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Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
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Biddco
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Interesting factoid: This is the first all-Public School Class AA field since 2001.
Interesting factoid: This is the first all-Public School Class AA field since 2001.
Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
CLASS AA QUALIFIERS
•1AA - Lakeville North
•2AA - #5 Edina
•3AA - #10 Eagan
•4AA - White Bear Lake
•5AA - #14 Blaine
•6AA - #2 Eden Prairie
•7AA - #8 Duluth East
•8AA - #13 Moorhead
CLASS A QUALIFIERS
•1A - #3 Rochester Lourdes
•2A - #5 Breck
•3A - New Ulm
•4A - #1 St. Thomas Academy
•5A - #2 Hermantown
•6A - Alexandria
•7A - #10 Hibbing
•8A - #8 Thief River Falls
CLASS AA QUALIFIERS
•1AA - Lakeville North
•2AA - #5 Edina
•3AA - #10 Eagan
•4AA - White Bear Lake
•5AA - #14 Blaine
•6AA - #2 Eden Prairie
•7AA - #8 Duluth East
•8AA - #13 Moorhead
CLASS A QUALIFIERS
•1A - #3 Rochester Lourdes
•2A - #5 Breck
•3A - New Ulm
•4A - #1 St. Thomas Academy
•5A - #2 Hermantown
•6A - Alexandria
•7A - #10 Hibbing
•8A - #8 Thief River Falls
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Wednesday Class A Quarterfinal Matchups Announced:
11 a.m./ #2 seed Hermantown (23-3-2) vs. Alexandria (12-15-1)
1 p.m./ #3 seed Rochester Lourdes (24-3-1) vs. Hibbing (17-9-2)
6 p.m./ #1 seed St. Thomas Academy (22-6) vs. New Ulm (21-4-2)
8 p.m./ #4 seed Breck (20-8) vs. Thief River Falls (19-8-1)
Wednesday Class A Quarterfinal Matchups Announced:
11 a.m./ #2 seed Hermantown (23-3-2) vs. Alexandria (12-15-1)
1 p.m./ #3 seed Rochester Lourdes (24-3-1) vs. Hibbing (17-9-2)
6 p.m./ #1 seed St. Thomas Academy (22-6) vs. New Ulm (21-4-2)
8 p.m./ #4 seed Breck (20-8) vs. Thief River Falls (19-8-1)
Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Go TRF, New Ulm, Hibbing, and either Hermantown and Alex...
Go TRF, New Ulm, Hibbing, and either Hermantown and Alex...
JF_Gophers
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
As long as Edina doesn't win, the rest of the tournament should be fun to watch.
As long as Edina doesn't win, the rest of the tournament should be fun to watch.
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Thursday Class AA Quarterfinals:
11 a.m./ #2 seed Edina (18-7-1) vs. Blaine (20-4-4)
1 p.m./ #3 seed Duluth East (22-5) vs. White Bear Lake (21-5-2)
6 p.m./ #1 seed Eden Prairie (21-5-2) vs. Lakeville North (13-14-1)
8 p.m./ #4 seed Eagan (20-6-2) vs. Moorhead (18-7-2)
Surprised Eagan got the #4 seed over WBL
Thursday Class AA Quarterfinals:
11 a.m./ #2 seed Edina (18-7-1) vs. Blaine (20-4-4)
1 p.m./ #3 seed Duluth East (22-5) vs. White Bear Lake (21-5-2)
6 p.m./ #1 seed Eden Prairie (21-5-2) vs. Lakeville North (13-14-1)
8 p.m./ #4 seed Eagan (20-6-2) vs. Moorhead (18-7-2)
Surprised Eagan got the #4 seed over WBL
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Why? Blaine or Moorhead would have gotten it long before WBL...
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bigblue_dl
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Great section tourneys this year. 7 out of 8 AA section championship games went to OT, and the one that didn't was close. It should be a fun tournament with 7 teams that could win. (Sorry Lakeville North)
Great section tourneys this year. 7 out of 8 AA section championship games went to OT, and the one that didn't was close. It should be a fun tournament with 7 teams that could win. (Sorry Lakeville North)
bigblue_dl
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
I think it is time for the bbdl plan for MN high school hockey tournament format. Finally, a solution to the 2-class system, where private schools are allowed to play in single A and dominate.
