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Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
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Frankly Kepler, I don't give a ****.
ScoobyDoo
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American Violence. 2017.
Considered a hot mess. Pretty much a hot mess. I seemed to enjoy it more than most reviews that I found after. Not sure why I even watched it. Looked for a movie last night for an hour and settled on this one. It's really two stories. One is about the death penalty and one is about the life of crime of a criminal in flashback who's on death row. Should they really kill him? And who, what kind of people, prefer the death penalty to others.
American Violence. 2017.
Considered a hot mess. Pretty much a hot mess. I seemed to enjoy it more than most reviews that I found after. Not sure why I even watched it. Looked for a movie last night for an hour and settled on this one. It's really two stories. One is about the death penalty and one is about the life of crime of a criminal in flashback who's on death row. Should they really kill him? And who, what kind of people, prefer the death penalty to others.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
"No, I don’t think I will kiss you, although you need kissing, badly. That’s what’s wrong with you. You should be kissed and often, and by someone who knows how." -- Christopher Walken
"No, I don’t think I will kiss you, although you need kissing, badly. That’s what’s wrong with you. You should be kissed and often, and by someone who knows how." -- Christopher Walken
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
solovsfett
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Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Recently watched or rewatched:
Face Off! So terrible it's fun. Cage is great, Travolta is terrible.
American Hustle - reminded me a bit of Carlito's Way and Donnie Basco. Bale, Adams, Renner, Lawrence and Cooper are all fantastic. DeNiro was excellent in his cameo looking much like Santo Trafficante.
Kill The Messenger - Jeremy Renner and Ray Liotta (in a smaller role)...story of Gary Webb uncovering and writing on the story of the drug money that fueled the Contra war and the cia's complicity in it. I'm going to read the book for more details as I'm not terribly familiar with the story except what I just watched. Great movie and incredibly sad as to what happens to the protagonist.
Sounds to me like Gary Webb and Robert Parry were cut from the same cloth.
Recently watched or rewatched:
Face Off! So terrible it's fun. Cage is great, Travolta is terrible.
American Hustle - reminded me a bit of Carlito's Way and Donnie Basco. Bale, Adams, Renner, Lawrence and Cooper are all fantastic. DeNiro was excellent in his cameo looking much like Santo Trafficante.
Kill The Messenger - Jeremy Renner and Ray Liotta (in a smaller role)...story of Gary Webb uncovering and writing on the story of the drug money that fueled the Contra war and the cia's complicity in it. I'm going to read the book for more details as I'm not terribly familiar with the story except what I just watched. Great movie and incredibly sad as to what happens to the protagonist.
Sounds to me like Gary Webb and Robert Parry were cut from the same cloth.
SonofSouthie
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Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Face Off is great popcorn IMO. It's Travolta and Cage at their Travolta-est and Cage-est ever. Plus, Gina Gershon was still smokin' then.
Enjoyed her in Killer Joe.
solovsfett
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Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Black Panther was ****ing awesome!
Black Panther was ****ing awesome!
Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
I just, wteff, I mean, ok for most of the movie, but that end scene, holy I don't know what I effing saw but never again.
THAT being said, Matty McC nailed his role in that movie.
Anyone want some chicken wings?
I just, wteff, I mean, ok for most of the movie, but that end scene, holy I don't know what I effing saw but never again.
THAT being said, Matty McC nailed his role in that movie.
Anyone want some chicken wings?
ticapnews
Never graduate.
$192 three-day opening, fifth best of all time. Looks like about $218 for the four-day. I'm going tomorrow.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Yeah, this is one of those movies where it'd add to the experience having seen the other Marvel movies, but you're not going to be lost with regards to the setup coming in fresh. Very short setup, if you're interested, and this would only really help on noticing some mostly minor details:
During Capt. America Civil War, the entire setup for the Black Panther's part is as follows: Black Panther's dad dies in a bombing at an international conference. Black Panther was there, but failed to save him. Everybody but one or two people blamed Bucky, Cap's friend from his first movie that went missing, who became the Winter Soldier (90% of that movie's plot). By the end, Capt. America is able to get the Black Panther to allow Bucky into BP's country to receive treatment for having been brainwashed.
Yeah, this is one of those movies where it'd add to the experience having seen the other Marvel movies, but you're not going to be lost with regards to the setup coming in fresh. Very short setup, if you're interested, and this would only really help on noticing some mostly minor details:
During Capt. America Civil War, the entire setup for the Black Panther's part is as follows: Black Panther's dad dies in a bombing at an international conference. Black Panther was there, but failed to save him. Everybody but one or two people blamed Bucky, Cap's friend from his first movie that went missing, who became the Winter Soldier (90% of that movie's plot). By the end, Capt. America is able to get the Black Panther to allow Bucky into BP's country to receive treatment for having been brainwashed.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Yes.
None of the other Marvel fanboy bait is required, or even remotely needed.
The thing is, Black Panther isn't a good comic book movie, it's just a good movie. The only rhetorical device any of the Marvel movies had tapped before this that was viable outside the comic book womb was bathos. The logos, ethos, pathos, kairos, and topos were still attached by umbiblical cord to the comic book framework. This movie is entirely freestanding. The rest of the Universe is, frankly, a bit of an embarrassment for it.
