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NCAA Hockey - 2023/24 **Insert Witty Tagline**

Notre Dame put out a graphic telling fans what and what not to wear in Belfast. It said no green, nothing that says Irish or Fighting Irish. No shamrocks, leprechauns, or the Ireland flag. Under what to wear, it was essentially blue and gold, the ND interlock logo, or something that’s says Notre Dame.

Well, that apparently didn’t go over well because they had to come out with this statement.
https://x.com/NDHockey/status/1858976333847818684

The best part is the jerseys they’re wearing for the event say Irish and have a shamrock.

I would wear these.

scotland-fan-wears-scarf-saying-'fuck-england'-1500w-8470349v.jpg
 
Now that he’s unemployed, I think his qualifications are perfect for a spot in Trump’s cabinet. Too bad super-qualified Linda McMahon got put in charge of education.
 
Wow... That's.... Something...

I get that things may have went sideways "in the moment" with his line of thinking, but yea, that's just bad. Dude will never be behind the bench of a women's team again.
 
Interesting question about whether / when people are desexualized in the course of work.

There are lots of circumstances here to unpack: power differential, age difference, threatening stance, abusive words, abusive physicality. Let's try to simplify them by stripping the situation down.

Say player J is female. The rest of her NOSHO team, the Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs, is male. They're all 50. Can J use the lockerroom with the guys? Can everybody get naked or not and not care? Is there a point where sex just doesn't matter, like a doctor examining a patient?

Flip the genders in the prior example. Is it different since now it reinforces a gender power difference?

Now make J a 50, M and the rest of the team 25, F. A difference? They're still all just playing hockey as teammates, not coach and players, nothing sexual is said.

Introducing abusive behavior changes things radically, but shouldn't it regardless of gender considerations?

Discuss.
 
That’s a wild thread. Even before the rumor post you’ve got people defending him, like people just resign mid series if something didn’t happen.

That's normal, though. There are cliques and folks choose sides. People defended Katey Stone and she's a monster.
 
Interesting question about whether / when people are desexualized in the course of work.

There are lots of circumstances here to unpack: power differential, age difference, threatening stance, abusive words, abusive physicality. Let's try to simplify them by stripping the situation down.

Say player J is female. The rest of her NOSHO team, the Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs, is male. They're all 50. Can J use the lockerroom with the guys? Can everybody get naked or not and not care? Is there a point where sex just doesn't matter, like a doctor examining a patient?

Flip the genders in the prior example. Is it different since now it reinforces a gender power difference?

Now make J a 50, M and the rest of the team 25, F. A difference? They're still all just playing hockey as teammates, not coach and players, nothing sexual is said.

Introducing abusive behavior changes things radically, but shouldn't it regardless of gender considerations?

Discuss.

If that situation exists, it's not a college hockey locker room. That dynamic is just too lopsided, regardless of men's or women's hockey.

in a professional or adult setting, you can work that out with all parties involved. The problem is, if the power dynamic shifts at all or one person doesn't consent, that situation can't exist and would need to stop immediately.
 
Wow... That's.... Something...

I get that things may have went sideways "in the moment" with his line of thinking, but yea, that's just bad. Dude will never be behind the bench of a women's team again.

Heh…immediately following your post was a help-wanted ad for Crew Carwash. :eek:
 
Interesting question about whether / when people are desexualized in the course of work.

There are lots of circumstances here to unpack: power differential, age difference, threatening stance, abusive words, abusive physicality. Let's try to simplify them by stripping the situation down.

Say player J is female. The rest of her NOSHO team, the Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs, is male. They're all 50. Can J use the lockerroom with the guys? Can everybody get naked or not and not care? Is there a point where sex just doesn't matter, like a doctor examining a patient?

Flip the genders in the prior example. Is it different since now it reinforces a gender power difference?

Now make J a 50, M and the rest of the team 25, F. A difference? They're still all just playing hockey as teammates, not coach and players, nothing sexual is said.

Introducing abusive behavior changes things radically, but shouldn't it regardless of gender considerations?

Discuss.
I would suggest looking at a SafeSport course if you want what are the legally defined answers to this.
 
They must’ve pulled the goalies and played 6x6 in Happy Valley this weekend. Michigan sweeps with 6-5 and 10-6 wins.

ASU goes on the road and sweeps #1 Denver, dropping them down to 8th in the pairwise. BC split with Northeastern. While BC is still #1 in the pairwise, good chance MSU is #1 in the media polls this week.
 
I would suggest looking at a SafeSport course if you want what are the legally defined answers to this.

I don't. I want a discussion of ethics and mores. Laws are instruments of power and social order, they have nothing to do with what's right.
 
If that situation exists, it's not a college hockey locker room. That dynamic is just too lopsided, regardless of men's or women's hockey.

in a professional or adult setting, you can work that out with all parties involved. The problem is, if the power dynamic shifts at all or one person doesn't consent, that situation can't exist and would need to stop immediately.

Yeah, I think that is fair. The onus should not be on the weaker party to actively assert that their rights need to be acknowledged. That should be the default position.

That is what #woke means, at the core. And why so many people who defend dominance hierarchies are enraged by it. It exposes their privilege to abuse.
 
Good grief. The team is 12-2 and it is November, but there are people whining about being 7th in the PWR and an undefeated goaltender having a .902 save percentage. Might not be a typical reason the Gopher fan base is so hated, but…

 
Yeah, they're the only fanbase that has complainers. And you also neglect to mention the other fans that called them out for it. :rolleyes:
 
The Cornell game threads have been a paroxysm of doom this season. Every team has fans who depend on nothing going wrong to compensate for their chronic E.D. and who scream like scalded babies the second anything does.
 
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