Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

[mwellens]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Green Bay Press-Gazette reporter Weston Hodkiewicz, who covers the Green Bay Gamblers, received confirmation today from Eric Rud that the Gamblers coach was in Houghton today interviewing for the job.

http://twitter.com/WesHod

Edit with PG story: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...n-Tech-job?odyssey=tab|topnews|img|GPG-Sports

 

[Burnt Orange Husky]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Actually a women's program was a consideration not that far back. You may be surprised at the level of talent that is nearby.

Back in the 70s, I was at Northwood's in Hancock and saw a pair of hockey skates with white side panels and black trim. I remember telling the salesman that they looked cool and he looked down his nose and drolly replied, "Those are ladies hockey skates."

You're correct. Many high schools in the U.P. have girls teams. It's a shame not to take advantage of that local resource. I wonder how many Yooper girls are playing on other college teams. Recruiting should be easy...lots of men!

 

[technohusky]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Back in the 70s, I was at Northwood's in Hancock and saw a pair of hockey skates with white side panels and black trim. I remember telling the salesman that they looked cool and he looked down his nose and drolly replied, "Those are ladies hockey skates."

Something like this but with blades? I can see how you thought they were cool.

 

[Burnt Orange Husky]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Something like this but with blades? I can see how you thought they were cool.

No, the 70s not the 50s. Like this, a true hockey blade with no picks but the blade supports were chrome:

 

[technohusky]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

No, the 70s not the 50s. Like this, a true hockey blade with no picks but the blade supports were chrome:

oh ok

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

You're correct. Many high schools in the U.P. have girls teams. It's a shame not to take advantage of that local resource. I wonder how many Yooper girls are playing on other college teams. Recruiting should be easy...lots of men!

There are 0 yooper girls on a D1 team that finished the season ranked in the USCHO poll. I haven't dug deeper than that. And actually there are only 5 from all of Michigan that were on a team ranked in a final poll:

Taylor Wasylk - Boston College
Madison Packer - Wisconsin
Geena Prough - Wisconsin
Margot Miller - North Dakota
Ashley Cottrell - Providence

To put that in perspective, there are 2-3 high schools in MN that have more players on those teams than the state of Michigan. Not exactly a hotbed for girls hockey...

edit: I found a Yooper! Quinnipiac's 3rd string goalie is from Champion. She got time in one game and saw one shot.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

There are 0 yooper girls on a D1 team that finished the season ranked in the USCHO poll. I haven't dug deeper than that. And actually there are only 5 from all of Michigan that were on a team ranked in a final poll:

Taylor Wasylk - Boston College
Madison Packer - Wisconsin
Geena Prough - Wisconsin
Margot Miller - North Dakota
Ashley Cottrell - Providence

To put that in perspective, there are 2-3 high schools in MN that have more players on those teams than the state of Michigan. Not exactly a hotbed for girls hockey...

It doesn't help that Michigan's only D1 program is Wayne State...

 

[manurespreader]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't this subject been discussed before Ad nauseam!

Also pretty funny how something goes from this board to the sports page of the green bay paper in no time isn't it?

 

[geezer]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

To put that in perspective, there are 2-3 high schools in MN that have more players on those teams than the state of Michigan. Not exactly a hotbed for girls hockey...

MN is light years ahead of MI in girls hockey*. My wife played HS hockey for Wayzata way back in the early 90s. It was unheard of up here at the time that a girl would play beyond Squirts. There were certainly no girls teams then.
If you'll check over on Yahoo, it's apparent that I'm kicking your *** right now. Should've started Sizemore and Norris.

*BUT the yooper girls U16 team just finished 2nd at nationals.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

MN is light years ahead of MI in girls hockey. My wife played HS hockey for Wayzata way back in the early 90s. It was unheard of up here at the time that a girl would play beyond Squirts. There were certainly no girls teams then.
If you'll check over on Yahoo, it's apparent that I'm kicking your *** right now. Should've started Sizemore and Norris.

I haven't really been paying attention. I suppose I should change my lineup, the only thing I have done lately is put Liriano in the starting lineup and his game was rained out. Sizemore is still on my DL, I can't decide who to drop to make room for him.

