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Minnesota @ Wisconsin: Secondary Rivalry, Just As Much Hatred

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4four4 said:
Many times when the Gophers lose out to the BADgers or any other school it is because the Gophers didn't give up enough money. That is how recruiting goes, the Gophers can't win them all.
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I'm sure it happens the other way around also. I know we've lost recruits coz they wanted to play right away and we needed them to wait a year.
 
Stauber1 said:
But what's funny is that they obviously take the time to learn all the cheers/moves/motions, but don't take the time to learn the game that they are watching. And it's not like it's complex stuff, really. Cheering when your team ices the puck...or getting vocally excited about a Badger carrying the puck into the offensive zone 1 on 2, shows a lack of understanding about even some of the most basic elements of hockey.
So, it really lends itself to ribs about the students being too busy planning their next dancing cheer to bother paying attention to the game.
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You say all this*, but I have personally witnessed more than a handful of visiting gophers fans make insanely stupid (and loud) complaints at games. This includes no fewer than two incidents where a gopher fan called out for an icing call on UW when we were killing a penalty. The point being: there are morons everywhere. I hope that you're looking at more than isolated incidents when you those kind of judgements.

Oh, and in keeping with rivalry: you're all self righteous ****s who go to games for spelling lessons and peace and quiet and yadda yadda yadda...

* And although I would agree that vast majority of Wisconsin Athletics fans don't give two shots about hockey, I do have a few nitpicks over what you claim that the fans who do care and actually show up to games do or don't cheer for.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I'm sure it happens the other way around also. I know we've lost recruits coz they wanted to play right away and we needed them to wait a year.
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Wisconsin lost out on Mike Sislo from Superior because he was only offered a half scholarship as opposed to the full ride he took at UNH. It happens more then we know.

PS...I'm still ****ed about that one. He turned out to be a really, really nice college hockey player.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
You say all this*, but I have personally witnessed more than a handful of visiting gophers fans make insanely stupid (and loud) complaints at games. This includes no fewer than two incidents where a gopher fan called out for an icing call on UW when we were killing a penalty. The point being: there are morons everywhere. I hope that you're looking at more than isolated incidents when you those kind of judgements.

Oh, and in keeping with rivalry: you're all self righteous ****s who go to games for spelling lessons and peace and quiet and yadda yadda yadda...

* And although I would agree that vast majority of Wisconsin Athletics fans don't give two shots about hockey, I do have a few nitpicks over what you claim that the fans who do care and actually show up to games do or don't cheer for.
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It's not an isolated incident, or akin to a single fan not paying attention to the penalty situation, when the majority of the student section is heard. And yes, I've personally been to more than a couple games at the Kohl center. And yes, I can hear it on TV when I'm back home in MN.
I'm obviously not the only one who has made this observation. There are plenty of others who have listed circumstances outside of the ones that I have listed where the fans at the Kohl center showed themselves to not really have the best understanding of the game.

Like I said, I think most people would agree that the students' enthusiasm is pretty neat. I'm not even necessarily making any judgements about the validity or quality of the crowd (as you are trying to imply that I am). But it does lend itself to those kind of jokes, for the very reasons I stated previously. And that's what my original post was about; in response to the question about where these comments about the students' choreography are coming from.

If you seriously want to try to say that the fans at the Kohl center exhibit the same kind of familiarity and knowledge with the game of hockey as fans at, say, Mariucci, or the DECC/Amsoil, or the NHC, or the Sanford Center, or the Ralph, or MacInnes Student Ice Center or Yost...well, I'd tell you that my impression is that you are being obtuse, and then agree to disagree with you.
 
Stauber1 said:
If you seriously want to try to say that the fans at the Kohl center exhibit the same kind of familiarity and knowledge with the game of hockey as fans at, say, Mariucci, or the DECC/Amsoil, or the NHC, or the Sanford Center, or the Ralph, or MacInnes Student Ice Center or Yost...well, I'd tell you that my impression is that you are being obtuse, and then agree to disagree with you.
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I'm getting sick of typing on a phone. I'll just say that you're putting a few arguments in my mouth that I'm not making.
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin: Secondary Rivalry, Just As Much Hatred

The majority of WI fans are loud, and want to be seen. A few know the game.

