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Im sick of the BTHC fearmongering

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Good question. How many Big 10 teams will get bye into the tournament? Considering the high end quality of the league you have to expect at least 4.
 
Re: Im sick of the BTHC fearmongering

Good question. How many Big 10 teams will get bye into the tournament? Considering the high end quality of the league you have to expect at least 4.
:confused:Nobody gets a bye into the tournament. Do you mean autobid? The answer to that is at most one. Do you mean at-large bid? That's what the discussion in the posts preceding yours is all about.
 
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:confused:Nobody gets a bye into the tournament. Do you mean autobid? The answer to that is at most one. Do you mean at-large bid? That's what the discussion in the posts preceding yours is all about.

Yes I know I am just saying that the Big Ten teams are some of College Hockey's best and they will be going head to head every game in their conference, which may reduce their winning percentage so it would be better if at least 4 advanced for sure but unfortunately only one gets a bye. Hard to compare big ten to some of the other leagues that will have much weaker competition to make the tournament.
 
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If they retain their current nominal (and anticipated) strengths then most of the league will still be regular visitors to the NCAAs. If anything... a 20 game schedule will probably enhance the chances for the BIG12 schools given the same relative strength of play.

Also don't discount the fact that of their 14 non-conference games, probably 8 of them will be at home, 2 at neutral sites, and maybe 4 true road games. UND/MN is the only rivalry I can really see remaining as a home-and-home series. The rest will probably turn into 2-for-1 (or worse) type deals. Michigan may never leave AA ever again...
 
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While it will be fun to renew rivalries with Michigan and Michigan State, as a Gopher fan I am saddened a bit to be leaving the WCHA. As for the small WCHA schools, I think they'll be fine.
 
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Also don't discount the fact that of their 14 non-conference games, probably 8 of them will be at home, 2 at neutral sites, and maybe 4 true road games. UND/MN is the only rivalry I can really see remaining as a home-and-home series. The rest will probably turn into 2-for-1 (or worse) type deals. Michigan may never leave AA ever again...

No, they'll leave Ann Arbor... to go to the Joe for the GLI. ;)

I seem to recall some rumor about how the conference was going to demand that they have as many home NC games as possible. Could the eastern teams be bought out for a one-and-done series?
 
Easy for you to say.

My cousin played for MSU-M, so I have a vested interest in the program. They'll take a small hit, but the program will survive. I hope they turn the Mariucci Classic into an all-Minnesota tournament. That would be cool, and help cushion the loss.
 
My cousin played for MSU-M, so I have a vested interest in the program. They'll take a small hit, but the program will survive. I hope they turn the Mariucci Classic into an all-Minnesota tournament. That would be cool, and help cushion the loss.
Mankato can't take "a small hit" money-wise.
 
Mankato can't take "a small hit" money-wise.

I don't really like it either (I don't think it benefits the Gophers as much as some of the other B1G schools), but there isn't anything we can do about it. I think Mankato will find a way to make it work.
 
I don't really like it either (I don't think it benefits the Gophers as much as some of the other B1G schools), but there isn't anything we can do about it. I think Mankato will find a way to make it work.
I fear a "perfect storm" due to attendance already dropping, more people considering dropping season tickets due to poor performance, then the perception that the league is losing some of its "big-time" status will be the death blow. I think that in a couple of years we'll be back to attendance under 2000 a game.
 
I fear a "perfect storm" due to attendance already dropping, more people considering dropping season tickets due to poor performance, then the perception that the league is losing some of its "big-time" status will be the death blow. I think that in a couple of years we'll be back to attendance under 2000 a game.

I can understand your fears, but I think they will still play the Gophers more than you think. They may not make it to Mankato as much, but they will still see the Gophers most years I think (and they get $$ even if they don't play in Mankato). I said it before and I'll say it again. I think they should turn the Mariucci Classic into a MN Hockey showcase. Also, with a large chunk of Gopher games moving to the BTN, maybe FSN will pickup some MSU-M, SCSU, tUMD, and BSU games. A good TV contract is more important than attendance.
 
