Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

[First Time Long Time]

I have not heard good things outside of Moss being excellent in her role (given what she had to work with).

Funny cause it's getting great reviews.
91% on RT with an 88% audience score

 

[The Rube]

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Funny cause it's getting great reviews.
91% on RT with an 88% audience score

It was massacred at first, from what I have read, then it was reframed (in marketing) as a "MeToo" movie, then reviews started changing.

 

[Handyman]

Funny cause it's getting great reviews.
91% on RT with an 88% audience score

Which is proof RT is worthless. The movie is stupid and so rushed it is laughable. They don't even build suspense and she figures the whole thing out in half an hour. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it went through massive rewrites it is so incomplete.

And Moss just didn't do much and the end is almost as bad A Quiet Place.

 

[The Rube]

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Which is proof RT is worthless. The movie is stupid and so rushed it is laughable. They don't even build suspense and she figures the whole thing out in half an hour. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it went through massive rewrites it is so incomplete.

And Moss just didn't do much and the end is almost as bad A Quiet Place.

I liked the Quiet Place, but can see where that was rife for ridicule.

 

[First Time Long Time]

Which is proof RT is worthless. The movie is stupid and so rushed it is laughable. They don't even build suspense and she figures the whole thing out in half an hour. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it went through massive rewrites it is so incomplete.

And Moss just didn't do much and the end is almost as bad A Quiet Place.

You disagreeing doesn't make RT worthless but ok...

 

[The Rube]

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You disagreeing doesn't make RT worthless but ok...

RT is just like every other critic. I don't bother with critics. I watch for myself, or listen to people I actually know, and then judge. Handy and I...I'd say we're 50/50 on movie likes. Different tastes and such. I trust him on this one.

 

[Handyman]

You disagreeing doesn't make RT worthless but ok...

No RT is worthless for about a thousand reasons. My disliking it is just a biproduct of that

 

[First Time Long Time]

RT is just like every other critic. I don't bother with critics. I watch for myself, or listen to people I actually know, and then judge. Handy and I...I'd say we're 50/50 on movie likes. Different tastes and such. I trust him on this one.

Im not saying I trust critics Implicitly or anything...just that the reviews have been good.
Handy doesn't like it..fine.

 

[Kepler]

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No RT is worthless for about a thousand reasons. My disliking it is just a biproduct of that

I never read the reviews but I look at the scores.

High Critics / Low Audience: Definitely see it
Low Critics / High Audience: Ow My Balls

 

[Handyman]

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Im not saying I trust critics Implicitly or anything...just that the reviews have been good.
Handy doesn't like it..fine.

I honestly had no clue if the reviews were good or not. I dont look until after I see a film.

I can guess the reasons why this got reviewed well, and RT is part of the problem. (that is a discussion for another day)

Plenty of bad movies people hate get great reviews so it isnt a big deal or anything. This film is like the twitter version of a thriller...it is 1/4 of the whole story with a few jump scares (clickbait) in there to get your attention. I mean you dont even get enough time where you believe he is dead like 5 minutes after she finds out she goes from super happy to "ZOMG HE FAKED HIS DEATH WE GOTS TA STOP HIM!!!1!!". They should have spent more time with him terrorizing her without her figuring it out...and in way less obvious ways. For a genius this guy was a moron. And the ending...it tried so hard to be clever and "You go girl!" and while it hits the second part it fails horrendously at the first.

I have to think this was originally part of the "Monster Extended Universe" Universal was trying to put together with Tom Cruise's Mummy reboot that failed. When the Universe failed they re-purposed it and that is why the story is so disjointed.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I honestly had no clue if the reviews were good or not. I dont look until after I see a film.