 

[Greenbayguy]

You sure know a lot for a guy in Green Bay

If I know the answer, I try to answer. Otherwise I spew opinions on the matter ~ much like other posters. My personal opinion is that if MTU doesn't at least talk to Eades, post-Mel, it will be a mistake.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

If I know the answer, I try to answer. Otherwise I spew opinions on the matter ~ much like other posters. My personal opinion is that if MTU doesn't at least talk to Eades, post-Mel, it will be a mistake.

I couldn't agree more, but Rud and Hastings are quality candidates.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

If I know the answer, I try to answer. Otherwise I spew opinions on the matter ~ much like other posters. My personal opinion is that if MTU doesn't at least talk to Eades, post-Mel, it will be a mistake.

To expand on this...do you know for a fact that MTU and Eades haven't chatted...and just decided that its not a fit for whatever reason without bringing him up to Houghton?

 

[JOHN SCOTT ROCKS]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

I couldn't agree more, but Rud and Hastings are quality candidates.

I agree 100% on Hastings. Near 20 years coaching experience, most winning coach in USHL history, never a season below .500 winning percentage, GM of the year several times. One year under Lucia, two years under Dean Blais and a couple years early on in St. Cloud. Rud, I'm not so sure he is proven enough to be in Hastings class and be considered a quality candidate for MTU at this point. 7 years total experience, 1 as a head coach. He has been fairly successful in his career.

Regarding recruiting, I would give Hastings the nod there as well with his close ties to the USHL. I also think Hastings would do a better job of marketing MTU than Rud based on their public speaking skills. I do not know if Rud will be enough to convince a Ben Johnson to turn down Michigan; with Hastings I think he comes to Tech.

I am not saying that Rud, if hired, couldn't turn out to be a great coach; I just don't believe he has a long enough track record. Not as a personal dig at Rud in any respect, but just based on his lack of experience, I think that if hired the first reaction by the hockey world will be "I thought resources weren't an issue". If Dean Blais was pursued, the money is available so how does Eric Rud become the final candidate.

Apparently, Tech doesn't feel it is worth putting down the money for a Hastings (based on my opinion that Hastings has likely turned down MTU if Rud is interviewing) or Pearson to ultimately turn their "no thanks" into "when do I start". I don't really understand that because I realize they stated pay is comm. on experience but they should have also known going into this that they are going to have to pay more at this point than a program in good standing would have to pay (ask the Edmonton Oilers about attracting big name free agents- they have to pay alot more than the wings). So in four years at $150-$175, if taking the bargain coach puts Tech back into the same position they are now, wouldn't over paying maybe 50-75K per year be worth it to get the candidate you want. I think it's a big risk to not get the best possible candidate now even if it's considered overpaying for the candidate. If the program turns around, it will be a good investment and pay for itself; if not she can't be faulted for trying. If I was Mrs. Sanregret, I would not be comfortable taking this risk.

 

[manurespreader]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

I do not know if Rud will be enough to convince a Ben Johnson to turn down Michigan; with Hastings I think he comes to Tech.

I am not saying that Rud, if hired, couldn't turn out to be a great coach; I just don't believe he has a long enough track record. Not as a personal dig at Rud in any respect, but just based on his lack of experience, I think that if hired the first reaction by the hockey world will be "I thought resources weren't an issue". If Dean Blais was pursued, the money is available so how does Eric Rud become the final candidate.

Apparently, Tech doesn't feel it is worth putting down the money for a Hastings (based on my opinion that Hastings has likely turned down MTU if Rud is interviewing) or Pearson to ultimately turn their "no thanks" into "when do I start". I don't really understand that because I realize they stated pay is comm. on experience but they should have also known going into this that they are going to have to pay more at this point than a program in good standing would have to pay (ask the Edmonton Oilers about attracting big name free agents- they have to pay alot more than the wings). So in four years at $150-$175, if taking the bargain coach puts Tech back into the same position they are now, wouldn't over paying maybe 50-75K per year be worth it to get the candidate you want. I think it's a big risk to not get the best possible candidate now even if it's considered overpaying for the candidate. If the program turns around, it will be a good investment and pay for itself; if not she can't be faulted for trying. If I was Mrs. Sanregret, I would not be comfortable taking this risk.

I disagree to some extend. There is more to an interview than experience, and certainly Hastings on paper is the better candidate, but when you interview you have to factor in the person, how they fit in, what they bring to the table from a number of points of view. Its' possible she might like someone better or find them a better candidate even of they are slightly less qualified. I mean Gadowsky might not be the most qualified, but they were clearly happy with him from other points of view. Also check out the raise that Blashill got.

