Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

[Kepler]

A Zoomer recently said something to me about, "You people born in the 1900s". My wife and I were not amused.

GenZ conception of my youth:

 

[Slap Shot]

Depends on what you mean by the general public.

If you mean the actual median American, no, of course not, they have the artistic and cultural capacity of a not particularly bright racoon. But if you mean the lower reaches of the population that actually can be reached, say, the top third of the population -- and that's 100 million people in the US, hardly an elite -- then I think the movie may reintroduce him to the status he had as a "public cultural figure" when he was active. Somebody like say Neil deGrasse Tyson, Jurgen Habermas, or Richard Posner is now.

Movie are a great way to widely transmit this kind of culture. I had never heard of John Nash before I saw A Beautiful Mind, and now I've read some of his work and been enriched by it. Hollywood is infantilizing garbage 99% of the time... but not 100%.

Think of how many people know Tolkien now, but never would have otherwise, because of Peter As-shat Jackson. He done good, despite his overdetermining limitations.

I was thinking more along the lines of a modern day Bernstein. I mean you have Tay Tay but what do tens of millions of us non-teenage girls have?

 

[Kepler]

I was thinking more along the lines of a modern day Bernstein. I mean you have Tay Tay but what do tens of millions of us non-teenage girls have?

Bernstein's great gift was his ability to communicate about music.

The modern day Bernstein just died.

I wonder if the future Bernstein was right under our nose all the time.

 

[Handyman]

A Zoomer recently said something to me about, "You people born in the 1900s". My wife and I were not amused.

 

[Slap Shot]

Bernstein's great gift was his ability to communicate about music.

The modern day Bernstein just died.

I wonder if the future Bernstein was right under our nose all the time.

Have you watched this yet?

 

[aparch]

I dropped a reference to "dogs and cats living together" on a work skype chat and none of 19 people recognized it. Millenials are terrible.

What's weird is being caught in the middle. Of co-workers in my field office there is the borderline Boomer/Gen-X, the Elder Millenial (myself), and the solidly Gen-Z.

The Elder Gen X made a Get Smart joke that sailed well over the Gen Z's head. X made the comment it was from Get Smart, to which Z goes "The Steve Carell movie? I don't remember that reference."

I had to explain to each that the Steve Carell movie was based on a TV series and that there was a modern movie that referenced the TV show.

 

[Handyman]

What's weird is being caught in the middle. Of co-workers in my field office there is the borderline Boomer/Gen-X, the Elder Millenial (myself), and the solidly Gen-Z.

The Elder Gen X made a Get Smart joke that sailed well over the Gen Z's head. X made the comment it was from Get Smart, to which Z goes "The Steve Carell movie? I don't remember that reference."

I had to explain to each that the Steve Carell movie was based on a TV series and that there was a modern movie that referenced the TV show.

Been there man...

 

[dxmnkd316]

A Zoomer recently said something to me about, "You people born in the 1900s". My wife and I were not amused.

That's a tremendous line.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Kepler, you should stop reading this post here.



Did you stop? I mean it. You really should.



for everyone else.....





I still maintain that millennials are poorly defined. I don't think you can have a single generation that spans the complete lack of internet or computers to them being almost ubiquitous by the time the last millennials were born. I really think that generation should be bifurcated into 1980 (and maybe a few years earlier) to something around 1990-1992ish.

You also can't have a generation that has people who remember and don't remember 9/11. They're just... different eras entirely. 9/11 was a black swan event that changed almost every aspect of life. It's was like the entire world made a Quantum Leap into another universe overnight. Kids born after even around 1994-1995 probably don't have those memories of what life before 9/11 was like.

I think you have a half-gen of millennials from either late 70s, early early 80s to early 90s. Then there is another half-gen between the early 90s and right around 2000ish. Kids who might remember the difference pre-post smartphones.

Zoomers start somewhere between 2000 and end no later than 2017. All kids who basically grew up in the era of Zoom and COVID. Just a massive culture shift. Massive. As big as 9/11.

