Laker Dude
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Too bad Frank never won a game in Alaska when he was the coach.
Too bad Frank never won a game in Alaska when he was the coach.
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LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
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LSSULaker889294
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
And Frank never had his team just four points from 2nd place with just four games left in the season during his second stint.
And Frank never had his team just four points from 2nd place with just four games left in the season during his second stint.
Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Let's please not make this about Frank vs Jim or anything like that because of some goof bag like Truth.....just ignore him, he's a petty, immature and jealous person who's simply trying to snag in company in order to share his misery....enough of him and lets look forward to the rest of the season and enjoy the fact that the Lakers are in the hunt this year!!
Let's please not make this about Frank vs Jim or anything like that because of some goof bag like Truth.....just ignore him, he's a petty, immature and jealous person who's simply trying to snag in company in order to share his misery....enough of him and lets look forward to the rest of the season and enjoy the fact that the Lakers are in the hunt this year!!
PerkyforPrez
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Flem Of The North
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What is Frank doing these days by the way?
I am sure such a winning coach would have no problem getting a coaching job. Maybe I have missed all his winning. Please me know TBA. In the meantime, Coach Roque and the Lakers will live and continue to win without you and your shorter and as crazy half at our little University.
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Tough to sweep on the road.
Bill keenly noted that the Lakers have given away some points this season. The four overtime shootout wins are great, and they would be struggling without those extra four points. BUT -- where would they be if they had those lost four points in the bank (and converesly some of the teams they are chasing were deprived of those points)? You can't un-ring a bell, of course, and so we haev the record that the Lakers have -- sitting at .500 in the league. Its been a better season than that record would indicate, or it seems like it should be better. I believe in this scrappy team. And I believe they can do great things. But its HARD to win on the road in the CCHA this year -- and home ice for at least the first round is a must. Its virtually impossible to swing back-to-back road playoff series wins.
So once again, a huge weekend coming up. Western. Home. Last chance at home to put their foot down and really shoot up the standings.
Tough to sweep on the road.
Bill keenly noted that the Lakers have given away some points this season. The four overtime shootout wins are great, and they would be struggling without those extra four points. BUT -- where would they be if they had those lost four points in the bank (and converesly some of the teams they are chasing were deprived of those points)? You can't un-ring a bell, of course, and so we haev the record that the Lakers have -- sitting at .500 in the league. Its been a better season than that record would indicate, or it seems like it should be better. I believe in this scrappy team. And I believe they can do great things. But its HARD to win on the road in the CCHA this year -- and home ice for at least the first round is a must. Its virtually impossible to swing back-to-back road playoff series wins.
So once again, a huge weekend coming up. Western. Home. Last chance at home to put their foot down and really shoot up the standings.
Proud2baLaker
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Its weekends like this where someone who truly cared would go around doing whatever they could to drum up even more interest in the games and get the students packed in there making noise. When I was a student there we had a few people who did that. They litterally went door to door talking to students and getting them excited. This is when we need all the various clubs and organizations to do something and get students there and make some noise. If anyone on here is a current student, I implore you to do what you can to get people to the games. Talk to the radio stations and the compass and other newspapers. Go to Student Life or Housing or whatever and see if there is something they can do to help get the word out. Talk to the concessions folks. Maybe they can do a giveaway or something where each student can get a free drink or something. This weekend needs to be loud!
Its weekends like this where someone who truly cared would go around doing whatever they could to drum up even more interest in the games and get the students packed in there making noise. When I was a student there we had a few people who did that. They litterally went door to door talking to students and getting them excited. This is when we need all the various clubs and organizations to do something and get students there and make some noise. If anyone on here is a current student, I implore you to do what you can to get people to the games. Talk to the radio stations and the compass and other newspapers. Go to Student Life or Housing or whatever and see if there is something they can do to help get the word out. Talk to the concessions folks. Maybe they can do a giveaway or something where each student can get a free drink or something. This weekend needs to be loud!
Hockeyintheblood
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Ok I agree drum it up. So when is the University going to do a pep rally or something. Please don't tell me this is a University. I know other D1 programs that have done it in the past. Also when are the players going to talk it up in the lunch room. I have seen them there in the past and I can never recall them asking fellow students to come watch them. In fact I have been there eating lunch on occasion during a game weekend and was sitting with players that never said a word like are you going to the game. How about getting a sponsor to do a t-shirt day ect. So the colors are running through the stadium. Hey I could go on but I am sorry attendance at the game starts with the team asking the student body to go door to door. If too busy in person tweet ect. but really I have to believe if they start it they could reach everyone during the time they are at school.
