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Minnesota Twins 2010: The Return of Outdoor Baseball

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JF_Gophers said:
I knew they did it for opening weekend (Apr 4-6), I just didn't see it as necessary 8 games into the season.

Also, almost as quirky is 3 day games during the week.
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Easier to re-schedule the make-up game in what's usually a rainy month.
 
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Greyeagle said:
I am SO glad the Twins didn't go the Miller Park route.
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It will be interesting how the weather plays out. With temps this year of course it makes it look good to have the outdoor stadium, but when it is 45 with some light rain the retractable roof makes very good sense.

Of course Miller Park had more than their share of leak problems with the roof, but I believe those are through.
 
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nmu_27 said:
It will be interesting how the weather plays out. With temps this year of course it makes it look good to have the outdoor stadium, but when it is 45 with some light rain the retractable roof makes very good sense.

Of course Miller Park had more than their share of leak problems with the roof, but I believe those are through.
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I think you take the few bad weather days with the overall big picture such as atmosphere and gorgeous spring, summer and fall days. Mpls isn't as warm as say Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Pitt, DC, Cleveland, Cincy, NY and Boston for instance, but I doubt it rains that much more often and those cities deal with it just fine.
 
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nmu_27 said:
It will be interesting how the weather plays out. With temps this year of course it makes it look good to have the outdoor stadium, but when it is 45 with some light rain the retractable roof makes very good sense.

Of course Miller Park had more than their share of leak problems with the roof, but I believe those are through.
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Sorry, but to me a roof never makes sense. At some point it will be cold/rainy/windy/snowy. Don't care. A roof means it equals a stadium where no roof means it equals a ballpark. I will always take a ballpark.
 
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Greyeagle said:
Sorry, but to me a roof never makes sense. At some point it will be cold/rainy/windy/snowy. Don't care. A roof means it equals a stadium where no roof means it equals a ballpark. I will always take a ballpark.
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I think the biggest thing you're forgetting is that the Twins are not the Cities team...they are for a large the team of the western midwest....how many fans from north dakota, south dakota or even northern minnesota are going to plop down $150 on tickets for the family with the chance it gets rained out and they can't make the new date? With miller park, I know unless there is some crazy act of god, there will be a game for the day I bought my tickets because there is a roof.
 
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Slap Shot said:
I think you take the few bad weather days with the overall big picture such as atmosphere and gorgeous spring, summer and fall days. Mpls isn't as warm as say Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Pitt, DC, Cleveland, Cincy, NY and Boston for instance, but I doubt it rains that much more often and those cities deal with it just fine.
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Ciskie posted earlier on facebook that Minneapolis and Detroit get the same amount of precip from April to October...
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
I think the biggest thing you're forgetting is that the Twins are not the Cities team...they are for a large the team of the western midwest....how many fans from north dakota, south dakota or even northern minnesota are going to plop down $150 on tickets for the family with the chance it gets rained out and they can't make the new date? With miller park, I know unless there is some crazy act of god, there will be a game for the day I bought my tickets because there is a roof.
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Ahhhh, the Sid Hartman argument. This will affect the shut ins too, you know. :p ;) :D

Seriously though, I've done over a dozen of road trips for ball games and it's a chance one takes. It seems half the Twins fans I run into on these trips are from outside the metro so there is a big chunk of fans who are willing to take the chance elsewhere. It's not a big deal.
 
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Greyeagle said:
Sorry, but to me a roof never makes sense. At some point it will be cold/rainy/windy/snowy. Don't care. A roof means it equals a stadium where no roof means it equals a ballpark. I will always take a ballpark.
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I agree after the dome, having an open park works better. I think the retractable roof made sense for Milwaukee. Both are beautiful parks and should draw huge numbers of fans.
 
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nmu_27 said:
I agree after the dome, having an open park works better. I think the retractable roof made sense for Milwaukee. Both are beautiful parks and should draw huge numbers of fans.
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Agreed! I'm not a fan of roofs over ballparks and Miller Park is my only experience inside a stadium with a retractable roof which is why I used it as an example. :)

A gravel pit would have been an improvement over the Metrodump. :D

On FB today a friend of mine said Jessie Crain should come with an unlimited supply of Tums. :D
What will we need for Raucsh? :confused: :eek:
 
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Greyeagle said:
Agreed! I'm not a fan of roofs over ballparks and Miller Park is my only experience inside a stadium with a retractable roof which is why I used it as an example. :)

A gravel pit would have been an improvement over the Metrodump. :D

On FB today a friend of mine said Jessie Crain should come with an unlimited supply of Tums. :D
What will we need for Raucsh? :confused: :eek:
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Raucsh? Hmmm
I say Billy Smith trades Delmon straight up to KC for Joakim Soria :eek:
 
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Hammer said:
This.