I also suspect that generations as defined by culture and technology are going to be increasingly compacted. Gone are the days of 30-year cultural generations.

 

[Proud2baLaker]

Kepler, you should stop reading this post here.



Did you stop? I mean it. You really should.



for everyone else.....





I still maintain that millennials are poorly defined. I don't think you can have a single generation that spans the complete lack of internet or computers to them being almost ubiquitous by the time the last millennials were born. I really think that generation should be bifurcated into 1980 (and maybe a few years earlier) to something around 1990-1992ish.

You also can't have a generation that has people who remember and don't remember 9/11. They're just... different eras entirely. 9/11 was a black swan event that changed almost every aspect of life. It's was like the entire world made a Quantum Leap into another universe overnight. Kids born after even around 1994-1995 probably don't have those memories of what life before 9/11 was like.

I think you have a half-gen of millennials from either late 70s, early early 80s to early 90s. Then there is another half-gen between the early 90s and right around 2000ish. Kids who might remember the difference pre-post smartphones.

Zoomers start somewhere between 2000 and end no later than 2017. All kids who basically grew up in the era of Zoom and COVID. Just a massive culture shift. Massive. As big as 9/11.

I also suspect that generations as defined by culture and technology are going to be increasingly compacted. Gone are the days of 30-year cultural generations.

I agree to this. I was born in 1983 and feel like I fit more closely to many of the Gen-X traits than the traits commonly used to define millennials. Early mellennials (and late Gen-X; often called Xennials, the Oregon Trail Generation or Star Wars Generation; roughly 1977-1983) were the ones who really had the analog childhood and digital early adulthood and are old enough to remember that shift in life post internet, post 9/11, etc.

 

[SJHovey]

Kepler, you should stop reading this post here.



Did you stop? I mean it. You really should.



for everyone else.....





I still maintain that millennials are poorly defined. I don't think you can have a single generation that spans the complete lack of internet or computers to them being almost ubiquitous by the time the last millennials were born. I really think that generation should be bifurcated into 1980 (and maybe a few years earlier) to something around 1990-1992ish.

You also can't have a generation that has people who remember and don't remember 9/11. They're just... different eras entirely. 9/11 was a black swan event that changed almost every aspect of life. It's was like the entire world made a Quantum Leap into another universe overnight. Kids born after even around 1994-1995 probably don't have those memories of what life before 9/11 was like.

I think you have a half-gen of millennials from either late 70s, early early 80s to early 90s. Then there is another half-gen between the early 90s and right around 2000ish. Kids who might remember the difference pre-post smartphones.

Zoomers start somewhere between 2000 and end no later than 2017. All kids who basically grew up in the era of Zoom and COVID. Just a massive culture shift. Massive. As big as 9/11.

I also suspect that generations as defined by culture and technology are going to be increasingly compacted. Gone are the days of 30-year cultural generations.

Eventually you'll realize that every generation has seismic changes in technology, or history making events that have occurred, or in many instances, both. It's not unique to GenZ or millennials or any other generation.

It's one of the reasons I like to watch old movies and tv shows. It's a never ending series of, "oh yeah, I remember when we used to have to do that."

 

[French Rage]

I agree to this. I was born in 1983 and feel like I fit more closely to many of the Gen-X traits than the traits commonly used to define millennials. Early mellennials (and late Gen-X; often called Xennials, the Oregon Trail Generation or Star Wars Generation; roughly 1977-1983) were the ones who really had the analog childhood and digital early adulthood and are old enough to remember that shift in life post internet, post 9/11, etc.

Same here as a 1983 birth. We were into high school before the Internet became usable for us socially. Another 10+ years before smartphones were accessible. I'm not pretending we roughed it or anything, but we have a memory of entertaining ourselves with just TV and early video games (the horror). We would not be thrilled if the internet disappeared tomorrow and we would not adapt well after all if these years, but we would at least have some (albeit old) experience of what to do. For people born ten years later, I don't believe there is any such experience or memory. Late late Gen-X has more in common with us as a result.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Eventually you'll realize that every generation has seismic changes in technology, or history making events that have occurred, or in many instances, both. It's not unique to GenZ or millennials or any other generation.

