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MN Golden Gophers @ UND Sioux: Arrogant vs Offensive!

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lord k said:
First off i would like to say that I grew up in EGF and played highschool hockey there. I have always been a UND fan. I have many friends that are Gopher fans and we have this same argument all the time.

Basically back in the day almost all the good non-candadian hockey players came from the minnesota highschool system. It was a point of pride for minnesotan's and the gophers to be made up of all minnesota kids. Well times they are a changin'. Minnesota is not the only hockey hotbed for recruiting anymore. All schools take kids from canada and states across the country not just UND. The days of the 23 year old freshmen are long behind us so that argument doesn't hold water anymore either. The top kids are drafted at like 17 and they want to go pro as soon as possible. The gopher's arogance about this situation is holding them back. They would be well served to pick up a few canadians here and there for chemistry if anything else. They also could encourge their recruits to at least finish highschool and not accelerate their graduation so they can start their college careers early. There just are not that many Jonny toews type players out their that are ready to play D1 hockey at 17 years old.

Personally i would probably like the gophers a little bit more if they at the very least took more kids from the northern part of the state instead of all the cake eaters from the metro area.

If the gophers don't start broadening their horizons soon, they will be losing even more of the top players in the state because people want to go to a winner.
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There just isn't a lot of great "individual" talent up north but there is plenty of great "teams" from northern Minnesota. The fact of the matter is with the addition of BSU to the WCHA we will see even more competition for the already diluted northern Minnesota players.
 
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ExRider19 said:
And what credibility do you have for this?

Goon's version was closer to what I've heard.

I have heard Blais has said, "It's our fault we didn't get Grant...it's Ryan's that he didn't come here."


Let me say this again, Grant's junior coach in Lincoln, had a son on my hockey team. I spent a lot of time talking to him about hockey in general, and this was one of the things he told me. He essentially begged Dean Blais to take Grant, because he thought that Grant was the best team leader he had ever had in Lincoln, and he had a lot of good players there. Blais said no, he wanted another player. So, like most junior coaches do, he went to the next best option, Minnesota, told him how great Grant was, and that's where he ended up. Now i had heard all the same rumors about U of M taking Grant just to get Ryan, and I asked this guy, was taht the case(he also had Ryan in Lincoln.0 he said no, but Ryan wasn't going to UND after this had happened. Plus, i grew up with Ryan, and he has always been a Gophers fan. So it worked out well.

So as far as credibility, I think I have it, since I heard straight from the guy who was largely responsible for Grant going to Minnesota. Nobody has to believe me, that's fine, but that is what happened.
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So Johnson had a kid playing hockey in Grand Forks, ND while he was coaching in Lincoln, NE?:confused:
 
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Brenthoven said:
Well, I'll give you this: you are incredible.
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Whatever ExRider19 says must be true, he heard it in the halls of GFRR which have a can attached to a string with another can on the other end in the head coaching office at the Ralph. Also confirmed in the halls at GFRR, the world is flat just look outside.
 
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4four4 said:
I agree with SIM. No Minnesota kid should play for anybody but the Gophers.



and that is saying something.



How old are you? I would bet you are not old enough to witness the 1979 National Championship game or the 1980 Gold Medal game. The Gophers were dominate in 1979 and deserved to beat UND in fact Minnesota probably would have repeated if it were not for the Olympics. Don't kid ourselves into believing the 1980 USA team loaded with a mostly University of Minnesota roster of players were not good enough to repeat as champions. The fact of the matter is the Olympic team was loaded with NHL players and many Gopher players went on to the NHL.
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I disagree about 1979. UND won the WCHA championship in 1979 by beating Minnesota at Williams Arena in the final game of the season. In face Dave Christian scored the empty net goal at that game. I was there for those two last games. These teams were dead even all year and the only difference for the season was the final game where Broten scored the one on his belly to have Minnesota take the season series by one game. North Dakota and Minnesota were both dominant in 1979 and fittingly played for the national championship. So don't give me that Minnesota "deserved to win the national championship".

