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Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

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Kepler said:
Woods and Beck's original script does not have the pop out action moments, and much more it is a story about the daughter which only has the parents in as support. K rewrote the script as an ego vehicle for himself and his meh wife. Evidently Woods and Beck were Very Unhappy and on the verge of pulling out so they were mollified with full creative control on a second film (which I guess is Haunt?).

Note that Woods and Beck have nothing to do with QP2 and Krasinski has nothing to do with Haunt. It's hardly the first time a dumb actor swung his ego around and harmed something original and smart with his ineptitude. Tom Cruise does it all the time.
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I could have done with less shots of the actual aliens, it would keep us the tenseness if you see them less; I don't mind "action" per se but they're better kept more hidden. I don't feel the movie lost anything, though, by having it focus on the family as a whole (ie. not an ego vehicle) but having not read the source I suppose I have no real comparison.
 
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French Rage said:
I could have done with less shots of the actual aliens, it would keep us the tenseness if you see them less; I don't mind "action" per se but they're better kept more hidden. I don't feel the movie lost anything, though, by having it focus on the family as a whole (ie. not an ego vehicle) but having not read the source I suppose I have no real comparison.
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And to be fair I haven't read it either, and my general loathing of Krasinski doesn't help.

Anyway, it's not like I broke down the doors to see Haunt.

I don't know whether the "silent birth" scene was W&B or K but it is without a doubt the dumbest scene of any movie I have ever seen, edging out this.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The Mummy reboot with Brendan Fraser was fantastic. It can be done. No one is stating anything has to be. What is being stated is do it right or don't do it at all.
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They should have just left it alone. When the project was announced no one wanted it. More people wanted another Brendan Frasier one and the last one bombed hard if I remember correctly. (I love the first one) Those movies are great, but rebooting them isnt going to get you a Universe. (Start with another monster first and see if people even care)
 
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aparch said:
Am I the only one who likes Krasinski as young Jack Ryan?

I just wish it had more ties to the Alec Baldwin / Harrison Ford era Jack Ryan. But I (begrudgingly) understand the "reboot."

I swear to God though, if Krasinski NEVER utters "Next time Jack, write a goddammed memo," to himself before the series finale, I'll feel cheated. :p
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I dont mind it...I just think it is ok. The second season had one of the dumbest stories ever though that isnt his fault.

I dunno he just seems so...off. Like you are supposed to believe he is an analyst but he is also buff like a superhero and great at tactical response. Alec Baldwin looked like a guy who wrote books for the CIA. Harrison Ford looked like a career State Department analyst. Krasinski looks like Jim Halpert on Roids trying to pretend he is meek Jim Halpert.
 
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Handyman said:
They should have just left it alone. When the project was announced no one wanted it. More people wanted another Brendan Frasier one and the last one bombed hard if I remember correctly. (I love the first one) Those movies are great, but rebooting them isnt going to get you a Universe. (Start with another monster first and see if people even care)
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Of the Fraser ones they're all bad sans the first one. But the first one was great. I'm not sure who this no one is that you're talking about. I was intrigued. I couldn't have been the only one.
 
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French Rage said:
I could have done with less shots of the actual aliens, it would keep us the tenseness if you see them less; I don't mind "action" per se but they're better kept more hidden. I don't feel the movie lost anything, though, by having it focus on the family as a whole (ie. not an ego vehicle) but having not read the source I suppose I have no real comparison.
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The family as a whole is fine...but the silent birth and the ending were just so...ugh. Once you get past the lack of sound the film is actually not even really that suspenseful. The first 45 minutes or so though really got to me.

I also admit...I find Emily Blunt annoying. Great interview but she just grates on me in films and I dont know why.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Of the Fraser ones they're all bad sans the first one. But the first one was great. I'm not sure who this no one is that you're talking about. I was intrigued. I couldn't have been the only one.
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The online response was hilariously bad to the announcement. The trailers were ripped to shreds and many of the experts on tracking (the ones that dont work for Deadline or Variety who just go by studio numbers) put it at a bomb way out. It even underperformed their numbers though it got so toxic. (Cruise saved it Internationally but domestically it bombed hard)

Universal had its reasons for doing it but they miscalculated. Actually IIRC many of the studio people and insiders though Invisible Man would be the better starting point. (Wolfman was also often brought up but it had a bomb in 2010)

