Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
the end of a few poor years of recruiting?
the end of a few poor years of recruiting?
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Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Nah...the fact that the team's winning percentage has improved each of the last three seasons and they're seven games over .500 in the last two are just statistical anomalies.
Nah...the fact that the team's winning percentage has improved each of the last three seasons and they're seven games over .500 in the last two are just statistical anomalies.
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Why don't you???? It would be pretty funny to hear that record coming out of your delusional head...........
Why don't you???? It would be pretty funny to hear that record coming out of your delusional head...........
Fishman'81
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Relative to what,with all due respect..?The Jack Semlar Era is the only comparison that comes to mind.
I was OK with Tim for years,but the last few have seen Maine droop down into mediocrity for what appears to be the long haul.It's one thing to be considered a long-shot for the NC,but Maine is now a couple or three upsets away from even making the field of 16,let alone advancing...If I'm the Maine AD,this situation is not one that I'm OK with.(And,I hope he's not.)
I don't see that there's a lot to lose here.Maine hockey can be an also-ran with practically anyone at the helm.Might as well take a flyer on a new guy with ambitions to make the Bears relevant again.Right now,we are the newest version of Northeastern...Just an afterthought.
Relative to what,with all due respect..?The Jack Semlar Era is the only comparison that comes to mind.
I was OK with Tim for years,but the last few have seen Maine droop down into mediocrity for what appears to be the long haul.It's one thing to be considered a long-shot for the NC,but Maine is now a couple or three upsets away from even making the field of 16,let alone advancing...If I'm the Maine AD,this situation is not one that I'm OK with.(And,I hope he's not.)
I don't see that there's a lot to lose here.Maine hockey can be an also-ran with practically anyone at the helm.Might as well take a flyer on a new guy with ambitions to make the Bears relevant again.Right now,we are the newest version of Northeastern...Just an afterthought.
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Thank you!
Thank you!
I don't agree that there's not much to lose. At least we have a coach who has proven he is capable of making it to the finals in D1. With a new coach there is no guarantee that we won't be the new Providence College.
sandiegoblkbr
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Come on............Providence has a horrible arena and fan base. Small Catholic school vs. large state school and only D-1 in the state..........there is NO comparison.
And psst.........Whitehead is well on his way to making Maine Providence-like irrelevant.
sandiegoblkbr
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
I find it interesting that there is a small facton on here that will defend Whitehead to the bitter end. There HAS to be a vested interest for these people........money maybe? more likely friends and family of Whitehead and the current staff. it's pretty pathetic.
I find it interesting that there is a small facton on here that will defend Whitehead to the bitter end. There HAS to be a vested interest for these people........money maybe? more likely friends and family of Whitehead and the current staff. it's pretty pathetic.
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Cindy's head rolled into the basket because supporters came up with the $$$ to be able to buy her out and make her go away.
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
The problem up until right now has been who would replace him. I think now in Jimmy Maine has someone who can take over and move the program forward. You don't get rid of a coach until you have their replacement lined up and now that Maine has that they will probably make the change after this season. Changing coaches is a dangerous game and shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction.
The problem up until right now has been who would replace him. I think now in Jimmy Maine has someone who can take over and move the program forward. You don't get rid of a coach until you have their replacement lined up and now that Maine has that they will probably make the change after this season. Changing coaches is a dangerous game and shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction.
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
You're pretty pathetic.
You're pretty pathetic.
Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
I think your right in that there will a chance that there's Change next spring...and there will be ALOT of interested Applicants for the UMaine job if and when it would come about...don't fool yourself the RIGHT person can get this program back on the right track...no matter how you slice it,The Whitehead Era is over in that there's no more believeing in him to lead this program back to being to a steady winner...and IF you do,so be it...but look around and you'll see that people that CARE will finally say the H#ll with it...
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
That doesn't even make sense. "There's no more believing in him, but there are some who do." That's quite a paradox.
And I love how anyone who doesn't agree with you automatically doesn't care about the program. Only enlightened souls that agree with you.
That doesn't even make sense. "There's no more believing in him, but there are some who do." That's quite a paradox.
