Given all his grandfather did for the school, I wonder why Justin Alfond never took up this cause? It's baffling to me that months get spent on nonsense like some politically incorrect comment or hiring a few extra drug enforcement agents while serious issues like this are completely ignored.
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Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
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Given all his grandfather did for the school, I wonder why Justin Alfond never took up this cause? It's baffling to me that months get spent on nonsense like some politically incorrect comment or hiring a few extra drug enforcement agents while serious issues like this are completely ignored.
GoBlackBears
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Drop Football before Hockey. No one would even notice football was gone.
Drop Football before Hockey. No one would even notice football was gone.
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Wait, you expect politicians to concentrate on things that are really important? Seriously???
Wait, you expect politicians to concentrate on things that are really important? Seriously???
walrus
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
The important stuff is hard, the silly crap is easy. What if they proposed cuts to UMKF, cut some duplicate program that could be had elsewhere, you suppose John Martin will go along? Hardly. Its the same for every campus, whoever the local rep or senator, they are going to fight tooth and nail to keep the program in their area. While the whole thing goes down the tubes.
The important stuff is hard, the silly crap is easy. What if they proposed cuts to UMKF, cut some duplicate program that could be had elsewhere, you suppose John Martin will go along? Hardly. Its the same for every campus, whoever the local rep or senator, they are going to fight tooth and nail to keep the program in their area. While the whole thing goes down the tubes.
If I win powerball I'll endow 20 chairs in computer science and computer engineering and also endow 40 scholarships a year. Screw athletics. hopefully at least some of those kids would stick around and create startups in the state.
NorthMike
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Its been discussed before that the lack of money has affected the hockey program, I agree. Not sure why money is a problem though. A few years ago BDN ran a piece on sports funding at UMO, pretty good as I looked at it again the other day, the hockey program brought in more revenue than it spends, or least in the past. Why has the hockey been funding other sports programs and not used to maintain it healthy and strong? Could be bad sports management I'd say.
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/08/24/sports/are-umaine-sports-worth-the-cost/
I'd also like to know what Learfield sports does for Hockey, and how much money is syphoned to them for bad marketing or whatever their suppose to do?
Its been discussed before that the lack of money has affected the hockey program, I agree. Not sure why money is a problem though. A few years ago BDN ran a piece on sports funding at UMO, pretty good as I looked at it again the other day, the hockey program brought in more revenue than it spends, or least in the past. Why has the hockey been funding other sports programs and not used to maintain it healthy and strong? Could be bad sports management I'd say.
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/08/24/sports/are-umaine-sports-worth-the-cost/
I'd also like to know what Learfield sports does for Hockey, and how much money is syphoned to them for bad marketing or whatever their suppose to do?
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Not as pressure packed to go all out for raising funds and he does not have the Shadow of Shawn Walsh over him as he did @ Maine...which he wouldn't and couldn't handle. He had his time and many/many chances...he's where he should be...the bad move was Maine's slow pace to get people interviewed and ready to go the day they Fired TW. They had no plan and it shows now.
NorthMike
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Maine got who they wanted. Montgomery was never a legitimate candidate.
Maine got who they wanted. Montgomery was never a legitimate candidate.
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Lol at this drop football idea that won't go away. Do that and Maine will be down to 3 to 5 sports total within a couple years and will cease being a viable division 1 institution. How many womens scholarships become expendable for title 9 purposes when you slice off 50 or 60 football kids? They already dumped volleyball and men's soccer. The notion is a joke.
Lol at this drop football idea that won't go away. Do that and Maine will be down to 3 to 5 sports total within a couple years and will cease being a viable division 1 institution. How many womens scholarships become expendable for title 9 purposes when you slice off 50 or 60 football kids? They already dumped volleyball and men's soccer. The notion is a joke.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
I don't think that Gendron was a pre-planned hiring...if he was that is further proof that our Hobby AD at the time was too busy down in Portland then his real PAID Job @ Orono.(imo).
NorthMike
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
I suspect Montgomery's salary requirement was well beyond what the athletic dept could consider.
I suspect Montgomery's salary requirement was well beyond what the athletic dept could consider.
BBDiehard14
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
We could've gotten rid of Cosgrove earlier........but no
We could've gotten rid of Cosgrove earlier........but no
GoBlackBears
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Money had nothing to do with it and wasn't the reason he was not given an interview.
Money had nothing to do with it and wasn't the reason he was not given an interview.
GoBlackBears
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Athletic Department really blew their chance.
Athletic Department really blew their chance.
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Well, if you think Montgomery was the guy (like others do as well), you can blame the previous AD.
Well, if you think Montgomery was the guy (like others do as well), you can blame the previous AD.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Pretty much know the WHY(reason)he wasn't going to be asked and not even considered if Denver had not went after him quickly and with no regret...but there are a-lot of others out there that have gotten a second chance @ Maine...if I remember correctly the Late(R.I.P)Shawn Walsh was a benefactor and that turned out good for him and the Hockey Program...but all of this is moot...the PROBLEM right now is the direction this Program has been steered into and where it may crash and burn forever. No easy answers, but it is sure maddening and outright shame to see this once Top Program going down the drain without a FIGHT. JUST 2-BAD imo.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Fishman'81
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Re: Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater
Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.
But one thing needs to be appreciated: some of the "cost" of athletics is measured in phantom dollars. It's a shell-game at its heart.
Example: A lot of kids get partial schollies and pay the difference, which could still turn a profit for the school... And even in the case of a full-ride one has to calculate the actual cost to the school vs. the sticker price asked. (I figure that they must keep two sets of books, just to assess the genuine bottom-line.)
Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.
But one thing needs to be appreciated: some of the "cost" of athletics is measured in phantom dollars. It's a shell-game at its heart.
Example: A lot of kids get partial schollies and pay the difference, which could still turn a profit for the school... And even in the case of a full-ride one has to calculate the actual cost to the school vs. the sticker price asked. (I figure that they must keep two sets of books, just to assess the genuine bottom-line.)
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