I can guess the reasons why this got reviewed well, and RT is part of the problem. (that is a discussion for another day)

Plenty of bad movies people hate get great reviews so it isnt a big deal or anything. This film is like the twitter version of a thriller...it is 1/4 of the whole story with a few jump scares (clickbait) in there to get your attention. I mean you dont even get enough time where you believe he is dead like 5 minutes after she finds out she goes from super happy to "ZOMG HE FAKED HIS DEATH WE GOTS TA STOP HIM!!!1!!". They should have spent more time with him terrorizing her without her figuring it out...and in way less obvious ways. For a genius this guy was a moron. And the ending...it tried so hard to be clever and "You go girl!" and while it hits the second part it fails horrendously at the first.

I have to think this was originally part of the "Monster Extended Universe" Universal was trying to put together with Tom Cruise's Mummy reboot that failed. When the Universe failed they re-purposed it and that is why the story is so disjointed.

Probably. The Monster Universe was a good idea. Unfortunately like DC they forgot that they need actual good writing, storylines etc. I liked the Mummy better than most but it was a mess.

 

[French Rage]

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I liked the Quiet Place, but can see where that was rife for ridicule.

Same here, it was good and tense and the minimal sound helped. I don't think it needs a sequel though.

 

[Kepler]

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Quiet Place was great except for:

1. Krasinski, who is inept, and
2. The changes he and Blunt made to the script, which were stupid

It was a wonderful original idea by Woods and Beck, spoiled by the stupidity of "a piano which thinks it writes the concerto." Hopefully (presumably) it will be redone with competent acting in 20 years or so. It took 3 tries to get Maltese Falcon right.

 

[Handyman]

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Probably. The Monster Universe was a good idea. Unfortunately like DC they forgot that they need actual good writing, storylines etc. I liked the Mummy better than most but it was a mess.

No they forgot that no one wanted any of those films. Godzilla can get away with half baked stories as remakes because it has its audience...who was clamoring for a Mummy reboot?

Not everything needs to be a huge universe. (I personally am not a fan) And if you must have it let it arrive organically.

 

[French Rage]

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Quiet Place was great except for:

1. Krasinski, who is inept, and
2. The changes he and Blunt made to the script, which were stupid

blah blah art school crap blah blah

Yes, yes, we all know of your weird psycho-sexual hate for him. What were these changes?

 

[Handyman]

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Yes, yes, we all know of your weird psycho-sexual hate for him. What were these changes?

I gotta admit...watching him as Jack Ryan gets me angry sometimes in a Kepler type way. Not sure why

 

[aparch]

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Am I the only one who likes Krasinski as young Jack Ryan?

I just wish it had more ties to the Alec Baldwin / Harrison Ford era Jack Ryan. But I (begrudgingly) understand the "reboot."

I swear to God though, if Krasinski NEVER utters "Next time Jack, write a goddammed memo," to himself before the series finale, I'll feel cheated.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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No they forgot that no one wanted any of those films. Godzilla can get away with half baked stories as remakes because it has its audience...who was clamoring for a Mummy reboot?

Not everything needs to be a huge universe. (I personally am not a fan) And if you must have it let it arrive organically.

The Mummy reboot with Brendan Fraser was fantastic. It can be done. No one is stating anything has to be. What is being stated is do it right or don't do it at all.

 

[Kepler]

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What were these changes?

Woods and Beck's original script does not have the pop out action moments, and much more it is a story about the daughter which only has the parents in as support. K rewrote the script as an ego vehicle for himself and his meh wife. Evidently Woods and Beck were Very Unhappy and on the verge of pulling out so they were mollified with full creative control on a second film (which I guess is Haunt?).

Note that Woods and Beck have nothing to do with QP2 and Krasinski has nothing to do with Haunt. It's hardly the first time a dumb actor swung his ego around and harmed something original and smart with his ineptitude. Tom Cruise does it all the time.

 

[Kepler]

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The Mummy reboot with Brendan Fraser was fantastic. It can be done. No one is stating anything has to be. What is being stated is do it right or don't do it at all.

As a hater of both remakes and movies made since 1959, I agree. Fraser's Mummy was funny AF and really well done all around.

The sequels are a war crime.