It's one of the reasons I like to watch old movies and tv shows. It's a never ending series of, "oh yeah, I remember when we used to have to do that."

Agree and that's kind of my point. I think of generations as defined by events, culture, and technology.

 

[Kepler]

Have you watched this yet?

That looks like utter dreck.

I love Jean Batiste. But. Woof.

 

[Kepler]

Kepler, you should stop reading this post here.

OK.

Did you stop? I mean it. You really should.

Yes.

for everyone else

Maybe just a peek.

I still maintain that millennials are poorly defined. I don't think you can have a single generation that spans the complete lack of internet or computers to them being almost ubiquitous by the time the last millennials were born. I really think that generation should be bifurcated into 1980 (and maybe a few years earlier) to something around 1990-1992ish.

You also can't have a generation that has people who remember and don't remember 9/11. They're just... different eras entirely. 9/11 was a black swan event that changed almost every aspect of life. It's was like the entire world made a Quantum Leap into another universe overnight. Kids born after even around 1994-1995 probably don't have those memories of what life before 9/11 was like.

I think you have a half-gen of millennials from either late 70s, early early 80s to early 90s. Then there is another half-gen between the early 90s and right around 2000ish. Kids who might remember the difference pre-post smartphones.

Zoomers start somewhere between 2000 and end no later than 2017. All kids who basically grew up in the era of Zoom and COVID. Just a massive culture shift. Massive. As big as 9/11.

I also suspect that generations as defined by culture and technology are going to be increasingly compacted. Gone are the days of 30-year cultural generations.

Maybe. Or maybe all those superficial differences collapse and since Forever September there is actually just one endless plain of sameness, and everyone born since, say, 1975, is and ever shall be the same.

Printing froze language to a huge extent -- the velocity of language change slowed to such a crawl we can still understand texts written in the 1500s. People in the 1500s could not understand texts from the 1000s... or even the 1300s.

The internet may be cultural printing. While generations have never been real, perhaps even that hoax of generations no longer holds true, and we have McDonaldsized time.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Bernstein's great gift was his ability to communicate about music.

The modern day Bernstein just died.

I wonder if the future Bernstein was right under our nose all the time.

My only thought when Leonard Bernstein is mentioned...

 

[Jimjamesak]

That's a tremendous line.

My 14 year old daughter has plenty of them. Teenagers are cruel.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Been there man...

That's pretty much my working life now. Thankfully I do have a cohort of Elder Millennials to retreat with.

 

[dxmnkd316]

OK.




Yes.




Maybe just a peek.




Maybe. Or maybe all those superficial differences collapse and since Forever September there is actually just one endless plain of sameness, and everyone born since, say, 1975, is and ever shall be the same.

Printing froze language to a huge extent -- the velocity of language change slowed to such a crawl we can still understand texts written in the 1500s. People in the 1500s could not understand texts from the 1000s... or even the 1300s.

The internet may be cultural printing. While generations have never been real, perhaps even that hoax of generations no longer holds true, and we have McDonaldsized time.

Lol

As for the bottom part, you might be right. There are an infinite number of ways to classify generations. Temporal, events, writing, culture, technology, etc. I think there are good arguments for many of them.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Same here as a 1983 birth. We were into high school before the Internet became usable for us socially. Another 10+ years before smartphones were accessible. I'm not pretending we roughed it or anything, but we have a memory of entertaining ourselves with just TV and early video games (the horror). We would not be thrilled if the internet disappeared tomorrow and we would not adapt well after all if these years, but we would at least have some (albeit old) experience of what to do. For people born ten years later, I don't believe there is any such experience or memory. Late late Gen-X has more in common with us as a result.

That’s my generation too! A small timeframe but we def don’t fit into x or millennial neatly