The plan:
1. During the regular season, A and AA are not present, all teams play as part of one pool, but the section lines are still there, there would still be 8 sections, just with many more schools in each section.
2. At the end of the regular season, the 32 best teams in the state are chosen. You could use an RPI type system, or have a committee select the teams, dark, smokey room style. Either way, you end up with the top 32 teams in the state.
3. The remaining teams in the state compete in their section tournaments like happens now. This will still be a much larger group of teams than either section tournaments currently have, so it may lead to the regular season being shortened by 2-3 games, which I don't think is the end of the world. Also, sections like section 1, where maybe only 1-2 teams make the top 32, would have many more teams in the section than, say, section 6, which may have 5-6. Due to this, there may have to be a flexible section system, where either section lines are drawn each year after the 32 have been selected, or the option is there to shift a specified amount of teams from one section to another to even them out.
4. The top 32 play for the class AA championship, play it like the NCAA tournament, 2 weekends long. Instead of a weekend of section finals, and a weekend of state tournament, you have 2 weekends of state tournametn.
5. The rest of the teams, split into sections, go through a tournament, styled just like it is now, and play for the class A championship.
This plan does a couple things. First, it allows class AA teams that can't compete in AA, like St. Francis, Coon Rapids, Woodbury, etc. a chance to go to the state tournament. Second, it gives small schools that have that magical year, a chance at the big crown. There have been years where you could argue that the A champion is just as good as the AA champion, this is their chance to prove it.
Post 2 coming up with how it could play out this year.
I think it is time for the bbdl plan for MN high school hockey tournament format. Finally, a solution to the 2-class system, where private schools are allowed to play in single A and dominate.
The plan:
1. During the regular season, A and AA are not present, all teams play as part of one pool, but the section lines are still there, there would still be 8 sections, just with many more schools in each section.
2. At the end of the regular season, the 32 best teams in the state are chosen. You could use an RPI type system, or have a committee select the teams, dark, smokey room style. Either way, you end up with the top 32 teams in the state.
3. The remaining teams in the state compete in their section tournaments like happens now. This will still be a much larger group of teams than either section tournaments currently have, so it may lead to the regular season being shortened by 2-3 games, which I don't think is the end of the world. Also, sections like section 1, where maybe only 1-2 teams make the top 32, would have many more teams in the section than, say, section 6, which may have 5-6. Due to this, there may have to be a flexible section system, where either section lines are drawn each year after the 32 have been selected, or the option is there to shift a specified amount of teams from one section to another to even them out.
4. The top 32 play for the class AA championship, play it like the NCAA tournament, 2 weekends long. Instead of a weekend of section finals, and a weekend of state tournament, you have 2 weekends of state tournametn.
5. The rest of the teams, split into sections, go through a tournament, styled just like it is now, and play for the class A championship.
This plan does a couple things. First, it allows class AA teams that can't compete in AA, like St. Francis, Coon Rapids, Woodbury, etc. a chance to go to the state tournament. Second, it gives small schools that have that magical year, a chance at the big crown. There have been years where you could argue that the A champion is just as good as the AA champion, this is their chance to prove it.
