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Movies: Poor Things, Barbie and Oppenheimer are stuck in La La Land

solovsfett said:
Pour one out for David Lynch. He will be greatly missed.
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As a child I remember being terrified of some of his work, but still being absolutely mesmerized.

Kyle McLauhhlins tribute to him today made me tear up

smoking is disgisting, but that man loved it and almost made it look hot

Naomi Watts was given up on acting when he cast her in Mulhollamd Drive.

the Mel Brooks story of the blue coat was beautiful
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
As a child I remember being terrified of some of his work, but still being absolutely mesmerized.

Kyle McLauhhlins tribute to him today made me tear up

smoking is disgisting, but that man loved it and almost made it look hot

Naomi Watts was given up on acting when he cast her in Mulhollamd Drive.

the Mel Brooks story of the blue coat was beautiful
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I love his movies but admit, I don’t always “get” them.

characters like Frank Booth and Bobby Peru are unforgettable
 
I would have loved to have known David Lynch when he was huddled against a radiator in Philly figuring out how to shoot Eraserhead in 1972. He made the best American film of the last 50 years in Mulholland Drive 30 years later. He did not do anything between those two data points that was interesting, but how many truly great directors are able to fool Hollywood into funding great art, especially since the 50s?

David, you were were a jerk and thank goodness for you. The decline into idiocy was halted briefly, and that is all anyone can do.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I’m not going to argue with you, but I’ll just say I think it’s sad you find nothing if interest in the majority of his career.

Beautiful, weird, flawed brilliance in so many of his works.
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You misunderstand me. That was no diss. He made one great movie and one fun freaky experiment and that puts him ahead of all but maybe 10 directors. That's a strong endorsement. His other movies are deeply pleasurable but they aren't difficult.

I'm fine with the other stuff -- but anybody could have made it in the sense that it's fine work on the main sequence. He did, and that's to his credit, sure. But it's his brand -- quirky and shadowy. It's a gimmick. He goes on the eternal mountain because of E & MD, because they were uniquely wonderful and could not be projected from the times.

It's the difference between my favorite movie of all time, Casablanca, and the most interesting movie of all time, 8 1/2. The former is a brilliant example of a type, it's just perfection in every attribute. The later is "holy sh-t, WTF was that?" Nobody could have seen it coming until Fellini yanked it out of his skull. The former is quality entertainment and really fun. The latter is art, and sublime, and ennobling.
 
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I finally made it around to watching Oppenheimer and unsurprisingly was not disappointed. I actually plan to watch it again soon.
 
Kepler said:
You misunderstand me. That was no diss. He made one great movie and one fun freaky experiment and that puts him ahead of all but maybe 10 directors. That's a strong endorsement. His other movies are deeply pleasurable but they aren't difficult.

I'm fine with the other stuff -- but anybody could have made it in the sense that it's fine work on the main sequence. He did, and that's to his credit, sure. But it's his brand -- quirky and shadowy. It's a gimmick. He goes on the eternal mountain because of E & MD, because they were uniquely wonderful and could not be projected from the times.

It's the difference between my favorite movie of all time, Casablanca, and the most interesting movie of all time, 8 1/2. The former is a brilliant example of a type, it's just perfection in every attribute. The later is "holy sh-t, *** was that?" Nobody could have seen it coming until Fellini yanked it out of his skull.
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Ah, fair.

I think for me, the less I try to analyze his work, the more I enjoy it.

if the final scene of twin peaks the return is his final scene, I find it fitting .
 
I know that I watched Mulholland drive sometime around my college years, but I can’t remember much of the movie. And I just realized that come June, it’ll be 30 years since I graduated high school. Huh.
 
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I know that I watched Mulholland drive sometime around my college years, but I can’t remember much of the movie. And I just realized that come June, it’ll be 30 years since I graduated high school. Huh.
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It was originally going to be a series that was somewhat a spin off of twin peaks, starring Sherilyn fenn as Audrey in the next phase of her life.

im glad it changed
 
I come from a discussion on reddit about 9/11 movies. My contention is the great American 9/11 era movie had not been made yet (I think this is inarguable) and I can't imagine what it will look like, other than it will be deeply depressing. For the record, my twin nominations for the great American Vietnam movie are Apocalypse Now and The Deer Hunter, for different reasons. There is no great movie from Gulf War I for the same reason as Korea. It did not matter.

I think the 9/11 movie will be entirely in the US. There will be no overseas combat because that part of it, well, didn't matter. It will be about privacy, and stupefication, and submission. And powerlessness and lying and depression. Maybe it will just be Dubya ambling from one room to another mumbling platitudes that don't connect to the world. Anyway, it hasn't been made yet.

The great American Cold War movies were almost the same: Fail Safe and Dr. Strangelove.

As for today... I guess we'll find out in about 25 years when somebody writes the American version of Cabaret or The Tin Drum.
 
Watched the first half of Holy Motors last night. It's something else. Very few movies have no other reference point. I can't decide yet whether it's brilliant or silly or both (probably both). Second half when I can face it.

If nothing else it made me want to go to Paris.
 
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