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I'll bet the Gophers NEVER come to Kato, and a lot of residents see the conference as "big time" because the Gophers and Badgers come to town. Otherwise, it's just pretty much the same schools we play in the Northern Sun, or used to play in the North Central Conference.
 
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Because it will be a gradual, slow, decline. It's not like 10 programs will fall right away. It will erode, like rocks on a beach. Smaller schools that need those bigger schools will survive for a while, then, as time goes on, that extra money that they can count on every year adds up, those schools will most likely look at what is feasible financially, and hockey (due to popularity and cost of a program) will be one of the sports on the chopping block.

Established schools, no matter how small/terrible (think MTU or DU or UND) really don't have much to worry about. All three of those schools either have money, tradition, or both to survive quite a long time. Schools like BSU, WMU, LSSU, and/or even MSU-M have something to worry about. Addition by subraction.

Side note: you think the WCHA F5 will still be permanently in St Paul? Hah! This year's attendance, while still the largest conference tourney I believe, is a sign of the upcoming times. And I know many MN fans (and some WI fans) that won't bother to make the trip, MAYBE even if it's in St Paul, since it won't be "our" conference anymore. And those same fans most likely won't travel to wherever the B1G Ten tourney is (you think MI is gonna allow the conference tourney to always be in St Paul? HAH!).

There might not even me a tourney. I wouldn't be suprised if they did a best of three series all the way through the championship games. Something like the top two seeds getting a bye. The only way a number 5 or 6 seed can get to the NCAA is by playing three best of three series. IMO, that is hockey. If the Big Ten does this the Big Ten tourney will be the most difficult to obtain in the country and the winner probably is the best team in the conference.
 
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I can understand your fears, but I think they will still play the Gophers more than you think. They may not make it to Mankato as much, but they will still see the Gophers most years I think (and they get $$ even if they don't play in Mankato). I said it before and I'll say it again. I think they should turn the Mariucci Classic into a MN Hockey showcase. Also, with a large chunk of Gopher games moving to the BTN, maybe FSN will pickup some MSU-M, SCSU, tUMD, and BSU games. A good TV contract is more important than attendance.

From what I have been told all Big Ten games will be played in between non conference games. I highly doubt we will see the traditional way of scheduling once the league starts up. The television schedule will be easy all Big Ten games will be between member vs member and all non conference games for the Gophers will be on FSN.
 
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...and all non conference games for the Gophers will be on FSN.

This.

While not necessarily the highest rated programming on FSN (I have to imagine the Twins draw way more, and I'm pretty sure the Wild draw at least as much if not more), FSN knows it has a loyal hardcore fanbase with the Gophers' hockey team, and would rather not give that up.
 
This.

While not necessarily the highest rated programming on FSN (I have to imagine the Twins draw way more, and I'm pretty sure the Wild draw at least as much if not more), FSN knows it has a loyal hardcore fanbase with the Gophers' hockey team, and would rather not give that up.

I agree. I'm not suggesting that FSN drop coverage of Gopher games. I meant that, with a portion of Gopher conference games being broadcast on the BTN, there will be less Gopher games on FSN this year. I was pondering whether FSN would consider picking up other in-state college games to pickup the slack, or whether they would broadcast something else. That bump in TV revenue could be significant for MSU-M or SCSU. I believe UMD and BSU already have nice TV contracts, but I could be wrong.
 
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MavsFan - while I understand (and perhaps even somewhat agree with) your fears for MSUM, imho your biggest problem is hanging onto Jutting. A more dynamic (and hopefully successful) coach could help the Mavs weather this impending storm.
 
Re: Im sick of the BTHC fearmongering

No, they'll leave Ann Arbor... to go to the Joe for the GLI. ;)

I seem to recall some rumor about how the conference was going to demand that they have as many home NC games as possible. Could the eastern teams be bought out for a one-and-done series?
If the guarantee is high enough.

What may happen is that for the 1st 10 years or so, the "Power Conferences" will dominate. Then things will shuffle around and the mid majors will start making semi frequent trips to the Frozen Four.
 
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