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NCHA 10-11.....**** You St. Norbert

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After watching St. Norbert play..... does anyone else feel the 'Saint' should be omitted from thier name? lol

You mean like this?

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Knowing Nbound and many of the Point parents that post here, I'm going to wait to see what he has to say. My daughter quit a while ago. Some had to do with the coaching communication, some with the way the program was being run. That's all I'll say. Overall I think many of the issues relate directly back to having a young coach. Will she get better over time. Hopefully. And I agree - great school with a lot to offer.
 
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You mean like this?

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First off...is that girl OK?

Secondly, does NCAA have a Colin Campbell? I can't say I have ever heard or seen where a player has been suspended in Women's College Hockey due to an on ice infraction. Am I wrong?
 
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First off...is that girl OK?

Secondly, does NCAA have a Colin Campbell? I can't say I have ever heard or seen where a player has been suspended in Women's College Hockey due to an on ice infraction. Am I wrong?

I hope she's all right.

Assuming that's the St.N - Concordia game:

SNB-7 (5-Roughing) CNW 3x8 11:31
SNB-8 (10-Game Disqualification)

Overall, through 11 games, SNC has 72 penalties for 155 minutes, compared to their opponents' 71/142.
 
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I’ll take on nbound’s comments point by point:

“The gag order is no longer in effect.” Thank God. I thought I might not live long enough to witness the end of the reign of terror.

“When Go Jackets heard from a source that Ann Ninnemann would destroy Stevens Point within 5 yrs his source wasn't far from the truth.” This is a joke, right? I pondered who “Deep Throat” might be and my imagination got the best of me. Picture this: It’s closing time at the Anchor Inn and Jackets is wobbling on his stool when an imaginary SP alum staggers in from the cold. The vision explains that he is deeply imbedded in the workings of the Point program and convinces the vulnerable Jackets that the end of the world is near. Back to reality: Only another disgruntled SP parent would forge an alliance with the Jacket lover. And if it feeds the BS engine, it must be the truth. Two things are for sure: 1. Jackets, admirably, has an undying allegiance to his team. 2. He is far from an authority on the intricacies of the game of hockey and the UW Superior program. Most certainly he is not an authority on the Pointer program.

“This is the first year of Ann Ninnemann having a team that 100% hers. All of Brian Idalski's players are now gone.” Coach Ninnemann was hand picked by Brian Idalski to succeed him. She was his captain and was an assistant coach in 2005-2006. He was heavily recruited to DI that previous summer and knew he would be leaving the following year. Not only did he and coach Dakins mentor Ann, she was assigned the responsibility of recruiting immediately after her last season. And, if you know anything about the recruiting process, you know that the captains of the team are heavily involved with courting recruits when they come to visit. So Ann had a lot to do with helping recruit Idalski’s players in previous years.

“One defenseman from this years recruiting class has quit the team, So has an upperclassman.” Happens all the time. Take a good look at Idalski’s rosters over the years and you will see turn-over. It happens for many different reasons. Some are the coach’s decision. Some are the player’s decision. Many are due to lack of playing time and disillusioned players / parents because they are not realistic about their abilities and/or the expectations in college hockey. Also, many players are not actually “recruited”. They come on board in tryout mode and do not realize that every single day is a tryout. I am fairly confident that your daughter was not “recruited” and I know for a fact that you and her had unrealistic expectations. I remember you stating that your daughter deserved a regular shift simply because she was a sophomore at the time but freshman were getting the playing time.

“Her first year of coaching was a breeze and the players made her look good. 2006-2007 She had had no recruits. All the players were recruited by Idalski. Inspite of her coaching abilities they went 20-7-2 and took third at the NCAA's ”. Sure was a breeze. She took over for a legend, lost 3 outstanding seniors from the previous year, had 7 freshman (no recruits?) and 2 seniors on the team and led them to 3rd in the nation. I’m sure you could have done that. These are all ignorant comments.

“Since Ninnemann took over the head coaching position at Steven Point in 2006-2007,5 of Idalskis payers quit or left the program. During her first three years of recruiting she recruited and brought into the program 22 players. Of that,10 have quit ! That's a whopping 0.455 % Who knows how many more will be leaving after the break or end of the year? Does the name Bart Star ring a bell in coaching circles? “ First of all, get some math lessons from your intelligent daughter. 0.455% is expressed as less than ½ of 1%. Your calculation is 45.5%. And if your “whopping” math was even close to correct, Point would currently be fielding about 10 players. The NCHA has nearly doubled in size since Idalski left. That makes recruiting twice as hard and is what Coach Ninnemann is now dealing with. You’re a big help. Did you help Bart Starr too? Geez.

