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Minnesota Women's Hockey 2015-2016: Confection Free

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the frozen 4 last year didn't help either...east should have played west.
I think everybody but TTT wanted that. What we did learn in March last year was BSU > UM, UW > UND, UW > BSU, BU > BC, UW > BU, UM > UW, Harv > BC, UM > Harv. So just on those few results, one can wind up with support for all sorts of theories. I'd like it better had UM played BC last year and again this year. What would the results mean? Who knows, results can conflict in March, let alone in October or November. We used to beat Wisconsin every year in the fall, but never once it mattered.
 
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no, but they wont be as good without them...for a long time.
hence the initial post with the bad word that begins with g

Gopher players, on the other hand, have infinite eligibility and we never have to worry about replacing them.
 
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Time for some hard facts again.

Brandt named WCHA Offensive Player of the Week after her 5-goal, record rewriting explosion on Saturday. Here are links to the press releases from the league and from the team.
 
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Time for some hard facts again.

Brandt named WCHA Offensive Player of the Week after her 5-goal, record rewriting explosion on Saturday. Here are links to the press releases from the league and from the team.

Thank you for steering the thread back to where it should be.

Although it is a riveting, provincial debate over who has the best high school/prep school in girls hockey.
 
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I guess I don't understand what lacrosse has to do with hockey. I don't see SSM listed as a participant on the MSHSL site for girls hockey. Haven't checked the Strib hub. Are you telling me SSM could play in a high school conference if they wanted...girls hockey, that is? Maybe they could like Achiever did for a time?

I was just replying to your post wherein you said, "Not a member school of the Minnesota State High School League or eligible to compete in high school competition."
They are in fact a member of the MSHSL and compete against other high schools in some sports, including lacrosse, golf and gymnastics (but obviously not hockey).

Do MSHSL teams participate in the Elite League?
Girls who play on MSHSL teams certainly do participate, but after a tryout process they're formed into three "all star" teams that compete with SSM and other club teams from around the Midwest.
 
Girls who play on MSHSL teams certainly do participate, but after a tryout process they're formed into three "all star" teams that compete with SSM and other club teams from around the Midwest.
Right. In my opinion, not a high school hockey team.
 
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Right. In my opinion, not a high school hockey team.
Agreed. Although the players are of high school age and SSM is a high school, it pulls in girls from all of North America and does not play a high school schedule.
 
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"The Yale women's ice hockey team knocked off the defending national champions on the road last season (winning 3-2 at Clarkson in January), and the Bulldogs have two chances to accomplish the same feat this weekend."

"Chancellor and sophomore forward Brittany Wheeler (Maple Grove, Minn.) are the two Minnesotans on the Bulldogs' roster. Chancellor was an all-state selection and captain at The Blake School, and helped her team to back-to-back state championships in 2013 and 2014. Wheeler was captain at Benilde-St. Margaret's and helped the team to a second-place finish at the state tournament as a senior. She was honorable mention all-state twice."

Tonight will be a homecoming of sorts in that Brittany Wheeler played on the same line with Kelly Pannek and Caitlin Reilly on the above-referenced BSM team.

http://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/w-hockey/2015-16/releases/20151117k8s11e

Also note: Yale's main page on USCHO has the game starting at 6:07CT, which is of course incorrect.
 
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Either Yale played an unusually good game, or they're a lot better than a 1-5-1 team. They have some speed and quickness, and can do some interesting things with the puck. The Gopher penalty kill did not look good tonight, but Yale's first power play goal came when they kept the puck moving around in the offensive zone breaking down the penalty killers until there was a quality opening.

Yale's biggest problem is that they aren't very good right around either net, and especially their own. When Minnesota got the puck in close, they were able to crash the crease and keep playing pinball until something good happened.

The Gophers played very well in spurts, and half-heartedly in others. The biggest problem, obviously, was the penalty kill, and it's really the only significant concern I come away with.
 
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The PK percentage is getting to be a little embarrassing.

I have no major problems with a 3-0 first period lead ending up 6-3. Not all 3-0 leads end up being 10-1 finals. A 6-3 win is a good win.

It isn't even Thanksgiving yet. 20 games to go in the regular season before even the conference tournament.
 
