Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

[gscott13]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Thanks for the info, but I apparently don't have whatever package is required to receive that because there's just a banner that says women's bball and "Not Authorized" just above the CBSCH in the middle of the screen. I was at the Alfond and saw it there, but it would be fun to watch it on TV too. I wonder what package I'd need to be able to receive that channel. Oops, I see you answered that question already.

So, how are the Bears looking tonight?

it's included in tw's extended sports pack ($5.95/month) and includes 3 fox college sports channels (which will get you a number of games from out west)

if you call them up they will activate it while you are on the phone with them and it'll be live w/i minutes... conversely, when the season is over, you can drop it just as quickly

 

[lkenney]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Maine beats BC and suddenly the Black Bears are out of the NCAA tourney as it stands right now.

That was the result of Merrimack beating BU on Tuesday. Plenty of opportunity to jump back up. Merrimack at Alfond twice.

 

[sandiegoblkbr]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

That was the result of Merrimack beating BU on Tuesday. Plenty of opportunity to jump back up. Merrimack at Alfond twice.

Actually it is the result of the NCAA changing the TUC component for PWR rankings this season. USCHO decided to switch to the new formula after last weekend's results.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Actually it is the result of the NCAA changing the TUC component for PWR rankings this season. USCHO decided to switch to the new formula after last weekend's results.

I'd say it's the result of Maine doing its annual tank job

 

[Hockeypuck]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Actually it is the result of the NCAA changing the TUC component for PWR rankings this season. USCHO decided to switch to the new formula after last weekend's results.

If Maine didn't choke away the game against UNH in the last minute they'd be sitting at 8 in the PWR instead of 17. I'd say they've done a nice job digging their own hole now it's up to them to win the games that will get them out of that hole.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Actually it is the result of the NCAA changing the TUC component for PWR rankings this season. USCHO decided to switch to the new formula after last weekend's results.

Ahahahaha. Oh sure, it was USCHO that changed the PWR.

 

[Howitz-ah]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

If Maine didn't choke away the game against UNH in the last minute they'd be sitting at 8 in the PWR instead of 17. I'd say they've done a nice job digging their own hole now it's up to them to win the games that will get them out of that hole.

I know there will be less movement per game once the entire season is played, but we're over 60% there...

that much movement this deep in is a pretty good testiment to how fragile this system is. That's why I was having my little meltdown over the fact that they weren't beating ANYONE worth talking about and each game can mean so much in the long run. One extra win we should have had. Things like that. If those North Dakota games were at the Ralph, boy would we be screwed.

 

[5IslandsWildcat]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr: Actually it is the result of the NCAA changing the TUC component for PWR rankings this season. USCHO decided to switch to the new formula after last weekend's results.

If Maine didn't choke away the game against UNH in the last minute they'd be sitting at 8 in the PWR instead of 17. I'd say they've done a nice job digging their own hole now it's up to them to win the games that will get them out of that hole.

After the PWR TUC adjustment, Maine dropped from 12 to 17 after its win over BC, and UNH went from 9 to 6t after its loss to Dartmouth. Bewildering to be sure, but you guys will be fine. Northeastern is no help this weekend, so a must win. Then take 2 from BU. See you Feb 4-5 at the Whitt, and good luck until then.

 

[5IslandsWildcat]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Hi Again,
While looking up favorite UNH alum, came across a past Black Bear I thought you'd like to know about. Josh Soares is leading the Swedish Allsvenskan league with 18-25-43 through 37 games. (His line mate is former Wildcat Steve Saviano at 15-21-36.)

 

[sandiegoblkbr]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

You friggin Maine fans that blame Maine dropping from #12 to #17 in the PWR on the UNH loss are MORONS! They just beat BC for Chr*st sake!

11-6-4 with wins over BC and North Dakota (2)........of course that can't compare with the 4 EZAC teams ahead of them who have played and beaten next to NO ONE!

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

TUC is a dumb comparision criterion.Nothing shows this more clearly than how the PWR has changed after the past weekend's results.(Apparently,it's better to lose to Dartmouth than to defeat BC..?Please.)

SOS is already accounted for via RPI.TUC is therefore a needless construct.And,having three meaningful criteria for the PWR would make the process of selection much less arcane.