Here’s my bottom line:

In 3 ½ years, your daughter has been a bench player, at best. As related to ability, this is neither your daughter’s, or the coaches, fault. It is what it is. Attitude is a different story.

You are not in touch with reality and you are blaming the coaching staff. You have been upset with the lack of playing time for more than 3 years. Because of this, you ooze negativity and feed off of anyone who feels they are in the same situation, or has an axe to grind (Jackets). This, unfortunately, has been imparted to your daughter. I believe she was suspended for the NCHA playoffs 2 years ago due to “conduct detrimental to the team”.

You think you know how to run this fine organization better than the staff. Now you have decided to hurt the team anyway you can. It does not matter that Ann Ninnemann and Craig Dakins are dedicated, competent, and solid citizens that act in the best interests of the Pointer program. You have been wronged, and you will get even.

So you air it out on the forum and YOU are going to the AD. You needed to let go when your daughter 1st walked into that locker room. And if issues need to be addressed, they should be addressed by your daughter.

You are right about a couple of things: Stevens Point is an excellent school and atmosphere, and there is more to life than hockey. So grow up, get a life, and let your daughter get one too. Maybe the “Trouble in Stevens Point” will disappear.
 
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“When Go Jackets heard from a source that Ann Ninnemann would destroy Stevens Point within 5 yrs his source wasn't far from the truth.” This is a joke, right? I pondered who “Deep Throat” might be and my imagination got the best of me. Picture this: It’s closing time at the Anchor Inn and Jackets is wobbling on his stool when an imaginary SP alum staggers in from the cold. The vision explains that he is deeply imbedded in the workings of the Point program and convinces the vulnerable Jackets that the end of the world is near. Back to reality: Only another disgruntled SP parent would forge an alliance with the Jacket lover. And if it feeds the BS engine, it must be the truth. Two things are for sure: 1. Jackets, admirably, has an undying allegiance to his team. 2. He is far from an authority on the intricacies of the game of hockey and the UW Superior program. Most certainly he is not an authority on the Pointer program.

First of all, I quit drinking at the Anchor Inn in like 2003 when Mel quit, cuz I didn't get triple shots or free drinks anymore...and its too expensive to drink there! I pretty much take offense to everything else you said. Clearly you and nbound hate eachother. As I have said, I've heard the same things nbound has said from 3 or 4 different people, not just him. But you stay up there on your high horse spouting off your remarks like some all knowing Stevens Point---hockey god. Lets all bow down to the all power WatchDawg!! Oh Please Sir...have mercy on my soul. I'll throw my prediction out here...but of course I have no hockey knowledge...Points final record this year will be 14-11, maybe 14-10-1. If her defensemen keep dropping, it could be worse.

Ninneman's 4 seasons
20-7-2
22-3-2
16-6-6
13-11-3

Looks like my "imaginary friends" prediction hasn't been too far off.
 
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First of all, I quit drinking at the Anchor Inn in like 2003 when Mel quit, cuz I didn't get triple shots or free drinks anymore...and its too expensive to drink there! I pretty much take offense to everything else you said. Clearly you and nbound hate eachother. As I have said, I've heard the same things nbound has said from 3 or 4 different people, not just him. But you stay up there on your high horse spouting off your remarks like some all knowing Stevens Point---hockey god. Lets all bow down to the all power WatchDawg!! Oh Please Sir...have mercy on my soul. I'll throw my prediction out here...but of course I have no hockey knowledge...Points final record this year will be 14-11, maybe 14-10-1. If her defensemen keep dropping, it could be worse.

Ninneman's 4 seasons
20-7-2
22-3-2
16-6-6
13-11-3

Looks like my "imaginary friends" prediction hasn't been too far off.

Jackets,

I regret never meeting Mel – sounds like a great guy.

I don’t know how you got the idea that nbound and I hate each other. We have spent some pleasant time together and they are a nice family. Pointer hockey was not discussed because I have no respect for nbound’s opinions, attitude, and methods of communication about that subject. I would not know if he hated me. He has never expressed it. Did you get this information from one of your “sources”?

