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Minnesota Twins 2010: The Return of Outdoor Baseball

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Terrierbyassociation said:
Baseball has changed tremendously since MN last had open air baseball.

It's not a load of crap. Your weather stinks, I've lived it.

Your summers are humid with thunderstorms, tornadoes and showers. Your spring some years doesn't truly start until mid May. :)

A retractable stadium makes sense in a city like Minneapolis. You have extreme weather there. Football, great place. Football doesn't get rained out.

Back when the Met existed, it was the era of day games and doubleheaders were the norm. It's changed.

Some teams get shafted by that. It's nice to have the option to close the dome and make baseball comfortable.
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You forgot igloos & polar bears are also here in our tropical rain forest.
 
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Greyeagle said:
Keep playing baseball games in your spreadsheets.
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OMG spreadsheets.

And apparently Handyman thinks the weather in MPLS and Chicago is the same and that he ignores how many day games the Cubs play, I don't think the Twins can play anywhere close to as many and always sell out despite the weather once the novelty of the stadium wears off.

The Cubs have a loyal fanbase that come out despite the weather. Twins don't have the same kind of fanbase or are you arguing that they do?

I think people will enjoy the ballpark, it looks beautiful. But there's a reason a lot of the stadiums with similar climates have roofs. I heard the concourses are all going to be well heated with heat lamps.
 
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Sorry, TBA but GE is right on this one. Minneapolis isn't the only market that has the chance at poor weather in MLB.

Just take last summer for example, I cannot remember a better summer in all the years I've lived here (which is almost my entire life sans maybe a summer or 2). I was disappointed having to walk into the dome last year because so many nights were perfect for baseball.

Rainouts are going to happen, but it happens everywhere. Yeah it might snow in April, it happens in other cities too. It's going to be cool in November, so what? That's MLB's problem for have the World Series seemingly later and later each year.

A roof would just ruin it for me. I want to be outside in the weather enjoying baseball. The rain/snow/cold is all a risk that seems acceptable to have a ballpark that is truly a ballpark.

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ajoyce02 said:
Sorry, TBA but GE is right on this one. Minneapolis isn't the only market that has the chance at poor weather in MLB.

Just take last summer for example, I cannot remember a better summer in all the years I've lived here (which is almost my entire life sans maybe a summer or 2). I was disappointed having to walk into the dome last year because so many nights were perfect for baseball.

Rainouts are going to happen, but it happens everywhere. Yeah it might snow in April, it happens in other cities too. It's going to be cool in November, so what? That's MLB's problem for have the World Series seemingly later and later each year.

A roof would just ruin it for me. I want to be outside in the weather enjoying baseball. The rain/snow/cold is all a risk that seems acceptable to have a ballpark that is truly a ballpark.

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Does a retractable roof make a ballpark not a ballpark? If it's open 90% of the time does it ruin the experience of the 10% of the time the ballpark is closed? I want open air over a dome. But I don't understand why people are anti-retractable roof.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
Does a retractable roof make a ballpark not a ballpark? If it's open 90% of the time does it ruin the experience of the 10% of the time the ballpark is closed? I want open air over a dome. But I don't understand why people are anti-retractable roof.
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I think even the possibility of a roof makes it more of a stadium, not a ballpark. I just don't like the idea. But that's me, I live around the cities and can go to the games any time I want.

Would a retractable roof have even been an option for the Twins? I imagine that requires some additional room around the outside of the site, which from what I've seen they didn't have.
 
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ajoyce02 said:
I think even the possibility of a roof makes it more of a stadium, not a ballpark. I just don't like the idea. But that's me, I live around the cities and can go to the games any time I want.

Would a retractable roof have even been an option for the Twins? I imagine that requires some additional room around the outside of the site, which from what I've seen they didn't have.
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I heard that at the sight of Target Field, there wasn't enough room for a retractable roof.
 
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ajoyce02 said:
I think even the possibility of a roof makes it more of a stadium, not a ballpark. I just don't like the idea. But that's me, I live around the cities and can go to the games any time I want.

Would a retractable roof have even been an option for the Twins? I imagine that requires some additional room around the outside of the site, which from what I've seen they didn't have.
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I've heard the same thing about retractable roof stadiums, we didn't want a stadium, we wanted a ballpark and we have one.(I still can't believe the state has done two arena/ballparks right, they're bound for a screw up)

Room was an issue at it's current location, as was cost.

People don't care to go to a football game in various weather elements, the Dome was the pussification of a generation of Minnesotans. You know why the Gopher football team wanted to play at Metrodome? To recruit southerners...Where's that thought gone??

We'll live, life will go on and we'll be just fine and if the people who are afraid of rain can stay home and leave tickets for people who want to go.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I heard that at the sight of Target Field, there wasn't enough room for a retractable roof.
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If true, that doesn't surprise me. I'm still a bit amazed they got it built on that site to begin with.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
I heard even before the site was chosen Twins ownership balked at the cost added by a retractable roof.
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I think cost was a factor too, I don't know if it was more because of the Pohlads or the state/county, though it was probably both that didn't want to pay for it.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
I heard even before the site was chosen Twins ownership balked at the cost added by a retractable roof.
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Thankfully...

I am actually looking forward to a game where weather becomes part of the story of a baseball game. The Twins could lose an otherwise-snoozer 6-1, but I may actually remember that particular game if the winds were blowing in 30 mph and Delmon actually tries to rob a HR only to hit his foot!

I was there yesterday, amazing. Well done. I was amazed to see T-shirts in left field in the sun, and jackets were I was sitting in the shade. All I can say is when the temp hits 95 on a day game, we will get even! :)
 
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pgrass01 said:
Thankfully...

I am actually looking forward to a game where weather becomes part of the story of a baseball game. The Twins could lose an otherwise-snoozer 6-1, but I may actually remember that particular game if the winds were blowing in 30 mph and Delmon actually tries to rob a HR only to hit his foot!
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pffft, that could have happened in the dome with him!
 
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pgrass01 said:
Thankfully...

I am actually looking forward to a game where weather becomes part of the story of a baseball game. The Twins could lose an otherwise-snoozer 6-1, but I may actually remember that particular game if the winds were blowing in 30 mph and Delmon actually tries to rob a HR only to hit his foot!

I was there yesterday, amazing. Well done. I was amazed to see T-shirts in left field in the sun, and jackets were I was sitting in the shade. All I can say is when the temp hits 95 on a day game, we will get even! :)
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This.
Weather is a good thing.
TBA - Agree to disagree? Truce? :)
 
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