I also disagree that Hastings has walked, you don't know that.
I think she talks to Eades this week, possibly Guentzel too I hope, and we hear a decision by monday.

 

[giwan]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

Back in the 70s, I was at Northwood's in Hancock and saw a pair of hockey skates with white side panels and black trim. I remember telling the salesman that they looked cool and he looked down his nose and drolly replied, "Those are ladies hockey skates." You're correct. Many high schools in the U.P. have girls teams. It's a shame not to take advantage of that local resource. I wonder how many Yooper girls are playing on other college teams. Recruiting should be easy...lots of men!

Several are on Div II/III teams not aware of any on Div I at this time. Two girls teams from the UP won the state championships and went on to play at the national championships.

The inside info was that Tech needed $1 mil to even consider starting a women's program.

 

[Houghton77]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

I disagree to some extend. There is more to an interview than experience, and certainly Hastings on paper is the better candidate, but when you interview you have to factor in the person, how they fit in, what they bring to the table from a number of points of view. Its' possible she might like someone better or find them a better candidate even of they are slightly less qualified. I mean Gadowsky might not be the most qualified, but they were clearly happy with him from other points of view. Also check out the raise that Blashill got.

I also disagree that Hastings has walked, you don't know that.
I think she talks to Eades this week, possibly Guentzel too I hope, and we hear a decision by monday.

It appears Suzanne and the crew have shifted gears and are going to talk with a few more candidates. I am not sure where this leaves Hastings, my gut feeling is that it is still his job if he wants it.

 

[Greenbayguy]

To expand on this...do you know for a fact that MTU and Eades haven't chatted...and just decided that its not a fit for whatever reason without bringing him up to Houghton?

The information I heard at the Minnesota Advanced Festival, was that Eades and Tech had a conversation prior to Mel being in Houghton. I don't know if he ever made it further in the process, and don't know if he's been to Houghton.

 

[yooper(UP) hockey]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

It appears Suzanne and the crew have shifted gears and are going to talk with a few more candidates. I am not sure where this leaves Hastings, my gut feeling is that it is still his job if he wants it.

The obvious question, who?

 

[yooper(UP) hockey]

Re: Michigan Tech needs a new coach, what do you say Cary Eades?

I agree 100% on Hastings. Near 20 years coaching experience, most winning coach in USHL history, never a season below .500 winning percentage, GM of the year several times. One year under Lucia, two years under Dean Blais and a couple years early on in St. Cloud. Rud, I'm not so sure he is proven enough to be in Hastings class and be considered a quality candidate for MTU at this point. 7 years total experience, 1 as a head coach. He has been fairly successful in his career.

Regarding recruiting, I would give Hastings the nod there as well with his close ties to the USHL. I also think Hastings would do a better job of marketing MTU than Rud based on their public speaking skills. I do not know if Rud will be enough to convince a Ben Johnson to turn down Michigan; with Hastings I think he comes to Tech.

I am not saying that Rud, if hired, couldn't turn out to be a great coach; I just don't believe he has a long enough track record. Not as a personal dig at Rud in any respect, but just based on his lack of experience, I think that if hired the first reaction by the hockey world will be "I thought resources weren't an issue". If Dean Blais was pursued, the money is available so how does Eric Rud become the final candidate.

Apparently, Tech doesn't feel it is worth putting down the money for a Hastings (based on my opinion that Hastings has likely turned down MTU if Rud is interviewing) or Pearson to ultimately turn their "no thanks" into "when do I start". I don't really understand that because I realize they stated pay is comm. on experience but they should have also known going into this that they are going to have to pay more at this point than a program in good standing would have to pay (ask the Edmonton Oilers about attracting big name free agents- they have to pay alot more than the wings). So in four years at $150-$175, if taking the bargain coach puts Tech back into the same position they are now, wouldn't over paying maybe 50-75K per year be worth it to get the candidate you want. I think it's a big risk to not get the best possible candidate now even if it's considered overpaying for the candidate. If the program turns around, it will be a good investment and pay for itself; if not she can't be faulted for trying. If I was Mrs. Sanregret, I would not be comfortable taking this risk.

Hastings and Rud together maybe....