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NESCAC '15-'16 season

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hockey4u said:
Explanation was that the ref "saw" the puck go over the line, which clearly was a lie since they wouldn't have had the teams lined up for a defensive zone face off after fixing the net. I have also heard two of the officials from that game have been suspended(???)
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Exactly. If you saw it go over the line then the next faceoff is at center ice, at least that's as far as most of us have learned over the years. Maybe in Mandigoland you get a free faceoff in the offensive zone after you score a goal as a bonus! Awesome!

I'd be interested to hear definitively if any of those refs have been suspended from further playoff games.
 
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gojackets said:
The only time i've ever seen a goal awarded it was obvious. It was in a Superior men's game, it was late in the game and Superior was up by 1. The other team was in the process of pulling their goalie...goalie was halfway over the boards when a UWS player stole the puck and had a breakaway. The goalie jumped back on the ice and essentially tripped/tackled the UWS player. The ref awarded UWS a goal because it was blatantly obvious that he would have scored on the empty net had the goalie not done that. I don't think its that cut and dry here.
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This same exact thing happened a few weeks ago in the NHL in the outdoor Wild-Blackhawks game. Chicago had pulled their goalie. A Wild player got control of the puck and was in front of the closest Blackhawk, who checked/tripped him from behind. The referee called a penalty shot and then awarded a goal because it was an empty net. Knew it was a rule but had never seen it called before.
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
This same exact thing happened a few weeks ago in the NHL in the outdoor Wild-Blackhawks game. Chicago had pulled their goalie. A Wild player got control of the puck and was in front of the closest Blackhawk, who checked/tripped him from behind. The referee called a penalty shot and then awarded a goal because it was an empty net. Knew it was a rule but had never seen it called before.
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What does that have to do with the Middlebury "goal"? Not even a remotely close scenario. Middlebury player had already taken the shot and the Amherst goalie saved it as the players went crashing into the net. #21 from Amherst then cleared the puck to the corner? Grasping at straws with posts about some obscure rule. Doesn't apply in this situation.
 
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As many of you may know, I was a goal judge at Plattsburgh State games for several years. I've even done a couple of National Championship games (men and women). If the goal judge was consulted during the conversations after the phantom goal, I suggest the officials were not calling that the goal was forced off to prevent a goal. The goal judge wouldn't be involved in that conversation. Our sole responsibility was whether the puck crossed the line or not. Nothing more, nothing less.

Does anyone know whether the NESCAC brings in full-time officials to be goal judges for the playoffs? SUNYAC has done it for several years and the ECAC West (and the NCAA) has been doing it recently as well... Were the goal judges "locals" or full-time officials?
 
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hockey4u said:
What does that have to do with the Middlebury "goal"? Not even a remotely close scenario. Middlebury player had already taken the shot and the Amherst goalie saved it as the players went crashing into the net. #21 from Amherst then cleared the puck to the corner? Grasping at straws with posts about some obscure rule. Doesn't apply in this situation.
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I used it as an example of a time I saw an awarded goal...saying that is a clear cut application of the rule. I know the ref said he saw the puck cross the line, but according to the rule the whistle shouldn't have been blown because the Amherst players knocked the net off, not a Middlebury player. Anyways...It was just an example.
 
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hockey4u said:
What does that have to do with the Middlebury "goal"? Not even a remotely close scenario. Middlebury player had already taken the shot and the Amherst goalie saved it as the players went crashing into the net. #21 from Amherst then cleared the puck to the corner? Grasping at straws with posts about some obscure rule. Doesn't apply in this situation.
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Nothing. I was responding to GoJackets post about a similar situation. It was not lost on me that it's not the same scenario since I saw both events...
 
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UMass-Boston rolled into Kenyon this afternoon looking for a second upset win and a ticket to the NCAA DIII finals. Had they been asked to script the afternoon they probably would have been very pleased to look at the scoreboard at the end of the 2nd and see they trailed Middlebury 1-0. Despite being outplayed and outshot their goal tender, Myette, was proving to be all she was touted, or very stingy with what she was giving up. Good things rarely happen when you allow an upset minded opponent to hang tough late into a game. The Panthers showed what they are made of and came out strong to start they 3rd and pull away for the 4-0 final.
Myette opened some eyes in the 1st with a breakaway stuff of VanKula and an odd rush thwarting of Young. Neuberger, in net for the Panthers, did her part stopping a good look by the Beacons' Embry from in close around 5:30 of the period.
Middlebury finally got on the board with a powerplay goal midway in the 2nd. The Beacons had cleared play from their zone, Wardwell gathered the puck, advanced to Marotta on the left into the neutral zone; Marotta fed ahead to Winslow and she worked to the top of the left circle and beat Myette with a quick wrist shot up gloveside.
The 3rd saw the Panthers pull away quickly. Hlinka grabbed a Beacon clearing pass out of the left corner, had a bit of space and beat Myette 5 hole from low in the circle. Minutes later Hlinka dug the puck from the left corner and passed to Wardwell at the point; Wardwell launched a slapshot that Winslow deflected from the top of the crease in up to Myette's gloveside. The Panthers closed the scoring with another powerplay goal. Young dropped the puck to Winslow in the left circle, she had space, took her time and handcuffed Myette with a wrist shot from low in the circle; Wulf pouncing on the rebound for the finish from the right of the crease.
The win earns the Panthers a trip to the finals Friday afternoon against Plattsburgh at Stafford Arena. Hope to see you all there.
 
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"And so we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past..." Apologies to FSF
Thanks for all the memories and your dedication and sacrifice to provide them to us. You know who you are!
 
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obserbear said:
"And so we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past..." Apologies to FSF
Thanks for all the memories and your dedication and sacrifice to provide them to us. You know who you are!
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So...... did Mandigo retire?
 
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