Your accolades embarrassed me and I’m sure that I am not deserving. However, at the risk of sounding pretentious, the address: “all power WatchDawg” is not the proper one. “All-Powerful Watch Dawg” would be correct. Hope you can make it to the UWSP / UWS games in February, and if you do, I’ll be happy to buy you a beer at the Center Ice Club. There will be no need to bow down, and I may even provide you with some juicy “inside information”.

I do not engage in predictions. I believe that predictions are for fools.

Here’s some food for thought: Take a good look at the records of 2 other tenured and successful coaches in the NCHA – Joe Cranston and Dan Laughlin. You will see the same trend at different points as the one you posted about Ann Ninnemann. Maybe the difference is that they did not have “ 3 or 4 different people” predicting their demise.

Check out the link below. Hope you enjoy the story.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-bears-bill-belichic20101207,0,6841875.column
 
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Jackets,

I regret never meeting Mel – sounds like a great guy.

Mel was a lady.

Anyway...maybe if we ignore it, it will go away.

On Tap for this weekend.
Friday, December 10:
St. Norbert at Marian NH 6:00 pm
Gustavus Adolphus at Wis-River Falls NC 7:05 pm
Adrian at Concordia (WI) NH 7:30 pm

Saturday, December 11:
Adrian at Concordia (WI) NH 2:00 pm
Wis-Superior at Wis-Eau Claire NH 2:00 pm
Marian at St. Norbert NH 7:00 pm
St. Scholastica at Finlandia NH 7:00 pm
St. Catherine at Wis-River Falls NC 7:05 pm

Sunday, December 12:
St. Scholastica at Finlandia NH 2:00 pm
Wis-Superior at Wis-Eau Claire NH 2:00 pm

Obviouslythe biggest games will be in River Falls. Would suspect a tie or a 1 goal win by the Falcons on Friday...judging St. Kate's early results, Falcons should win that easily.

Other than that, i'm really intrigued by the UWS/Eau Claire series. Superior needs to redeem themselves a little bit after the series with Adrian, really need to sweep this weekend.

Since I'm a fool
River Falls wins both
Superior sweeps
Adrian/Concordia split
SNC sweeps
CSS sweeps
 
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Here’s some food for thought: Take a good look at the records of 2 other tenured and successful coaches in the NCHA – Joe Cranston and Dan Laughlin. You will see the same trend at different points as the one you posted about Ann Ninnemann. Maybe the difference is that they did not have “ 3 or 4 different people” predicting their demise.

I just can't ignore it .... argh!!
Laughlins Records
19-7-1
15-8-2
22-4-2
18-6-3
22-6-1
17-8-2
18-9-2

Worst win % was .64 in his 2nd season, also has highest win % of active NCHA coaches. Idalski of course was better at .823.

I'll give ya Cranston who had a rough 3 year stretch when Amy Statz and Erin Kegley were dominating the league
 
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I just can't ignore it .... argh!!
Laughlins Records
19-7-1
15-8-2
22-4-2
18-6-3
22-6-1
17-8-2
18-9-2

Worst win % was .64 in his 2nd season, also has highest win % of active NCHA coaches. Idalski of course was better at .823.

I'll give ya Cranston who had a rough 3 year stretch when Amy Statz and Erin Kegley were dominating the league

So, for Ninnemann, coaching and recruiting is the issue. For Cranston, it was out of his control and due to outside influences, and you don't see a trend for Laughlin.

I don't know....I'm worried for you, Jackets. Laughlin's seems to be trending to destruction with the losses increasing every year.

Probably doesn't matter. We'll all be in the same boat on 12/12/12 anyway.
 
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:)
Knowing Nbound and many of the Point parents that post here, I'm going to wait to see what he has to say. My daughter quit a while ago. Some had to do with the coaching communication, some with the way the program was being run. That's all I'll say. Overall I think many of the issues relate directly back to having a young coach. Will she get better over time. Hopefully. And I agree - great school with a lot to offer.

The meeting with the AD was held with Ninnemann and the future interm AD present. MTG lasted close to an hour. Went about as expected. Many issues covered. Out of respect for the AD and the girls on the team I will not have any comments as to what is going on with the team or what went on with the coaches. Time to move on.:) Discretion is the better part of valor
 
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So, for Ninnemann, coaching and recruiting is the issue. For Cranston, it was out of his control and due to outside influences, and you don't see a trend for Laughlin.

I don't know....I'm worried for you, Jackets. Laughlin's seems to be trending to destruction with the losses increasing every year.

