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Iowa State pursuing D1 Hockey

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MGoBlueHockey said:
I see Nebraska adding a program and Illinois resurrecting theirs in the future.

Hopefully there will be a full B1G hockey league some day. Can't wait for four free wins against PSU next year.
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Nebraska AD Tom Osborne has said they are not adding hockey.
 
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MGoBlueHockey said:
I see Nebraska adding a program...
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With what money? And they already barely break even at basketball. I really doubt they'd cannibalize that audience with another winter sport anytime in the foreseeable future.
 
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UncleRay said:
Well, there's the fact that YOU have put "Omaha, NE, USA" as your location.

Oh, and "arent"??? Very bright.
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Something I set 13 years ago and haven't touched since versus something I said what, 2 days ago? Yeah, that's very confusing...

Christ, you guys make the worst of the political thread trolls look bright.
 
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unofan said:
Something I set 13 years ago and haven't touched since versus something I said what, 2 days ago? Yeah, that's very confusing...

Christ, you guys make the worst of the political thread trolls look bright.
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Every time you post you say that you are in Omaha. So when you also said you were in Des Moines 444 asked for clarification and you got all snarky on him. Real mature.

And several of you might want to check your sarcasm meter with MGoBlueHockey. Just because there was no ;) , :p , :eek: , or :cool: doesn't mean it isn't sarcasm.

Oh, don't want to forget the :rolleyes:
 
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UncleRay said:
And several of you might want to check your sarcasm meter with MGoBlueHockey. Just because there was no ;) , :p , :eek: , or :cool: doesn't mean it isn't sarcasm.

Oh, don't want to forget the :rolleyes:
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Also, never trust someone with that large of a signature. They're compensating for something.
 
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MGoBlueHockey said:
I see Nebraska adding a program and Illinois resurrecting theirs in the future.
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This will never, ever, ever, ever, ever happen. Actually, I recall reading somewhere that the Nebraska hoops coach will outright block any pro-hockey program establishment efforts. Nebraska just poured a ton of money into their new basketball arena and they have to find some reason to fill the place on a regular basis. Supporting a sport that could take butts away from basketball just isn't an option for them right now.

This is probably the best way to put it: Nebraska basketball sucks, they're always going to suck, and that they must do anything they can short of running a winter entertainment monopoly in Lincoln to keep people coming back to the arena. They have to justify the arena's existence.

I really can't see the B1G expanding beyond nine teams. Illinois is a "when" and not an "if," Iowa could jump in if the ISU program gets established and is successful, and I'll throw Northwestern into the mix because Chicago is a strengthening hockey market and NU has filthy rich alumni. (And, yes, I will admit that Iowa and NU are crazy longshots.)
 
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aallenpollreisz said:
This will never, ever, ever, ever, ever happen. Actually, I recall reading somewhere that the Nebraska hoops coach will outright block any pro-hockey program establishment efforts. Nebraska just poured a ton of money into their new basketball arena and they have to find some reason to fill the place on a regular basis. Supporting a sport that could take butts away from basketball just isn't an option for them right now.

This is probably the best way to put it: Nebraska basketball sucks, they're always going to suck, and that they must do anything they can short of running a winter entertainment monopoly in Lincoln to keep people coming back to the arena. They have to justify the arena's existence.

I really can't see the B1G expanding beyond nine teams. Illinois is a "when" and not an "if," Iowa could jump in if the ISU program gets established and is successful, and I'll throw Northwestern into the mix because Chicago is a strengthening hockey market and NU has filthy rich alumni. (And, yes, I will admit that Iowa and NU are crazy longshots.)
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Winter hockey monopoly? Um, not even close. The USHL's Lincoln Stars consistenly average 4,000 per game. The Huskers hoops team hardly has a monopoly on the sporting dollar in the winter months. And the Stars win...
 
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UNO has decently impressive attendance as well. Maybe it's just because it's their only visible athletic program, but it seems like the state of Nebraska is cool with hockey.
 
Pirateasaurus said:
UNO has decently impressive attendance as well. Maybe it's just because it's their only visible athletic program, but it seems like the state of Nebraska is cool with hockey.
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I have been very impressed with the UNO fan base since they've joined the WCHA, and have always been impressed with their USHL followings. No doubt Nebraska is an up and coming hockey market IMO.
 
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davyd83 said:
Previously, the only flights made by Miami and WMU were to Fairbanks, and most of that expense was picked up by the Alaska school. Four or five flights is a significant increase. Duluth and St Cloud flew to Alaska, again with a decent portion of the expense absorbed by UAA, and they would fly to either Denver or CC on their own dime. These teams will also have 10 out of conference games to play. They won't all be at home. Don't think travel expense is dropping for anyone.
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According to the UAA posters, the WCHA travel subsidies to Anchorage were reduced or eliminated in recent seasons. Either way, the UAA subsidies were significantly lower that what Fairbanks offered.

Michigan Tech was a very expensive trip for DU. They would fly a day early into MPLS, Chicago or Milwaukee and overnight in Green Bay on the way to Houghton.

As for the 10 non-conference games, most NCHC schools will bus whenever possible to the closest non-conference opponents.
 
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dggoddard said:
According to the UAA posters, the WCHA travel subsidies to Anchorage were reduced or eliminated in recent seasons. Either way, the UAA subsidies were significantly lower that what Fairbanks offered.

Michigan Tech was a very expensive trip for DU. They would fly a day early into MPLS, Chicago or Milwaukee and overnight in Green Bay on the way to Houghton.

As for the 10 non-conference games, most NCHC schools will bus whenever possible to the closest non-conference opponents.
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Denver's flight arrangements were their choice. When Northern Michigan played at DU in the 10-11 season, they flew from Marquette to Denver same day, no overnight in between. If they chose to fly from Denver to Green Bay one day and bus 4 hours up to Houghton the next morning, that was their own doing.
 
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aallenpollreisz said:
This will never, ever, ever, ever, ever happen. Actually, I recall reading somewhere that the Nebraska hoops coach will outright block any pro-hockey program establishment efforts. Nebraska just poured a ton of money into their new basketball arena and they have to find some reason to fill the place on a regular basis. Supporting a sport that could take butts away from basketball just isn't an option for them right now.
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Nebraska just hired a brand new basketball coach, I doubt he was given that much power. Plus he has ties to the State of North Dakota, he's been around hockey, I doubt he has an irrational fear about it.

More likely Tom Osborne would outright block it due to some irrational fear of what Hockey may do to his vaunted athletic program.
 
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Larch said:
Nebraska just hired a brand new basketball coach, I doubt he was given that much power. Plus he has ties to the State of North Dakota, he's been around hockey, I doubt he has an irrational fear about it.

More likely Tom Osborne would outright block it due to some irrational fear of what Hockey may do to his vaunted football program.
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Fixed that for ya. ;)
 
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