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NCAA Selection Show
- Thread starter TonyTheTiger20
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: NCAA Selection Show
The trip to Anaheim and the split with Lindenwood hurt, as did forgetting that Harvard is not the Crimson of old who owned the Saints.
That was not in an auto bid. They did it based on an at large bid. The CHA did not have an auto bid at that time.
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Still Eeyore
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In addition to what's already been said, while Minnesota is an automatic qualifier based on winning the WCHA tournament, those wins also pushed them up to #5 in the PWR, so they'd be in even without the AQ. Ohio State is 6th. Cornell needed a better performance, either this weekend or at some earlier point in the season, to keep their heads above the level where BC stepping on a banana peel was enough to leave them vulnerable.
In addition to what's already been said, while Minnesota is an automatic qualifier based on winning the WCHA tournament, those wins also pushed them up to #5 in the PWR, so they'd be in even without the AQ. Ohio State is 6th. Cornell needed a better performance, either this weekend or at some earlier point in the season, to keep their heads above the level where BC stepping on a banana peel was enough to leave them vulnerable.
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: NCAA Selection Show
Ah I do enjoy this game every year although it's usually exclusively out of the west
Go to the schedule page of the home team's website, it'll be linked there.
TonyTheTiger20
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Wow, that is a really good question. My guess is no but now I'm going to dig and try to find out.
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Re: NCAA Selection Show
2017: Minnesota (played #3 Duluth as an at-large)
2016: Clarkson (played #4 Quinnipiac as an at-large)
2015: None
2014: Mercyhurst (played #2 Cornell as an at-large)
2013: Mercyhurst (played #2 Cornell as an at-large... ouch)
2012: None
2011: None
2010: Cornell (played #4 Harvard as an autobid but would have made the tournament as an at-large)
2009: Minnesota-Duluth (played #4 New Hampshire as an at-large)
2008: Wisconsin (played #4 Minnesota as an at-large)
2007: This year was nuts, all 4 underdogs almost made it with #1 Wisco needing 4OT to beat Harvard 1-0. Harvard was an autobid, but they were 6th in the Pairwise so they would have made it as an at-large anyway.
--Minnesota-Duluth (played #2 Mercyhurst as an at-large)
--Boston College (played #3 Dartmouth as an at-large)
--St. Lawrence (played #4 New Hampshire as an at-large)
In 2005 and 2006, only the top 2 teams were seeded:
2006: Doesn't look like there were any upsets
2005: St. Lawrence (played #2 Minnesota-Duluth as an at-large)
Prior to 2005, only 4 teams made the tournament.
So it looks like the answer is no. Interestingly, Cornell in 2010, and I guess Mercyhurst in 2014 although it didn't count for autobid status, are the ONLY road teams to win their quarterfinal game after having won their conference tournament. Everyone else lost in their conference tournament.
These are the teams outside the top 4 who have advanced:
2017: Minnesota (played #3 Duluth as an at-large)
2016: Clarkson (played #4 Quinnipiac as an at-large)
2015: None
2014: Mercyhurst (played #2 Cornell as an at-large)
2013: Mercyhurst (played #2 Cornell as an at-large... ouch)
2012: None
2011: None
2010: Cornell (played #4 Harvard as an autobid but would have made the tournament as an at-large)
2009: Minnesota-Duluth (played #4 New Hampshire as an at-large)
2008: Wisconsin (played #4 Minnesota as an at-large)
2007: This year was nuts, all 4 underdogs almost made it with #1 Wisco needing 4OT to beat Harvard 1-0. Harvard was an autobid, but they were 6th in the Pairwise so they would have made it as an at-large anyway.
--Minnesota-Duluth (played #2 Mercyhurst as an at-large)
--Boston College (played #3 Dartmouth as an at-large)
--St. Lawrence (played #4 New Hampshire as an at-large)
In 2005 and 2006, only the top 2 teams were seeded:
2006: Doesn't look like there were any upsets
2005: St. Lawrence (played #2 Minnesota-Duluth as an at-large)
Prior to 2005, only 4 teams made the tournament.
So it looks like the answer is no. Interestingly, Cornell in 2010, and I guess Mercyhurst in 2014 although it didn't count for autobid status, are the ONLY road teams to win their quarterfinal game after having won their conference tournament. Everyone else lost in their conference tournament.
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Thanks for not being as lazy as I am. It really shouldn't be surprising I guess but it could be that a team got hot late & just didn't play enough highly ranked opponents to break into the top 8. It might happen some year. I still like the idea of 12 teams but that would add a week and cost money both of which would not get past the NCAA currently. I don't particularly like the auto-bid deal but I can see where it could be good for the sport as a whole if every conference is at least represented. The downside is that some more deserving teams get bumped if the auto-bid team is not a challenge.
Thanks for not being as lazy as I am. It really shouldn't be surprising I guess but it could be that a team got hot late & just didn't play enough highly ranked opponents to break into the top 8. It might happen some year. I still like the idea of 12 teams but that would add a week and cost money both of which would not get past the NCAA currently. I don't particularly like the auto-bid deal but I can see where it could be good for the sport as a whole if every conference is at least represented. The downside is that some more deserving teams get bumped if the auto-bid team is not a challenge.
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You can add Mercyhurst to the list that lost in their conference tourney, but then go on to win a quarter final on the road. RIT won the CHA tourney in 2014 vs Mercyhurst. Luckily for Mercyhurst this was pre auto bid, and they still got to play #2 Cornell, in NCAAs.
So Cornell in 2010 is the only team to win their tourney and then win a road quarterfinal. Hopefully that changes this weekend.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
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Well, we have three chances ...So Cornell in 2010 is the only team to win their tourney and then win a road quarterfinal. Hopefully that changes this weekend.
TonyTheTiger20
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If I am completely objective, I am sympathetic to this. The CHA hasn’t gotten great results since getting the auto bid:
2015: 6-2 Minnesota over RIT
2016: 6-0 Wisc over Mercyhurst
2017: 7-0 Wisc over RMU
I am hopeful it will change, of course!
You’d have to look and see if there are other lopsided games in the other quarterfinals, I don’t know. My gut feel is that we’ll get decent quarter finals this year. Would not be surprised at all if a road team wins.
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ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
TonyTheTiger20
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I'm kind of shocked Shelfit ripped a division 1 coach. So out of character.
But I'm really worried about the OSU coaching staff. I figured OSU would win last week-end against MN in the most important game of the year. I mean, even 9th place Merrimack and 8th place Vermont, from a much weaker conference, could beat the Gophers in Ridder.
OSU will definitely lose all respect if they can't beat BC. Crappy #7 UConn, from a much weaker conference, is 1-1-3 against BC last five. So on paper this should be a cake walk for OSU, from a much stronger conference.
I'm kind of shocked Shelfit ripped a division 1 coach. So out of character.
But I'm really worried about the OSU coaching staff. I figured OSU would win last week-end against MN in the most important game of the year. I mean, even 9th place Merrimack and 8th place Vermont, from a much weaker conference, could beat the Gophers in Ridder.
OSU will definitely lose all respect if they can't beat BC. Crappy #7 UConn, from a much weaker conference, is 1-1-3 against BC last five. So on paper this should be a cake walk for OSU, from a much stronger conference.
Lol, correct!