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Maine Recruit Updates: The Search for Spock

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So what about the money for Randall and Orsini? Is that still "dead" scholarship money too? And would Sill and Czuba have graduated by now, because if not I guess Tim can't give that money to anyone else. Ditto for Sweetland? Thank god the Purcell scholly's finally coming off the books next year huh.

Your logic is so flawed it's laughable.

Their dads coach at maine as well?

Thats one heck of a staff they have up there at Alfond. Yiannis Pizza is looking for a delivery driver, hurry over before your one shot at carear advancement goes out the window
 
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Their dads coach at maine as well?

Lets say a players dad is a professor at Maine. Does the NCAA forbid that player from taking advantage of the half price tuition offer? Or is it just coaches kids?
 
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Lets say a players dad is a professor at Maine. Does the NCAA forbid that player from taking advantage of the half price tuition offer? Or is it just coaches kids?

Matt McKerrow.
 
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Matt McKerrow.

Of course it is only the coach but would be scrutinized if a game was played and dad brought in same time. Even an appearance of something fishy would be investigated. AKA the Blindside.... 5 Year exempt period is an NCAA rule put in place specifically for situations like this. We can go around in circles and point out off the wall examples but this one is black and white.

I bet if a kids dad took a job and they found out, and used half off and had an extra scolarship, the NCAA would 100% take a look at it.

Every kid who gets a discount on tuition has to have it reported to the NCAA. You can bet their staff looks at it very hard.
 
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Matt McKerrow.

Vince Guidotti.

I'm trying to clear this up in my mind. If an employee has a son or daughter playing a sport and attending Maine, does the 50% reduction in tuition (dollars) count against the 18 scholarships available to the team?
 
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Vince Guidotti.

I'm trying to clear this up in my mind. If an employee has a son or daughter playing a sport and attending Maine, does the 50% reduction in tuition (dollars) count against the 18 scholarships available to the team?

Not as far as I know, but I only wrote scholarships in the Maine hockey office so I'm not an expert like Hokydad.
 
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Vince Guidotti.

I'm trying to clear this up in my mind. If an employee has a son or daughter playing a sport and attending Maine, does the 50% reduction in tuition (dollars) count against the 18 scholarships available to the team?

Maybe check with Steve Cedorchuk:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
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Not as far as I know, but I only wrote scholarships in the Maine hockey office so I'm not an expert like Hokydad.

Thanks. It seems to me that the reduced tuition is a standard policy that is available to all students who have a parent employed by the University, whether they play a varsity sport or not. I guess it depends on your definition of a scholarship.
 
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Not as far as I know, but I only wrote scholarships in the Maine hockey office so I'm not an expert like Hokydad.

No wonder Maine got in trouble with the NCAA...

Out of sheer boredom I called the NCAA and asked them and they explained the rule. I also found it to be a very interesting question. There are things called exempt and non exempt aid. If Bobby Corkums son received a 50% discount because he was a coach/employee, it would go against their scholarships if he had been on staff less then 5 years.

You are wrong, 100% wrong.

Call the NCAA if you want the facts.
 
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Hokydud is correct. The 50% tuition waiver for faculty dependents counts against the total allowable aid if the waiver is granted to the son or daughter of a coach who has been at the university for less than five years.

Anyone who is really curious can download the 470+ page NCAA rules and regulations manual and read it for himself. If Hokydud had done that, he would know that there is no such thing as a four-year commitment to a student-athlete. The rules are very specific that financial aid commitments can never exceed a term of one year. In fact, the rules are specific to the point that they say that a student-athlete may be told that normal procedure is for financial aid commitments to be renewed every year for four years, but they also state that he MUST be told that such renewal CANNOT be automatic.

I don't know if there is a specific NCAA rule that prohibits a coach from promising a four-year scholarship--if there is such a rule, it does not appear in the section that covers financial aid. However, the rules are clear that if a coach makes such a promise and renegs on it, the fact that the coach has reneged is NOT a matter of concern to the NCAA.

By the way, people should understand that there are lots of rules covering lots of things in the 470+ pages of the NCAA rules manual. When we first considered running color photographs in the Friends of Maine Hockey Newsletter, someone (probably Joe Roberts) said we should check with the compliance officer to make sure there wouldn't be a problem. Sure enough, there's a rule that says that printed materials used in recruiting can use four-color printing only on the front and back covers. That's why none of the inside pages have color photos.
 
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Anyone know of any websites the display/rank unsigned recruits?
 
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Hokydud is correct.

By the way, people should understand that there are lots of rules covering lots of things in the 470+ pages of the NCAA rules manual. .

I have not yet seen where Hockydad has been wrong... the guy knows his stuff.... pity you are jumping on the name calling, DW...

Second, there ARE lots of rules... many of them are overlooked, depending on who the player/school in question is.
 
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interestingly, I posted that... before I deleted it.

great minds...

:rolleyes:

If Shawn didn't like the rules, he just made his own. But I'm sure you would have read the rulebook and pointed out to him exactly how he was breaking NCAA rules ;)

Edit: And, what a surprise...you've deleted this too. :rolleyes:
 
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If Hokydud had done that, he would know that there is no such thing as a four-year commitment to a student-athlete. The rules are very specific that financial aid commitments can never exceed a term of one year.

Never once said anything to the contrary. I am well aware of the fact that a 4/4 is simply verbal and they are done every year
 
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i think people are getting a little up in the air over this for no reason... aside from his comment about wanting to come east (which didn't happen at all) do we even know if maine was actively trying to recruit him? all this speculation is based on his statements and nothing more...

that said, judging from his stats, he appears to be very talented, and would certainly be a solid DI goalie...

http://www.adn.com/2010/03/24/1198079/anchorage-goalie-summerhays-commits.html

Apparently, Maine was recruiting him.
 
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If someone wants to major in pre-med, and Maine doesn't offer pre-med, I don't think you can really be too upset.

Maine offers pre-med just like anyone else. There might not be a major, but there is a committee and a chair who writes recommendations specifically for pre-med students.
I do not think that Maine does poorly in getting its top organic chem students (e.g.) into med school, although, unlike a lot of other majors, the organic chem professors might not be so keen on letting student athletes miss a day of class a week for the entire hockey season.
Maybe Notre Dame's pre-med professors will bend rules for its big men on campus? and maybe Maine will not
 
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So are there any solid goaltenders that have yet to committ that could come in and make this Maine team a legit NCAA title contender? BU got Milan late and we all know how that turned out for the Terriers.
 
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Scott Smith really missed that boat, then huh?

I didn't say you couldn't become a doctor, I'm just saying the kid says he wants to major in "pre-med." Which Maine does not explicitly offer (anymore?). The (3 or 4) kids I went to school with that are now in med school majored in biology or the like.
 
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If someone wants to major in pre-med, and Maine doesn't offer pre-med, I don't think you can really be too upset.

plenty of pre-med students go to Maine. I knew a few that majored in Biology. One is now at Dartmouth Medical School. UMaine has two guaranteed spots in Dartmouth Medical School for each graduating class, and a number of guaranteed spots in UNE's medical school.
 
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