And I love how anyone who doesn't agree with you automatically doesn't care about the program. Only enlightened souls that agree with you.
AMC
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Schneider is smallish, but there isn't a bad seat in the house. With the low roof, it can get pretty loud in there. Does it look big time? No. But its not a bad place to watch a game at all. Frankly, if Leaman gets them winning, that could be a pretty fun program. 3000 seats is about right to create demand, and there are more people in metro Providence than the entire state of Maine (most of which's population is nowhere near Orono). PC may be a "small Catholic school" but they still average 7k+ for hoops, and Maine isn't even the "large(st) state school" in the state of Maine by much (USM is within about 1,000 students).
You always advocate for bigger and better conferences (letting in UND), and dropping the "weak" programs from HEA (Lowell, for example), but I think you are delusional. Maine is a lot closer institutionally and resource wise to the UMLs and PCs than the BCs and BUs of the world. That's not even a personnel thing (coaching, players, etc.). That's a finances and infrastructure issue. As much as people ***** and moan that Maine is turning into LSSU, the easiest way for Maine to become LSSU is to get rid of the teams Maine has an actual institutional advantage over. Setting aside athletics, the campus in Orono is falling apart. There's a reason the percentage of in state students keeps going up and up- things are decrepit and price is really the only selling point right now. While UNH and UMA and the privates are all building new dorms and academic buildings, everything on Maine's campus other than the rec center and an engineering building or two is in embarrassing condition. UMaine isn't an easy sell to anyone- hockey players, other athletes, non-athletes, etc. You remove the other programs with selling point issues, and Maine is stuck trying to sell itself over schools with a lot more going for them.
Come on............Providence has a horrible arena and fan base. Small Catholic school vs. large state school and only D-1 in the state..........there is NO comparison.
And psst.........Whitehead is well on his way to making Maine Providence-like irrelevant.
Schneider is smallish, but there isn't a bad seat in the house. With the low roof, it can get pretty loud in there. Does it look big time? No. But its not a bad place to watch a game at all. Frankly, if Leaman gets them winning, that could be a pretty fun program. 3000 seats is about right to create demand, and there are more people in metro Providence than the entire state of Maine (most of which's population is nowhere near Orono). PC may be a "small Catholic school" but they still average 7k+ for hoops, and Maine isn't even the "large(st) state school" in the state of Maine by much (USM is within about 1,000 students).
You always advocate for bigger and better conferences (letting in UND), and dropping the "weak" programs from HEA (Lowell, for example), but I think you are delusional. Maine is a lot closer institutionally and resource wise to the UMLs and PCs than the BCs and BUs of the world. That's not even a personnel thing (coaching, players, etc.). That's a finances and infrastructure issue. As much as people ***** and moan that Maine is turning into LSSU, the easiest way for Maine to become LSSU is to get rid of the teams Maine has an actual institutional advantage over. Setting aside athletics, the campus in Orono is falling apart. There's a reason the percentage of in state students keeps going up and up- things are decrepit and price is really the only selling point right now. While UNH and UMA and the privates are all building new dorms and academic buildings, everything on Maine's campus other than the rec center and an engineering building or two is in embarrassing condition. UMaine isn't an easy sell to anyone- hockey players, other athletes, non-athletes, etc. You remove the other programs with selling point issues, and Maine is stuck trying to sell itself over schools with a lot more going for them.
rufus
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
So if the recruiting's back on track, why are they only able to win four more games/season than when the recruiting sucked?
yeah, that couple games over .500 record each year is sooooooooooo inspiring. Especially when you hear TIMMAY bragging about how last year was supposed to be "the year". How'd that work out for ya, TIMMAY?
So if the recruiting's back on track, why are they only able to win four more games/season than when the recruiting sucked?
yeah, that couple games over .500 record each year is sooooooooooo inspiring. Especially when you hear TIMMAY bragging about how last year was supposed to be "the year". How'd that work out for ya, TIMMAY?
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Bullmoose: Should be fine getting into a football game. Its a good take if the weaters good. Cant remember the last time they came close to selling the place out. Maybe the UNH game in 2008.
