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Minnesota Twins 2010: Part IV - Thome's Quest for 600

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ARM said:
it is about getting outs and wins, not saves.
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Apparently you haven't been watching baseball the last decade. It doesn't matter how good the guy in the 8th pitched. 95% of the time these days managers automatically bring in their closer if its a save situation.

I wish that wasn't the case, but there you have it.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
Apparently you haven't been watching baseball the last decade. It doesn't matter how good the guy in the 8th pitched. 95% of the time these days managers automatically bring in their closer if its a save situation.

I wish that wasn't the case, but there you have it.
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It's both of your answers. Managers nowadays are "conditioned" (for lack of a better word) to bring in Player X in situation Y, because that's what the book says.

It IS about getting outs and wins, and in a save situation, you MUST bring in your closer. :rolleyes:

How about going with the guy that got you there, if he still has gas in the tank? Radical, I know, but let's roll with it.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
Apparently you haven't been watching baseball the last decade.
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Yeah, but I also watched some in previous decades, where saves were only important because they meant you won, and if your best reliever needed to get 7 or 8 outs from time to time, he was able to do that. So my thinking is that if Captain Ron is a little less sure about who exactly his closer his, maybe he can concentrate more on managing the game and less about whether or not a given ballgame is a save situation. It kills me when a manager is watching a big lead unravel, but he refuses to bring his closer into the game until the potential tying run gets on deck. Forget the save -- win the game!
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
I may have played football against Joe Mauer in HS...whether he was on the team or not, we still would have gotten destroyed. :D
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thank Parise we never had to play CDH in football. It was bad enough playing De La Salle. I did get to weightlift with Joe Mauer in high school though. Super nice kid. Still is, too.

Brenthoven said:
It's both of your answers. Managers nowadays are "conditioned" (for lack of a better word) to bring in Player X in situation Y, because that's what the book says.

It IS about getting outs and wins, and in a save situation, you MUST bring in your closer. :rolleyes:

How about going with the guy that got you there, if he still has gas in the tank? Radical, I know, but let's roll with it.
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baseball, more then any other sport, is a percentage game. Managers who play the percentages over time are more likely going to win games. It's why they will bring in a pitcher to face one batter, because the percentages are there. Exciting for the fans? No. Hurts fantasy owners? Yes. Can help a team win a ball game? Usually, yes.

Perfect example was in the Rockies game against the Dodgers a few days ago. Ubaldo was pitching and was doing fine, working with a 1-0 lead. But he had 114 pitches going into the 8th. Jim Tracy kept him out there, where he promptly gave up a walk to Posednik and Theriot , then a double to Ethier. Jiminez should have been yanked and the win left up to the bullpen, but Tracy didn't play the percentages.
 
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3 closers and he goes to Guerrier?

I thought 7, 8, 9 were locked down now!
 
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That's a way to kill a potentially big inning. Is our 3B coach drunk?
 
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You know, Crain has a really good cut fastball (should have been a strike)
 
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That pitch was lower and further outside than the pitch he walked the previous batter on. Hilarious.
 
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