Both teams would have been stacked in 1980 until a number of Gopher players went to the US Olympic team and North Dakota lost two players (Dave Christian to the US and Kevin Maxwell to Canada). Because Minnesota lost more in 1980, UND had their way with the WCHA and won the national championship. Now if all players would have stayed with their teams it would have been another battle just like in 1979 but it was not a given that Minnesota would win again.
 
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ecbrevik said:
This thread is STILL alive? :confused: :eek:
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I just fired off an email to the General Manager of the Ralph. I took the liberty to "cc" a few other UND bigshots just for laughs.

Needless to say, since a lawsuit is more than likely pending, not expecting a response. However, Goon's article of how some fans were treated "inside" the arena is shocking. I guess its also amazing that only one person almost got killed outside the arena.


Goon's article: http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/


Jody Hodgson
Ralph Englestad Arena-General Manager
Grand Forks, North Dakota


Ms. Hodgson,

While I wasn't present at Ralph Englestad Arena this weekend, the behavior of the fans in your building is giving a black eye to the entire college hockey community. I hope you take steps to improve fan behavior and safety inside and outside the arena.


North Dakota fans embarrassed: http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/

Poor treatment of visiting press last season: http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2009/01/27/fsns-rizzo-not-a-fan-of-sioux-fans/

Fan almost killed at UND Hockey Game: http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2009/10/sioux-fan-in-coma-after-post-game-fight.html


Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Damien Goddard
University of Denver '88
Houston, TX
LetsGoDU Blog www.LetsGoDU.blogspot.com

cc:
Mike Chambers - Denver Post
Brian Faiason - UND Athletic Director
Dr. Robert Kelley - UND President
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johnnypohlfan said:
Me thinks your timeline could use some help.
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Yeah he seemed to miss the part where he went to work for Vahler insurance a couple of years back and then took the job as the coach of the Fargo Force.
 
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dggoddard said:
I just fired off an email to the General Manager of the Ralph. I took the liberty to "cc" a few other UND bigshots just for laughs.

Needless to say, since a lawsuit is more than likely pending, not expecting a response. However, Goon's article of how some fans were treated "inside" the arena is shocking. I guess its also amazing that only one person almost got killed outside the arena.


Goon's article: http://illegalcurve.com/2009/10/21/college-hockey-fan-behavior/




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Um.... I hate to tell you this, but the GM of REA, Jody Hodgson, is a guy. Nice work. :rolleyes:
 
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sfo19 said:
Um.... I hate to tell you this, but the GM of REA, Jody Hodgson, is a guy. Nice work. :rolleyes:
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:D That is some good homework there.... maybe you should worry a little more about your coach's cheating giving college hockey a "black eye".
 
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George Gwozdecky being called a little man and Alanna Rizzo being asked why she was at REA don't really belong in the same category as drunk morons falling all over themselves and a fan being assaulted.

Now Grand Forks is filled with metrosexuals? But I thought it was filled with backwoods, Polaris jacket wearing, NASCAR watching, sugar beet growing, illiterate hicks. I'm so confused.
 
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Drunken obnoxiousness is one thing, but it takes a group of Gopher fans to elevate it to assaulting people on crutches and almost killing a guy.
 
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dggoddard said:
I just fired off an email to the General Manager of the Ralph. I took the liberty to "cc" a few other UND bigshots just for laughs.
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Haha. I'm sure he will be laughing, being that you addressed him as Ms. :D
I can't believe you sent an email to the GM of the Ralph about this. That almost makes you as bad as those UND fans that emailed Red Baron about the NDSU F5 poster. :p :)

Happy said:
it's hard to tell, with so many metrosexuals up in Grand Forks.
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I think you're confusing us with either SCSU or UMN. Or both.
 
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brianvf said:
I can't believe you sent an email to the GM of the Ralph about this. That almost makes you as bad as those UND fans that emailed Red Baron about the NDSU F5 poster. :p :) .
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The WCHA never screwed up another poster... :D
 
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cg_siouxfan said:
Drunken obnoxiousness is one thing, but it takes a group of Gopher fans to elevate it to assaulting people on crutches and almost killing a guy.
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it was a sue on sue crime, which is why there hasn't been 5000 posts against drunken gophers fans around here.
 
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