Still,as dumb as it is,it's waaay better than how the NCAA runs football...All Maine needs to do is win.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

You friggin Maine fans that blame Maine dropping from #12 to #17 in the PWR on the UNH loss are MORONS! They just beat BC for Chr*st sake!

11-6-4 with wins over BC and North Dakota (2)........of course that can't compare with the 4 EZAC teams ahead of them who have played and beaten next to NO ONE!

Are you serious? or is this a joke? Its january, Maines record and therefore standing in PWR is Maines fault, no one elses. Win games

 

[FiveHole12]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

The NCAA is pretty clever actually. After seeing that Maine beat BC on Sunday, they announced the changes in PWR, knowing Maineuhs would need something to beetch about.

 

[AMC]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Didn't the PWR at one point give bonuses for road wins? Maine's lucky that's gone.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Didn't the PWR at one point give bonuses for road wins? Maine's lucky that's gone.

The old system used some bonuses (they were kept a mystery but using data and sources I think the USCHO had it pretty much figured out) to boost a team's RPI for getting "quality wins" in non-conference games. Road wins had the highest weight, followed by neutral wins and home wins.

I liked that and think it should be brought back. It can be used to help encourage schools to schedule big games. It would basically give a team like Maine or BC (which scheduled and swept North Dakota and BC, respectively) some help in fighting a turd like this year's Yale squad (best NC opponent was Colorado College).

 

[Priceless]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Didn't the PWR at one point give bonuses for road wins? Maine's lucky that's gone.

Yes, very lucky. Maine would only move up 1 spot in the PWR if bonus points were brought back. Good point.

Maine didn't drop in the rankings because they beat BC. The rankings were being configured differently, so Maine was artificially elevated before. If the same formula were applied before the Sunday games, Maine entered the game in 19th and are now tied for 16th.

The change in the formula is bothersome not because of the change itself, but the timing of said change. The NCAA has now set the precedent that any changes to the selection criteria can be done at anytime, even during the season. If a host school like UHN or a local draw like Wisconsin end up on the wrong side of the bubble, the NCAA can just tweak the formula until they get the results they want. The NCAA also quietly removed the 10 game requirement for TUC last year and kinda forgot to tell anyone. So much for transparency and simple math.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled b!tc#fest.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

The NCAA also quietly removed the 10 game requirement for TUC last year and kinda forgot to tell anyone.

I noticed that as well from Milewski's article. I find that especially odd. Apparently it would not have changed the field last year so no one noticed this, is that correct? If it had, the projected field from the model of using the 10-game requirement would have raised flags and surprised some folks come Selection Sunday and a lot of people would have been asking questions I would think.

It would have been mighty interesting if that tweak last year changed the field and some team "got screwed" with a nasty surprise thinking they were in. I can't even imagine what it would have been like.

 

[Runsub5]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

Didn't the PWR at one point give bonuses for road wins? Maine's lucky that's gone.

I'm not really fan of bonus points for road worthy wins. Here's an example. In 2006 Maine traveled to North Dakota in October and won two games by the score of 6-2 and 3-1. They then played Minnesota (order may be wrong), and won 3-1. Later in the season Maine "tanked" but still made the NCAA tournament because of those road worthy wins (bonus points). I would prefer to see a team that was improving as the season goes along be rewarded for their hard work and development. Perhaps that's why the NCAA abandoned that component at the end of that season.

 

[Erix_The_Red]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

In 2006 Maine traveled to North Dakota in October and won two games by the score of 6-2 and 3-1. They then played Minnesota (order may be wrong), and won 3-1. Later in the season Maine "tanked" but still made the NCAA tournament because of those road worthy wins (bonus points). .

That's a pretty good example of why they're awesome. Got one for why it sucks?

 

[KnowItAll]

Re: Maine Black Bears 2010-2011 - Part Deux

maine is gonna have fun at Northeastern.
I saw them kick the tar out of Harvard last night. (not on the scoreboard, I mean literally). Maine had better be ready.
McNeely is still a talented get-under-your-skin a55hole
Dongara is meaner than Cronin and plays hard
Little Ferreiro and Quailer can fly
Rawlings is a pretty good goalie

ya think Timmy had them practice this week after dismantling BC?

how many matching minors will Diamond be involved in against NU?

ya think that jerry just let Maine win so that IF they face each other in the playoffs, Tim will be overconfidenent (like the jets/patriots?)

--just askin'