In the early 80's (I think it was 1982) the Tigers had their entire opening week snowed out.
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You don't have to go back that far with Cleveland being snowed out and having to play games in Milwaukee...
 
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Greyeagle said:
Sorry, but to me a roof never makes sense. At some point it will be cold/rainy/windy/snowy. Don't care.
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IMO, the biggest problem is that the dates for the World Series have gotten later and later as more playoff rounds have been added, so the most important games of the year are often played during poor baseball weather. I'm not sure how that can be fixed, because the teams don't want to sacrifice the revenue that 81 home dates generate.

Greyeagle said:
It seems half the Twins fans I run into on these trips are from outside the metro so there is a big chunk of fans who are willing to take the chance elsewhere. It's not a big deal.
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It won't be in the early years, and it won't matter to the most hardcore fans. But once the novelty wears off and local fans who want to be part of the latest trend (like the early years of the T'Wolves) drift away, they will miss the fans who have to travel 200+ miles for a game. The Twins brass has access to ticket sales figures and where those fans live, so maybe they've run simulations and decided that is an acceptable loss.

bigblue_dl said:
I say Billy Smith trades Delmon straight up to KC for Joakim Soria :eek:
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I wish you were the Royals' GM.:(
 
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I really dont think the "traveled from such and such miles away" factor is as big as some of you make it out to be. How many fans per game do you think are going to drive down from Grand Forks or Moorhead or up from Waterloo? A couple hundred? How many of them are just driving to Minneapolis for the game and leaving...maybe half that? From the Twins standpoint it will be at best negligible.

Now then the argument becomes "what about when the honeymoon period is over?" Well if the team stinks they aren't going to drive 200 miles to watch the team lose to the White Sox are they? And if they are and the game gets delayed they can just pick up tickets for tomorrows game since no one around here goes to watch a loser :p If they only have one day to do it, sorry you are SOL life sucks we all dont get everything we want. That may sound harsh but I would rather be a jerk in that regard than ruin the stadium with a roof.

Or I could go the real jerk route and say "considering it was taxes in Hennepin County that paid for the stadium, you can all bugger off!" :D ;) :eek:
 
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Greyeagle said:
Sorry, but to me a roof never makes sense. At some point it will be cold/rainy/windy/snowy. Don't care. A roof means it equals a stadium where no roof means it equals a ballpark. I will always take a ballpark.
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A retractable roof makes perfect sense. MN has one enjoyable month of the entire year baseball weather-wise, September.

When the novelty of the stadium wears off, when the fans that drive down from the Iron Range, NoDak, South Dakota, etc have to deal with the uncertainty of rainouts, snowouts, and things they haven't had to deal with in 40 years...someone is going to say: "maybe we should have had the best of both worlds and put a retractable roof on there."
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
A retractable roof makes perfect sense. MN has one enjoyable month of the entire year baseball weather-wise, September.

When the novelty of the stadium wears off, when the fans that drive down from the Iron Range, NoDak, South Dakota, etc have to deal with the uncertainty of rainouts, snowouts, and things they haven't had to deal with in 40 years...someone is going to say: "maybe we should have had the best of both worlds and put a retractable roof on there."
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What a load of crap.
 
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Greyeagle said:
What a load of crap.
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Baseball has changed tremendously since MN last had open air baseball.

It's not a load of crap. Your weather stinks, I've lived it.

Your summers are humid with thunderstorms, tornadoes and showers. Your spring some years doesn't truly start until mid May. :)

A retractable stadium makes sense in a city like Minneapolis. You have extreme weather there. Football, great place. Football doesn't get rained out.

Back when the Met existed, it was the era of day games and doubleheaders were the norm. It's changed.

Some teams get shafted by that. It's nice to have the option to close the dome and make baseball comfortable.
 
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