Ok I agree drum it up. So when is the University going to do a pep rally or something. Please don't tell me this is a University. I know other D1 programs that have done it in the past. Also when are the players going to talk it up in the lunch room. I have seen them there in the past and I can never recall them asking fellow students to come watch them. In fact I have been there eating lunch on occasion during a game weekend and was sitting with players that never said a word like are you going to the game. How about getting a sponsor to do a t-shirt day ect. So the colors are running through the stadium. Hey I could go on but I am sorry attendance at the game starts with the team asking the student body to go door to door. If too busy in person tweet ect. but really I have to believe if they start it they could reach everyone during the time they are at school.
Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Student excitement is where I think the program suffers because of a basketball-based AD. There was always a certain level of resentment within the athletics department by the basketball teams against the hockey team. Part of this is psychological: basketball is the big game at most schools, and basketball players were the big jocky school stars in high school. At LSSU, of course, basketball is a harmless diversion, and this is very hard for the basketball types to swallow (I know this from close associations with most of the basketball coaches and assistant coaches over the years . . . they honestly can't understand why hockey gets the Lion's share of the attention). So now we have an AD who is immersed in the LSSU basketball culture. And LSSU basketball culture carries with it this chip on the shoulder.
Ms. Dunbar is doing agreat job, and I don't want to be critical. In fact, I am not being critical of her administration -- except when it comes to filling the Abel Arena with students.
Previous posters are correct -- there were many years when students, student groups, and the players themselves worked door to door, drumming up student interest. Anzalone and Jackson were both quite passionate about getting students to the games. Anzalone took it as a point of personal pride, and would go to the classrooms and encourage attendance for big games -- making a little stump-speech for a minute or two.
But back to the basketball nonsense. What happens is this: In order to fully and properly promote hockey -- the other sports must take a back seat. Its just a fact of limited supply -- there are too few students to pack both hockey and basketball. And since the students have never packed a basketball game at LSSU; and since hockey is the only D-I sport at LSSU; the natural result is this -- if you are going to push and prod students to get out for a game, its likely going to be pushing and prodding to get out to a hockey game. And this sticks in the hoops-program's craw deeeeeeeeeep down in their DNA. Ms. Dunbar needs to do more, but its possible that she just can't do it.
Student excitement is where I think the program suffers because of a basketball-based AD. There was always a certain level of resentment within the athletics department by the basketball teams against the hockey team. Part of this is psychological: basketball is the big game at most schools, and basketball players were the big jocky school stars in high school. At LSSU, of course, basketball is a harmless diversion, and this is very hard for the basketball types to swallow (I know this from close associations with most of the basketball coaches and assistant coaches over the years . . . they honestly can't understand why hockey gets the Lion's share of the attention). So now we have an AD who is immersed in the LSSU basketball culture. And LSSU basketball culture carries with it this chip on the shoulder.
Ms. Dunbar is doing agreat job, and I don't want to be critical. In fact, I am not being critical of her administration -- except when it comes to filling the Abel Arena with students.
Previous posters are correct -- there were many years when students, student groups, and the players themselves worked door to door, drumming up student interest. Anzalone and Jackson were both quite passionate about getting students to the games. Anzalone took it as a point of personal pride, and would go to the classrooms and encourage attendance for big games -- making a little stump-speech for a minute or two.
But back to the basketball nonsense. What happens is this: In order to fully and properly promote hockey -- the other sports must take a back seat. Its just a fact of limited supply -- there are too few students to pack both hockey and basketball. And since the students have never packed a basketball game at LSSU; and since hockey is the only D-I sport at LSSU; the natural result is this -- if you are going to push and prod students to get out for a game, its likely going to be pushing and prodding to get out to a hockey game. And this sticks in the hoops-program's craw deeeeeeeeeep down in their DNA. Ms. Dunbar needs to do more, but its possible that she just can't do it.
backbencher
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
How unfair, but that's life
Okay, so today you blame the others sports' for the poor assistance because they don't promote hockey enough.
Are you saying that if hockey can't run fast enough, the others should slow down and pull them ?
Seriously, the limited resentment by the basketball teams against the hockey team is the same as all other athletes and is just understandable. The relationship is excellent on an individual level, so if someone is to be blamed, don't look outside the hockey program.
Thanks to the hockey specialists on this forum, I now know that coaching hockey in the soo area is very unlike other sports, don't tell me promoting hockey is again something different ... all my references are falling apart.
The AD, the basketball people and the players should take care of promoting the team ?