All in all, I spend too much time geeking out about movies :D
 
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Handyman said:
The online response was hilariously bad to the announcement. The trailers were ripped to shreds and many of the experts on tracking (the ones that dont work for Deadline or Variety who just go by studio numbers) put it at a bomb way out. It even underperformed their numbers though it got so toxic. (Cruise saved it Internationally but domestically it bombed hard)

Universal had its reasons for doing it but they miscalculated. Actually IIRC many of the studio people and insiders though Invisible Man would be the better starting point. (Wolfman was also often brought up but it had a bomb in 2010)

All in all, I spend too much time geeking out about movies :D
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Online reaction to anything is pure insanity. If you listen to the Internet for your ideas your done before you started.
 
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Handyman said:
The family as a whole is fine...but the silent birth and the ending as a whole were just so...ugh. Once you get past the lack of sound the film is actually not even really that suspenseful. The first 45 minutes or so though really got to me.

I also adit...I find Emily Blunt annoying. Great interview but she just grates on me in films and I dont know why.
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I honestly don't remember the silent birth, so I must not have exceptionally liked or disliked. By the ending, do people mean the whole "hearing aid hurts the aliens" part or the shotgun getting cocked? For the former, well, there's going to be some dues ex machina, for the latter, corny or not I liked that.
 
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aparch said:
Am I the only one who likes Krasinski as young Jack Ryan?

I just wish it had more ties to the Alec Baldwin / Harrison Ford era Jack Ryan. But I (begrudgingly) understand the "reboot."

I swear to God though, if Krasinski NEVER utters "Next time Jack, write a goddammed memo," to himself before the series finale, I'll feel cheated. :p
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Love him as Ryan. I think he's perfect.
 
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I love seeing people speak in absolutes about what movies should or should not be made. Make it right it and time it right and usually it's a formula for success. I loved the idea of a mummy reboot, but I knew I would hate as soon as I heard Cruise was involved.
 
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Handyman said:
I dunno he just seems so...off. Like you are supposed to believe he is an analyst but he is also buff like a superhero and great at tactical response. Alec Baldwin looked like a guy who wrote books for the CIA. Harrison Ford looked like a career State Department analyst. Krasinski looks like Jim Halpert on Roids trying to pretend he is meek Jim Halpert.
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the timeline is tighter here.

in the orignal book by clancy, ryan was a later arrival into the cia analyst role. sure he was still a marine and crashed in a copter, but he had worked at merrill for some time and made book. got the ph.d, etc.

the reboot has ryan getting into the agency much earlier, right after the crash. plus it is modern with military types now being not so much in better shape, but.... well in better shape :) training is much higher for these warrior types nowadays.

so a workable combination of a number of things has ryan reboot being more action hero than the orignal intent from clancy.
 
Ohh... Why Not...

Ohh... Why Not...

Starting to compile a list of Two-Week Shutdown/Quarantine movies, you know... "just in case":

  • Contagion
  • Outbreak
  • Bird Box
  • The Stand (TV mini-series)
  • Flu
  • A Quiet Place
  • World War Z
  • 10 Cloverfield Lane
  • Deranged

Additional suggestions?
 
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Transplanted Tiger Fan said:
Starting to compile a list of Two-Week Shutdown/Quarantine movies, you know... "just in case":

  • Contagion
  • Outbreak
  • Bird Box
  • The Stand (TV mini-series)
  • Flu
  • A Quiet Place
  • World War Z
  • 10 Cloverfield Lane
  • Deranged

Additional suggestions?
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Isle of the Dead (1945)
The Andromeda Strain (1971)
Night of the Living Dead (1968)
Twelve Monkeys (1995)
Cabin Fever (2002)
The Plague of Florence (1919)
The Masque of the Red Death (1964)
 
aparch said:
Am I the only one who likes Krasinski as young Jack Ryan?

I just wish it had more ties to the Alec Baldwin / Harrison Ford era Jack Ryan. But I (begrudgingly) understand the "reboot."

I swear to God though, if Krasinski NEVER utters "Next time Jack, write a goddammed memo," to himself before the series finale, I'll feel cheated. :p
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I loved season 1. Haven't gotten around to season 2 yet.
 
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