Post 2 coming up with how it could play out this year.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
For this year the tournament would have looked like this: (I just used the USHSHO computer rankings, for simplicity)
1. Eden Prairie
2. Hill-Murray
3. Duluth East
4. Wayzata
5. Edina
6. Benilde-St. Margaret's
7. St. Thomas Academy
8. Burnsville
9. Eagan
10. Minnetonka
11. Maple Grove
12. Grand Rapids
13. Apple Valley
14. Bemidji
15. Blaine
16. Moorhead
17. White Bear Lake
18. Hermantown
19. Bloomington-Jefferson
20. Centennial
21. Lakeville South
22. Breck
23. Elk River
24. Cretin-Derham Hall
25. Rochester Lourdes
26. Stillwater
27. Roseville
28. Totino Grace
29. Cloquet
30. Warroad
31. Roseau
32. Holy Angels
I would go with 8 4 team clusters, each cluster winner makes it to the games at the Xcel the next weekend, clusters would be:
(arenas and days dependant on schedules of each arena's main tennant)
Games played at Mariucci, Thursday & Saturday:
1. Eden Prairie
2. Moorhead
3. White Bear Lake
4. Holy Angels
Games played at Mariucci, Friday & Saturday:
1. Edina
2. Grand Rapids
3. Lakeville South
4. Totino Grace
Games played at Amsoil Arena, Saturday & Sunday:
1. Duluth East
2. Bemidji
3. Hermantown (swapped with Bloomington-Jefferson, 1 spot, to save travel)
4. Warroad
Games played at National Hockey Center, Friday & Saturday:
1. Hill-Murray
2. Blaine
3. Bloomington-Jefferson (swapped with Hermantown)
4. Roseau
Games played at the Coliseum, Friday & Saturday:
1. Wayzata
2. Apple Valley
3. Centennial
4. Cloquet
Games played at the Coliseum, Thursday & Saturday:
1. Benilde-St. Margaret
2. Maple Grove
3. Breck
4. Roseville
Games played at Braemar/BIG/Aldrich, Friday & Saturday:
1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Minnetonka
3. Elk River
4. Stillwater
Games played at Verizon Wireless Center, Saturday & Sunday:
1. Burnsville
2. Eagan
3. Cretin-Derham Hall
4. Rochester Lourdes
For this year the tournament would have looked like this: (I just used the USHSHO computer rankings, for simplicity)
1. Eden Prairie
2. Hill-Murray
3. Duluth East
4. Wayzata
5. Edina
6. Benilde-St. Margaret's
7. St. Thomas Academy
8. Burnsville
9. Eagan
10. Minnetonka
11. Maple Grove
12. Grand Rapids
13. Apple Valley
14. Bemidji
15. Blaine
16. Moorhead
17. White Bear Lake
18. Hermantown
19. Bloomington-Jefferson
20. Centennial
21. Lakeville South
22. Breck
23. Elk River
24. Cretin-Derham Hall
25. Rochester Lourdes
26. Stillwater
27. Roseville
28. Totino Grace
29. Cloquet
30. Warroad
31. Roseau
32. Holy Angels
I would go with 8 4 team clusters, each cluster winner makes it to the games at the Xcel the next weekend, clusters would be:
(arenas and days dependant on schedules of each arena's main tennant)
Games played at Mariucci, Thursday & Saturday:
1. Eden Prairie
2. Moorhead
3. White Bear Lake
4. Holy Angels
Games played at Mariucci, Friday & Saturday:
1. Edina
2. Grand Rapids
3. Lakeville South
4. Totino Grace
Games played at Amsoil Arena, Saturday & Sunday:
1. Duluth East
2. Bemidji
3. Hermantown (swapped with Bloomington-Jefferson, 1 spot, to save travel)
4. Warroad
Games played at National Hockey Center, Friday & Saturday:
1. Hill-Murray
2. Blaine
3. Bloomington-Jefferson (swapped with Hermantown)
4. Roseau
Games played at the Coliseum, Friday & Saturday:
1. Wayzata
2. Apple Valley
3. Centennial
4. Cloquet
Games played at the Coliseum, Thursday & Saturday:
1. Benilde-St. Margaret
2. Maple Grove
3. Breck
4. Roseville
Games played at Braemar/BIG/Aldrich, Friday & Saturday:
1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Minnetonka
3. Elk River
4. Stillwater
Games played at Verizon Wireless Center, Saturday & Sunday:
1. Burnsville
2. Eagan
3. Cretin-Derham Hall
4. Rochester Lourdes
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
Kind-of. Just updated quite a bit, same basic idea, but I think doing it this way would keep it from being a failure.Seems to be an updated version of the epic fail which was Tier 1 / Tier 2 from the 90s.
Nothing more entertaining than the annual tournament time cryfest about private schools.
Handyman
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Re: Minnesota High School Hockey '10-'11
That is what I thought as well.
If teams like Warroad thinks they are good enough to win the AA tourny they should play up just like Roseau does. Beyond Waroad I dont think I remember a team that won the A that would have won AA.
Plus 32 teams in one tourny...this is high school anything more than 16 is overkill.
Seems to be an updated version of the epic fail which was Tier 1 / Tier 2 from the 90s.
Nothing more entertaining than the annual tournament time cryfest about private schools.
That is what I thought as well.
If teams like Warroad thinks they are good enough to win the AA tourny they should play up just like Roseau does. Beyond Waroad I dont think I remember a team that won the A that would have won AA.
Plus 32 teams in one tourny...this is high school anything more than 16 is overkill.