As for the rest, let me use myself as an example. For me, TW jumped the shark last year. Last summer, I believed the parts were in place to make the NCAAs and the close the book on the bad times. They fell woefully short of meeting, much less exceeding, the sum of their parts.
That reasonable, logical people can't acknowledge that utter failure and discuss it is an indictment of everyone. I **** sure hope that TW had a different attitude because if he doesn't acknowledge his failures he will repeat them. Again.
Bullmoose: Should be fine getting into a football game. Its a good take if the weaters good. Cant remember the last time they came close to selling the place out. Maybe the UNH game in 2008.
As for the rest, let me use myself as an example. For me, TW jumped the shark last year. Last summer, I believed the parts were in place to make the NCAAs and the close the book on the bad times. They fell woefully short of meeting, much less exceeding, the sum of their parts.
That reasonable, logical people can't acknowledge that utter failure and discuss it is an indictment of everyone. I **** sure hope that TW had a different attitude because if he doesn't acknowledge his failures he will repeat them. Again.
Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
Last year's season opener vs. Albany. Almost 8000 people there to see them lose 3-0. Actually, the first three games drew really well. The weather was great, and that's what brings fans in.
What doesn't bring fans in is a mediocre hockey team with a bad coach. We all want to see them win, but they just look TERRIBLE on paper. Timmy has to pull something out of his a** to stay longer. An NCAA bid could save him, but not if his team gets hot in the HE playoffs and magically wins an auto-bid. At-large bid will be Timmy's only savior to stay in Orono.
Last year's season opener vs. Albany. Almost 8000 people there to see them lose 3-0. Actually, the first three games drew really well. The weather was great, and that's what brings fans in.
What doesn't bring fans in is a mediocre hockey team with a bad coach. We all want to see them win, but they just look TERRIBLE on paper. Timmy has to pull something out of his a** to stay longer. An NCAA bid could save him, but not if his team gets hot in the HE playoffs and magically wins an auto-bid. At-large bid will be Timmy's only savior to stay in Orono.
Fishman'81
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
A couple things...
Schneider is smallish,but it's well-lit and you can sit anywhere you like.It's a great place to watch a Maine road game right now,with close to zero fan-support for the Friars.Don't pass up the opportunity to see a game there,if you're in striking distance.(But be sure to lock up the car!)
Re:Tim?How soon we forget...
No way in the world he'd still have that job without the lame-duck,former AD's gift of a contract extension.(Where was the BOT on that one,I wonder?)
And,I don't think that sneaking in the back door of the NCAAs-as unlikely as that is in this coming season-will save his job.I just don't see an NCAA appearance alone as measuring up to what Maine is expecting,in terms of results.
I'm thinking that the Whitehead Era is drawing to a close in Orono,and it wasn't all bad by any means....But his work there is done,and has been for a while.I wish him the best,and I wish him gone.Maine was just too a big a fish for him to fry,apparently.
A couple things...
Schneider is smallish,but it's well-lit and you can sit anywhere you like.It's a great place to watch a Maine road game right now,with close to zero fan-support for the Friars.Don't pass up the opportunity to see a game there,if you're in striking distance.(But be sure to lock up the car!)
Re:Tim?How soon we forget...
No way in the world he'd still have that job without the lame-duck,former AD's gift of a contract extension.(Where was the BOT on that one,I wonder?)
And,I don't think that sneaking in the back door of the NCAAs-as unlikely as that is in this coming season-will save his job.I just don't see an NCAA appearance alone as measuring up to what Maine is expecting,in terms of results.
I'm thinking that the Whitehead Era is drawing to a close in Orono,and it wasn't all bad by any means....But his work there is done,and has been for a while.I wish him the best,and I wish him gone.Maine was just too a big a fish for him to fry,apparently.
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Ma#1ne Hky
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
You no what I pretty much care less what you think or say...but continue to to enlighten us.
Hockeypuck
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Re: Maine 2011 Offseason #2: Wondering If We'll Outdraw Women's Hoops This Year
When did the poor recruiting end? This team hasn't had any depth for a few years and that's due to poor recruiting and it's not getting any better. The past two recruiting classes have been subpar and this years class isn't going to be any better.
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