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Either Yale played an unusually good game, or they're a lot better than a 1-5-1 team. They have some speed and quickness, and can do some interesting things with the puck. The Gopher penalty kill did not look good tonight, but Yale's first power play goal came when they kept the puck moving around in the offensive zone breaking down the penalty killers until there was a quality opening.

At the BC-Yale game last year I felt that Yale were very good in patches, not afraid to push the bounds of physicality (and to be honest benefited from a lot of homer refereeing) and had a couple of top-tier players, Staenz in particular. Did you notice a lot of physicality from them this game?

Surprised to see them get three past Leveille though. I wouldn't have thought they were that good. What's up with the Gopher D this year? You still have Stecklein.
 
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Surprised to see them get three past Leveille though. I wouldn't have thought they were that good.
They weren't. This was not a 6-3 game. Honestly it was more like a 9-1 game. Gophers didn't capitalize on numerous prime scoring chances, while Yale did on some marginal opportunities. I thought overall it was very similar to the last Gopher 8-3 win over Bemidji State, in that the outcome was never really in doubt, but giving up 3 goals in a game where Minnesota totally outplayed the opponent is a bit worrisome. Against a much stronger opponent, like a Wisconsin or a BC, you will likely not score 8 (or even 6) goals, but based on the last two games you would probably give up more than three to offenses more prolific than either a Bemidji or a Yale.

So, a relatively easy win, but reason to be a bit concerned? It's never as easy as you think it should be, but with the talent of this team - especially offensively - I would have frankly expected a much easier win. Therefore tomorrow I would expect the defense and goaltending to tighten things up, while the offense converts on a greater percentage of their Grade A chances than they did in tonight's 6-3 opening game win.
 
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At the BC-Yale game last year I felt that Yale were very good in patches, not afraid to push the bounds of physicality (and to be honest benefited from a lot of homer refereeing) and had a couple of top-tier players, Staenz in particular. Did you notice a lot of physicality from them this game?

Not really, though reading through the board, I often get the feeling that we define "physicality" a bit differently out here. I didn't think they rose to the level of the average WCHA team in that. Though, some of that may just be that the Gophers were just better at being physical. In front of the net and along the boards, Minnesota had a big advantage.

Surprised to see them get three past Leveille though. I wouldn't have thought they were that good. What's up with the Gopher D this year? You still have Stecklein.

In most of the games, the defensive problems have really been the forwards more than the defensemen. Tonight was something of an exception; by her standards, I thought Stecklein had a poor game, keeping in mind that that means she was just pretty good. The last two games, the goals they gave up only came after Minnesota had established a big lead. This team doesn't seem to keep the pedal down as much as previous teams have and close everything out. Unlike D2D, that doesn't concern me at all, until they show any sort of tendency to let up before they have a big lead, show an inability to turn it back on when things get close, or to do it against a really good team that has the firepower to complete a comeback.

So far, they haven't demonstrated any of those tendencies. I'm very much of the opinion that you simply can't deliver a top notch effort all the time, every period, every single game, though Bemidji challenges that belief. They came close in 2012-13, but that's not going to happen very often. Correctly picking and choosing when to back off is a very valuable skill, and the second and third periods (I thought Minnesota was very good in the first period tonight)of a non-conference game against a mid-to-lower ECAC team is an acceptable time to do so.

In weeks prior to Bemidji, and especially up in Grand Forks, I think a lot of suspect defense was injury related. As I said, it's been the forwards more than the defensemen, and against North Dakota, at least a part of the Brandt/Cameranesi/Potomak line was on the ice for every North Dakota goal on the weekend. Both Brandt and Cameranesi were nursing injuries, and it showed. The backchecking wasn't strong and they struggled when UND would move the puck around in the offensive zone. It wasn't just them, but that was a big part of it.

As of right now, I'm not worried about this team. Unlike some of the others, I think the Gopher/Badger match up in a couple of weeks looks pretty even, and possibly slightly in Wisconsin's favor, but that's because Wisconsin looks to be very, very good, not because I think we aren't. If we can just get to that series with three more wins and no more injuries, style points don't concern me.
 
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