Despite being the staunch fanbase of the person in charge of the hockey program, none of you is offering to do it
How unfair, but that's life
Okay, so today you blame the others sports' for the poor assistance because they don't promote hockey enough.
In order to fully and properly promote hockey -- the hockey must take a front seat ... and they definitely have far more means to do it.
Are you saying that if hockey can't run fast enough, the others should slow down and pull them ?
Seriously, the limited resentment by the basketball teams against the hockey team is the same as all other athletes and is just understandable. The relationship is excellent on an individual level, so if someone is to be blamed, don't look outside the hockey program.
Really ? What do you think is wrong with them ? Actually, I even saw some giving a hand for an event with another team.
Thanks to the hockey specialists on this forum, I now know that coaching hockey in the soo area is very unlike other sports, don't tell me promoting hockey is again something different ... all my references are falling apart.
The AD, the basketball people and the players should take care of promoting the team ?
Despite being the staunch fanbase of the person in charge of the hockey program, none of you is offering to do it
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
To quote the Bard: Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Seems as though the ear hath been twisted, and being so twisted the pig doth squeal?
How unfair, but that's life
Okay, so today you blame the others sports' for the poor assistance because they don't promote hockey enough.
In order to fully and properly promote hockey -- the hockey must take a front seat ... and they definitely have far more means to do it.
Are you saying that if hockey can't run fast enough, the others should slow down and pull them ?
Seriously, the limited resentment by the basketball teams against the hockey team is the same as all other athletes and is just understandable. The relationship is excellent on an individual level, so if someone is to be blamed, don't look outside the hockey program.
Really ? What do you think is wrong with them ? Actually, I even saw some giving a hand for an event with another team.
Thanks to the hockey specialists on this forum, I now know that coaching hockey in the soo area is very unlike other sports, don't tell me promoting hockey is again something different ... all my references are falling apart.
The AD, the basketball people and the players should take care of promoting the team ?
Despite being the staunch fanbase of the person in charge of the hockey program, none of you is offering to do it
To quote the Bard: Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Seems as though the ear hath been twisted, and being so twisted the pig doth squeal?
backbencher
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
Do you mean something is rotten at Lake Superior State ?
Sorry I could't help it (I hope you get it)
Not bad (actually : "The lady doth protest too much, methinks")
Do you mean something is rotten at Lake Superior State ?
Sorry I could't help it (I hope you get it)
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Is something rotten at LSSU? haha -- Elsinore State?
I should qualify my remarks -- I really like AD Dunbar, and I think she really wants whats best for LSSU. That means all programs. This can be as irritating to the hcokey-first-last-and-only crowd as it is, conversely, to the other sports when they are left out in the cold. I get that. Any attention paid to other programs, or perceived attention not being paid in adequate quantities to the hockey program, can get people flustered (people = me). In retrospect, I am probably just as biased in favor of the hockey program as I accuse others of being against the hockey program. And I don't mind being called out when I blather BS, and I should know better.
And for the record I regulary attend the basketball games, despite the fact that I personally consider it a crappy sport and mind-numbingly dull to watch -- I want to see LSSU do well and I am a sucker for sporting events.
Now I don't know why the AD doesn't do more. Maybe she is? I don't know why student groups don't do more. Maybe they do? I can affirm that for many years, the basketball program's leaders have been oft frustrated with the love, attention, and money lavished on the hockey program -- and more than a few times have commented thoughts to the effect: LSSU is the only school where basketball is an afterthought. (Now, obviously, I am always quick to point out places like North Dakota, Duluth, Ferris, etc . . . wherein basketball is also an afterthought, and this is not a strange isolated LSSU situation).
None of this changes the fact that I would like to see a packed house for this weekend's series.
And for those who miss this weekend's series . . . I once again quote the Bard, sort of . . .
And gentlemen . . . .now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
Is something rotten at LSSU? haha -- Elsinore State?
I should qualify my remarks -- I really like AD Dunbar, and I think she really wants whats best for LSSU. That means all programs. This can be as irritating to the hcokey-first-last-and-only crowd as it is, conversely, to the other sports when they are left out in the cold. I get that. Any attention paid to other programs, or perceived attention not being paid in adequate quantities to the hockey program, can get people flustered (people = me). In retrospect, I am probably just as biased in favor of the hockey program as I accuse others of being against the hockey program. And I don't mind being called out when I blather BS, and I should know better.
And for the record I regulary attend the basketball games, despite the fact that I personally consider it a crappy sport and mind-numbingly dull to watch -- I want to see LSSU do well and I am a sucker for sporting events.