Spoilers:
1. It's the only comic book movie (unless you want to count Watchmen) where the backstory is interesting and not just a prop / platform for the action.
2. It's the only comic book movie where the main character is a functional adult.
3. I love that the main character is not snarky. He's sincere. A balm for our toxic adolescent CleverCulture.
4. The only misstep, which I'm sure was required by fealty to the original comics, is that Killmonger turns into a one-dimensional plot device-cum-villain after he becomes King. They would have had a legitimately great movie if they had had an equal battle between Martin and Malcolm. We needed a legitimate argument for violence. We had the emotional frustration of RhinoBoy and the I Vas Only Following Orduhs of his girlfriend, but we needed a reasoned, cogent argument for ahem "proactive" peace. And they were this close to it until they chickened out.
5. I'll bet they went back and forth between "barriers" and walls" a hundred times. They made the right choice -- we got it.
6. D-mn but Kid Sister (Letitia Wright) is fine. Now that's a Q.
7. We didn't need Watson at all. At least he didn't die -- that would have been too Weepy Whitey. But I'd have preferred no white help at all. The whole point is, Wakanda does not need us.
8. Wonderful post-credit epilogue.
Yes.
None of the other Marvel fanboy bait is required, or even remotely needed.
The thing is, Black Panther isn't a good comic book movie, it's just a good movie. The only rhetorical device any of the Marvel movies had tapped before this that was viable outside the comic book womb was bathos. The logos, ethos, pathos, kairos, and topos were still attached by umbiblical cord to the comic book framework. This movie is entirely freestanding. The rest of the Universe is, frankly, a bit of an embarrassment for it.
Spoilers:
1. It's the only comic book movie (unless you want to count Watchmen) where the backstory is interesting and not just a prop / platform for the action.
2. It's the only comic book movie where the main character is a functional adult.
3. I love that the main character is not snarky. He's sincere. A balm for our toxic adolescent CleverCulture.
4. The only misstep, which I'm sure was required by fealty to the original comics, is that Killmonger turns into a one-dimensional plot device-cum-villain after he becomes King. They would have had a legitimately great movie if they had had an equal battle between Martin and Malcolm. We needed a legitimate argument for violence. We had the emotional frustration of RhinoBoy and the I Vas Only Following Orduhs of his girlfriend, but we needed a reasoned, cogent argument for ahem "proactive" peace. And they were this close to it until they chickened out.
5. I'll bet they went back and forth between "barriers" and walls" a hundred times. They made the right choice -- we got it.
6. D-mn but Kid Sister (Letitia Wright) is fine. Now that's a Q.
7. We didn't need Watson at all. At least he didn't die -- that would have been too Weepy Whitey. But I'd have preferred no white help at all. The whole point is, Wakanda does not need us.
8. Wonderful post-credit epilogue.
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Movies! The Last Jedi: Ragnarok
Stand Alone Films that can be seen without the others.
1. Iron Man, Iron Man 2 (I never saw 3)
2. The Incredible Hulk
3. Thor
4. Captain America
5. The Avengers
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Ant-Man
8. Doctor Strange
9. Black Panther
And that's if I'm incredibly nit-picky about what qualifies as stand alone.
That's of 18 total that have been released. This Spring's Avengers film would require most of the MCU before seeing it as it is the culmination of the 18 films so far. Ant-Man and the Wasp for July you probably would have wanted to see Ant-Man first. Captain Marvel which comes after that will be stand alone.
Stand Alone Films that can be seen without the others.
1. Iron Man, Iron Man 2 (I never saw 3)
2. The Incredible Hulk
3. Thor
4. Captain America
5. The Avengers
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Ant-Man
8. Doctor Strange
9. Black Panther
And that's if I'm incredibly nit-picky about what qualifies as stand alone.
That's of 18 total that have been released. This Spring's Avengers film would require most of the MCU before seeing it as it is the culmination of the 18 films so far. Ant-Man and the Wasp for July you probably would have wanted to see Ant-Man first. Captain Marvel which comes after that will be stand alone.
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Mookie went and had no idea it was a comic book (true)
ticapnews
Never graduate.
Holy ****! Black Panther way overperformed on Sunday and became just the fifth movie (TFA, TLJ, Avengers, Jurassic World) to exceed $200 million for a 3-day weekend earning almost $202 million. Projections for the 4-day now put it at a record shattering $235.
ETA:
Dan Murrell
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@MurrellDan
Just a few of the comic book movies #BlackPanther has already outgrossed domestically in just 4 days of release: Logan, Justice League, Batman Begins, every X-Men movie not named Deadpool, and 6 other movies in the MCU. Wow.
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I thought Suicide Squad was pretty much stand-alone. Outside of Black Panther, I have no interest in the rest of the movies you posted. BP just looks pretty bad-arse from the trailer, and now the reviews.
I thought Suicide Squad was pretty much stand-alone. Outside of Black Panther, I have no interest in the rest of the movies you posted. BP just looks pretty bad-arse from the trailer, and now the reviews.
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