, the Williams loss, the Midd ties or the Conn Sweep.

Thoughts?

I think the Williams loss after handing the Polar Bears such a shellacking on Friday is my biggest surprise. Did anyone see the Colby@Wesleyan series? Again, 3-0 shutout Friday and a 6-3, by NESCAC standards, shootout Saturday. Who would have guessed defending conference champ Trinity goes 0-6 in conference to start their title defense? I watched both Middlebury@Amherst games and they both could have gone either way. The Saturday game has to go down as a classic, with the action and intensity rising all the way up to Young rattling iron with :20 to play in OT!
Two big games tomorrow with Amherst traveling all the way out to Pine Valley and Middlebury crossing the Lake to face the Red Army. Would love for either or both to come home with a win, but I am not about to bet the ranch on it. GO U NESCACs!!!

 

[HockeyEast33]

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I find it interesting that as much as Lesperance is talked about, no one on this forum is saying much (or anything at all) about the player from Middlebury who hit a Lake Forest player into the boards during the 2nd period and who then had to be helped off the ice. No call on the play and the player from LF never returned to the game. I checked Lake Forest's lineup and she has not played since. Based on statistics, she looks to be one of their top scorers and is also a senior.

Watched the game on video and didn't see it. As I mentioned in my post (did you read it?), I saw a Middlebury check along the boards (not far from the LF bench) but I'm pretty sure it was in the third period and the LF player appeared to get right up. Who is the LF player and when did it happen? Also, was it an intentional hit to the head like the LF hit on Mandigo or was it something else? And finally, did Mandigo deliver the hit?

As a note, in the three LF games since the Middlebury game, Lesperance has taken 4 penalties including a high-sticking and checking penalty in one game against St Mary's - that doesn't help her case as an innocent - seems to be a pattern. BTW - Lake Forest also took a bench unsportsmanlike conduct penalty with less then 2 minutes left and the score 2-1 in the same St. Mary's game - referees generally go out of their way not to make that call - so based on this small sample size it would appear that some of the LF players might have some self-control issues.

 

[HockeyEast33]

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I think the Williams loss after handing the Polar Bears such a shellacking on Friday is my biggest surprise. Did anyone see the Colby@Wesleyan series? Again, 3-0 shutout Friday and a 6-3, by NESCAC standards, shootout Saturday. Who would have guessed defending conference champ Trinity goes 0-6 in conference to start their title defense? I watched both Middlebury@Amherst games and they both could have gone either way. The Saturday game has to go down as a classic, with the action and intensity rising all the way up to Young rattling iron with :20 to play in OT!
Two big games tomorrow with Amherst traveling all the way out to Pine Valley and Middlebury crossing the Lake to face the Red Army. Would love for either or both to come home with a win, but I am not about to bet the ranch on it. GO U NESCACs!!!

I'm not as shocked by Trinity's troubles as your are, but I did expect them to do better than this. They won a lot of games last year they were outshot in and that is a hard trend to keep up and they lost their coach. But I did expect them to get at least 1 win against CC. The first Williams game was a simple case of bus legs - Bowdoin goalie has a tendency to give a goal and then a couple more in quick succession. The Bowdoin team didn't skate in the first game, gave up some early goals, and it quickly cascaded out of control. Saturday game was a way better indication of where the two teams are at - decided by an unfortunate double deflection that went off the inside of the diving William's goalie stick and trickled into the net. Suspect Coach O'Neill had some not very complimentary things to say to her player after the first game.

 

[pucko]

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Watched the game on video and didn't see it. As I mentioned in my post (did you read it?), I saw a Middlebury check along the boards (not far from the LF bench) but I'm pretty sure it was in the third period and the LF player appeared to get right up. Who is the LF player and when did it happen? Also, was it an intentional hit to the head like the LF hit on Mandigo or was it something else? And finally, did Mandigo deliver the hit?

As a note, in the three LF games since the Middlebury game, Lesperance has taken 4 penalties including a high-sticking and checking penalty in one game against St Mary's - that doesn't help her case as an innocent - seems to be a pattern. BTW - Lake Forest also took a bench unsportsmanlike conduct penalty with less then 2 minutes left and the score 2-1 in the same St. Mary's game - referees generally go out of their way not to make that call - so based on this small sample size it would appear that some of the LF players might have some self-control issues.

Lake Forest is 40th out of 58 teams for total penalty minutes. I think you should do your research before you label them a certain way and based on the chatter about the referees in the Middlebury/Lake Forest game, I'm surprised to hear you say that referees may actually do some thinking about their calls. And the LF player was injured at some point during the 2nd period.

 

[obserbear]

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Lake Forest is 40th out of 58 teams for total penalty minutes. I think you should do your research before you label them a certain way and based on the chatter about the referees in the Middlebury/Lake Forest game, I'm surprised to hear you say that referees may actually do some thinking about their calls. And the LF player was injured at some point during the 2nd period.

Are you saying Ms. Paluch's injury was caused by a malicious action that was intended to injure? I watched the hit on Ms. Mandigo a number of times and it is not possible to view it as anything but a cheap, head hunting shot.

 

[CrossCheck]

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Lake Forest is 40th out of 58 teams for total penalty minutes. I think you should do your research before you label them a certain way and based on the chatter about the referees in the Middlebury/Lake Forest game, I'm surprised to hear you say that referees may actually do some thinking about their calls. And the LF player was injured at some point during the 2nd period.

I think the discussion was about a particular PLAYER with a problem...not the entire TEAM. After watching that hit, it's pretty clear it was intentional. Should have been a suspension.

 

[gojackets]

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I think the discussion was about a particular PLAYER with a problem...not the entire TEAM. After watching that hit, it's pretty clear it was intentional. Should have been a suspension.

Lesperance has 12 penalties on the year, in 15 games. She also has 6 in the last 4. While it might seem like a lot, there are several players, especially out west that are in the 10-15 penalties range on the year. She's also on their top line and is fairly aggressive, so penalties happen. To say she is a dirty player is stupid.

My guess is Mandigo checked/injured their player and went unpunished so they punished her. Is it right, no...but it happens.