Now I don't know why the AD doesn't do more. Maybe she is? I don't know why student groups don't do more. Maybe they do? I can affirm that for many years, the basketball program's leaders have been oft frustrated with the love, attention, and money lavished on the hockey program -- and more than a few times have commented thoughts to the effect: LSSU is the only school where basketball is an afterthought. (Now, obviously, I am always quick to point out places like North Dakota, Duluth, Ferris, etc . . . wherein basketball is also an afterthought, and this is not a strange isolated LSSU situation).
None of this changes the fact that I would like to see a packed house for this weekend's series.
And for those who miss this weekend's series . . . I once again quote the Bard, sort of . . .
And gentlemen . . . .now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
I don't get up to the Soo often enough to have a very thorough picture of what the local sentiments are towards the job that AD Dunbar is doing or whether her basketball background (which I'm well aware of) perhaps makes her focus on that sport more so than hockey. You don't seem to have any issue with Kris Dunbar other than not promoting hockey enough to try and fill more seats. Aside from promotional efforts, the other way to fill more seats is to produce winning teams on a regular basis. I'm curious, do you think Dunbar has given Jim Roque a longer lease (albeit incrementally) on the coaching job than a more hockey oriented AD would have done?
Tooth Squid
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Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
You Make Sense? Really???? Ranting about poor Nikki Poo and Frank the Tank.
Average Attendace about 2500 this year... those playoff games had 1200 no 300 though I will agree with you that is bad it's not 300....
You are right the issue is with cry baby parents that can't get it through thier thick skulls that their bouncing baby boy got an education (on scholarship), and was not cut out to play D1 college hockey. The other issue is those fans that are stuck in 1985 .... The college game has PASSED FRANK BY... He can not relate to college athletes anymore.... He is gone... Nik is gone... You need to be gone... Time to move on... Look I will make you a deal... I will pay the subscription fee for you for one year of the playboy channel .... You can spend your nights taking your mis-guided aggression out on your peepee.... Maybe that will help you feel better... Run one off by hand and then come talk to us...
The Tooth is out there....
TNA
TNA
You Make Sense? Really???? Ranting about poor Nikki Poo and Frank the Tank.
Average Attendace about 2500 this year... those playoff games had 1200 no 300 though I will agree with you that is bad it's not 300....
You are right the issue is with cry baby parents that can't get it through thier thick skulls that their bouncing baby boy got an education (on scholarship), and was not cut out to play D1 college hockey. The other issue is those fans that are stuck in 1985 .... The college game has PASSED FRANK BY... He can not relate to college athletes anymore.... He is gone... Nik is gone... You need to be gone... Time to move on... Look I will make you a deal... I will pay the subscription fee for you for one year of the playboy channel .... You can spend your nights taking your mis-guided aggression out on your peepee.... Maybe that will help you feel better... Run one off by hand and then come talk to us...
The Tooth is out there....
TNA
TNA
Re: LSSU Hockey 2011-2012
RE: Roque and AD Dunbar . . . good question. I don't have an answer. Like I said, Dunbar wants whats best for LSSU. My first blush thoughts are perhaps opposite of what you might think. I tend to think Roque would be on a shorter leash with a non-hockey AD -- because the non-hockey AD is free to look only at results: Wins, Losses, attendance, grade point averages. A hockey-immersed AD might have a quicker trigger because he/she might think they know better than the coach vis-a-vis lineup choices, strategy choices, recruiting choices, practice choices, etc . . . .
The non-hockey trained AD would tend to defer to the coach on all those matters, and instead focus on the bottom line.
And based on the contracts and relationship, it appears Dunbar is satisfied, if not 100% pleased, with Roque's work over the past two years.
The team is winning, its well behaved, and it represents the University in a good light on the road and in the community.
RE: Roque and AD Dunbar . . . good question. I don't have an answer. Like I said, Dunbar wants whats best for LSSU. My first blush thoughts are perhaps opposite of what you might think. I tend to think Roque would be on a shorter leash with a non-hockey AD -- because the non-hockey AD is free to look only at results: Wins, Losses, attendance, grade point averages. A hockey-immersed AD might have a quicker trigger because he/she might think they know better than the coach vis-a-vis lineup choices, strategy choices, recruiting choices, practice choices, etc . . . .
The non-hockey trained AD would tend to defer to the coach on all those matters, and instead focus on the bottom line.
And based on the contracts and relationship, it appears Dunbar is satisfied, if not 100% pleased, with Roque's work over the past two years.
The team is winning, its well behaved, and it represents the University in a good light on the road and in the community.
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