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MLB 2010: The Second Half

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Just glad to see some new teams in the World Series. I can't decide which team I want to win, but I figure I'll pick a favorite after the games start. I like Kinsler and Guerrero, and Hamilton is an amazing story, but I also like Lincecum and the Panda (yes, I know he sucks this year).
 
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The Giants franchise is actually tied for second in WS appearances with 18. They just haven't won in a long time (1954).

New being a relative term. I don't know about you, but I don't really remember the days of McGraw and Mathewson, and I believe that's when most of their appearances were. ;) I probably should have said DIFFERENT teams.
 
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New being a relative term. I don't know about you, but I don't really remember the days of McGraw and Mathewson, and I believe that's when most of their appearances were. ;) I probably should have said DIFFERENT teams.

True, though 3 pennants in the last 21 seasons is well above average in a 16 (formerly 14, formerly 12) team league.
 
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Hmmmm Cliff Lee might not be a Yankee after all...


Fans' treatment of Cliff Lee's wife at Yankee Stadium might not help the Yankees' recruitment of one of the game's top left-handed pitchers.

During the AL Championship Series games in New York between the Yankees and Rangers, fans were extremely rude to Kristen Lee, spitting and throwing beer in her direction and shouting obscenities, according to USA Today.

lping Texas beat New York in the ALCS in six games. But there has been widespread speculation that the Yankees will make a serious run at signing Lee when he becomes a free agent after the season.

The reported incidents could not have helped that cause.

"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen Lee said, according to the newspaper. "When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."

Ah hell, they'll probably still sign him, but his asking price to be a Yankee just went up.
 
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Well, if the idea is to get away from lowest common denominator fans, I guess he could try Japan. Certainly not going to get any better treatment in Boston, Philly, etc.
 
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Well, if the idea is to get away from lowest common denominator fans, I guess he could try Japan. Certainly not going to get any better treatment in Boston, Philly, etc.

Yes and no. Curt Schilling famously made his decision to go to Boston in part based on how the fans treated him. Of course, had he chosen the Yankees instead (A-Rod, Texeira) he probably would be hated here.
 
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Yes and no. Curt Schilling famously made his decision to go to Boston in part based on how the fans treated him. Of course, had he chosen the Yankees instead (A-Rod, Texeira) he probably would be hated here.

The Boston crowd is vociferous, but it isn't generous. The most offensive Yankee fan could not be more obscene about a Red Sox player and his family than the average CF bleacher bum at Fenway if the guy had the misfortune to go into a 2-week slump.

I moved to Boston as a partial Red Sox and Bruins fan. Six years later I moved out wishing nothing more than to have every Boston sports fan's heart ripped from his chest every year for eternity. They are many things, even knowledgeable if you restrict the field of knowledge to nothing outside a 60 mile radius from Bunker Hill, but classy and loyal aren't two of them.
 
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Well, if the idea is to get away from lowest common denominator fans, I guess he could try Japan. Certainly not going to get any better treatment in Boston, Philly, etc.
Yes and no. Curt Schilling famously made his decision to go to Boston in part based on how the fans treated him. Of course, had he chosen the Yankees instead (A-Rod, Texeira) he probably would be hated here.
I don't think a good relationship with a guy who's noted for being a giant ***hole is the MOST persuasive piece of evidence to use if your goal is to prove that a fan base is not a group of ***holes.

(Which I'm not saying they are, of course, because I know that's a conversation that never leads anywhere productive. I'm just saying you didn't pick a particularly good way to prove otherwise. :p)
 
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I don't think a good relationship with a guy who's noted for being a giant ***hole is the MOST persuasive piece of evidence to use if your goal is to prove that a fan base is not a group of ***holes.

(Which I'm not saying they are, of course, because I know that's a conversation that never leads anywhere productive. I'm just saying you didn't pick a particularly good way to prove otherwise. :p)

My point was that a relationship with the fans can have an impact on where a guy signs. Damon refused to sign with the Sox because of how he was treated here. Schilling did. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying anything about the quality of the fans themselves.
 
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My point was that a relationship with the fans can have an impact on where a guy signs. Damon refused to sign with the Sox because of how he was treated here. Schilling did. That's all I was saying. I wasn't saying anything about the quality of the fans themselves.

Fair enough. There are definitely many players who have deliberately steered away from NYC because of the whole "atmosphere," part of which is the fans, part the media (who are merely feeding the worst nature of the fans). There are a-holes everywhere, but there are a couple regions where people have a detailed rationale for why their a-hole-ness is something positive and "authentic." The Boston-Philly corridor and the confederacy each have a version of that disease.
 
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Well, if the idea is to get away from lowest common denominator fans, I guess he could try Japan. Certainly not going to get any better treatment in Boston, Philly, etc.

i'd choose japan to go swimming in j-girls every night. :D
 
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On second thought, the Yankees can have him :p
 
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