A majority of the MN fans are quiet (the admin has a LOT to do with that, banning things, using security to quiet loud fans, but still little excuse) and know a crapton about the game.

I'll take the latter.
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Are you saying the players from Minnesota that have chosen Wisconsin got more scholarship money at UW? I'm not sure how your post matches up with the one you quoted.
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That can be part of it. The other part is playing time. Right now, UW would have a recruiting advantage on that one since they appear to have some significant gaps that need to be filled in their lineup, which means they can dangle the carrot of powerplay time, etc to incoming recruits. All things equal, a larger role right away can mean a lot to a recruit (of course this sort of thing changes from year to year based on defections to the pros, etc).
 
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Bakunin said:
All things equal, a larger role right away can mean a lot to a recruit...
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And conversely, the opportunity to play on a winning team can mean a lot to a recruit too. If offering a larger role was that important the Gopher football team would be world-beaters! ;)
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin: Secondary Rivalry, Just As Much Hatred

Hey Wisconsin fans! Come into the Gophers/Huskies thread and pester the Minny fans! It'll be FANTASTIC.
 
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Dude Love said:
Hey Wisconsin fans! Come into the Gophers/Huskies thread and pester the Minny fans! It'll be FANTASTIC.
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They've got more important things to worry about...like their own team.
 
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They're too busy watching porn - i.e. their bootleg copies of "Bambi" where the doe gets shot by the hunter - and then ****ed.
 
Chuck Schwartz said:
I know your just messing around but here's a question for those that have commented on the dancing student section...why all the comments all of a sudden? This is the first year I've heard comments, and you're the first fan base to have an issue with it.

Every other team that comes in gives positive reviews. Recruits that are at the game love the atmosphere that it brings to the game as do their parents. Hell, your leader at Gopher Puck Live wrote an article about it saying how awesome it is, especially compared to the Mariucci student section after he first experienced it in person.

I guess I don't get the hate...envy? I truly don't know.

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Envious? That's funny. Chants are part of the game, and I actually enjoy the dancing and liveliness of your student section.

It's the stupid misuse of the sieve chant and the "Badger reject" chant that I am ripping on your fan base for (and it's not just the students doing it) because I believe it clearly demonstrates how unknowledgable they are. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

That's what you do with rivals. You rip on them for their short comings. And we've been ripping on you guys for this type of stuff for as long as I can remember.
 
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This p1ssing match is getting tired.. The Badgers have a very good program with solid coaching, lively fanbase with a very nice arena, i'm sure many kids WANT to play there. Even some kids from MN (not the reject theory), as MN has PLENTY UW grads with kids that im sure grew up rooting for the Badgers. I think that should be punishable by law btw, but it is what it is..

The kids in the student section may not know the sport (not saying they dont), maybe they're just learning and having fun while attending college? Nothing wrong with that imo..
 
mariucci said:
This p1ssing match is getting tired.. The Badgers have a very good program with solid coaching, lively fanbase with a very nice arena, i'm sure many kids WANT to play there. Even some kids from MN (not the reject theory), as MN has PLENTY UW grads with kids that im sure grew up rooting for the Badgers. I think that should be punishable by law btw, but it is what it is..

The kids in the student section may not know the sport (not saying they dont), maybe they're just learning and having fun while attending college? Nothing wrong with that imo..
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It's all in good fun. It wouldn't be a rivalry if you couldn't rip on the other side for their short comings. The Badgers may not have as large or as knowledgable of a fan base, but they do have some very loyal and knowledgable fans. No one is questioning the fan hood or knowledge of any of the Badger posters here (except the guy who said you aren't a Badger fan unless you support their football team).
 
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mariucci said:
This p1ssing match is getting tired..
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No it isn't, and it will outlast all of us.
I think that should be punishable by law btw, but it is what it is..
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Those families should be deported.
Nothing wrong with that imo..
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They're decked out in red - and dancing! Everything is wrong with it. All that dancing and not one person thought to show up in a deer costume.
 
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