Probably doesn't matter. We'll all be in the same boat on 12/12/12 anyway.

I don't know how the 'Jackets will end out this year. I think they could easily be 14-10-1 or could 18-4-2. He has some promising recruits in Jenn Paul and Allison Shrift. Wierschem is pretty solid, but with shaky goaltending you never know.

I never said Ninneman had a problem with recruiting.
 
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:)

The meeting with the AD was held with Ninnemann and the future interm AD present. MTG lasted close to an hour. Went about as expected. Many issues covered. Out of respect for the AD and the girls on the team I will not have any comments as to what is going on with the team or what went on with the coaches. Time to move on.:) Discretion is the better part of valor

That is appreciated, nbound.
 
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Gojacket, I now 2 girls who went to UWSP, 1 made it 4 years, 1 made it 2 years. Then again in triple AAA she never made it more than a year playing for a coach or team! Lets see how the season plays out. We tend to forget, we as adults aren't always right, some players have every right to move on to greener pastures because there coach does not see something in them, that another coach or person does. You have another young coach at Adrian holding her own. As far as your team, if all you have are those 3 forwards, January and February will be 2 long months for them! If there goaltending is weak, I assume you are saying the D is weak also. Normally a strong D can make up for some weak goaltending. I notice 50% of the team is new, maybe they need time to gel, and play the way Coach Laughlin wants them to play. I also noticed a couple of your D are up there in points, hopefully that gives you hope! They may do better than you think. Best of Luck
 
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UWRF 4 GAC 2

Whale of a game. was tied at 1 apiece then in about 1.5 minutes GAC led 2-1, UWRF tied it and UWRF took the lead. 4th goal was at end of game with empty net. Should solidify UWRF position.
 
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UWRF 4 GAC 2

Whale of a game. was tied at 1 apiece then in about 1.5 minutes GAC led 2-1, UWRF tied it and UWRF took the lead. 4th goal was at end of game with empty net. Should solidify UWRF position.

It was a very solid game from both clubs. The officials really let both teams go out and play and several things that were likely called in other games were let go as part of a huge battle with post-season implications, called the obvious let the so-so stuff slide so they could play it hard. Real gutsy performance near the end as a Falcon was playing the penalty kill got hurt and couldn't seem to put any pressure on the one leg yet continued to disrupt shots, passes and Gustie players. Also a new attendance record set for women's hockey in RF, as well as just the third ever crowd of more than 300.

1) Dec. 10 2010 vs. GAC 402
2) Nov. 6 2006 vs. Hamline 340
3) Nov. 13 2009 vs. GAC 339
 
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I noticed Jackie McKay played only 2 games for the Blugolds this year and is no longer on the roster. I thought she was a very good player. Hope she was not injured.
 
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Hope you can make it to the UWSP / UWS games in February, and if you do, I’ll be happy to buy you a beer at the Center Ice Club. There will be no need to bow down, and I may even provide you with some juicy “inside information”.

FYI....I live in AZ now, so unless you're buying me plane tickets to come watch this series, I won't be there. Which I am more than willing to let you do of course...haha.

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Gojacket, I now 2 girls who went to UWSP, 1 made it 4 years, 1 made it 2 years. Then again in triple AAA she never made it more than a year playing for a coach or team! Lets see how the season plays out. We tend to forget, we as adults aren't always right, some players have every right to move on to greener pastures because there coach does not see something in them, that another coach or person does. You have another young coach at Adrian holding her own. As far as your team, if all you have are those 3 forwards, January and February will be 2 long months for them! If there goaltending is weak, I assume you are saying the D is weak also. Normally a strong D can make up for some weak goaltending. I notice 50% of the team is new, maybe they need time to gel, and play the way Coach Laughlin wants them to play. I also noticed a couple of your D are up there in points, hopefully that gives you hope! They may do better than you think. Best of Luck

Obviously those aren't the only three players I have. I was pointing out that some of Laughlin's young recruits are looking promising. Superior's biggest problem last year was that they couldn't get the puck in the net. If he's gotten some high scoring forwards, Superior could be dangerous the next couple years. As far as the goalies go, Peters has looked pretty solid in the games I've watched. Torgerson has looked shaky at times, but awesome at other times...so I think if she can get consistant in awesomeness that it will be ok. The upperclassmen have to realize they don't have Kunzlemann back there anymore.
 
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