If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

[Bakunin]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

While were at it, let's here the excuses for why Minnesota fans out-numbered BC fans in Tampa 40-1 again (always good comedy).

Call it a hunch, but it might have something to do with the fact that MN is a much larger school (undergrad enrollment is roughly 4x BC's) and has a far larger alumni base. Plus as the flagship institution of higher education in Minnesota with a regional TV contract that has existed for decades, MN almost certainly has more casual fans (i.e. those who never actually attended the U) than any other college hockey program.

Of course, given that your arguments are completely devoid of logic and sense, I fully expect this post to fall upon deaf ears and blind eyes.

 

[Dirty]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

While were at it, let's here the excuses for why Minnesota fans out-numbered BC fans in Tampa 40-1 again (always good comedy).

The entire town of Pori flew in to watch Erik Haula play.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Call it a hunch, but it might have something to do with the fact that MN is a much larger school (undergrad enrollment is roughly 4x BC's) and has a far larger alumni base. Plus as the flagship institution of higher education in Minnesota with a regional TV contract that has existed for decades, MN almost certainly has more casual fans (i.e. those who never actually attended the U) than any other college hockey program.

Of course, given that your arguments are completely devoid of logic and sense, I fully expect this post to fall upon deaf ears and blind eyes.

Yep, that's my favorite excuse. I went to Tampa with a large group of people (15 of us). Not one of us went to school at the U of M. The TV contract angle I can certainly see, but think that also gets back to the general point that it's sad that an awesome, rad program like BC that everyone should "envy" has so few fans and so few interested in it that a TV contract earlier was unfeasible.

Pure sadness.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Nice revisionist history.

Oh really?

Just found some of the comments I've read to be short sighted. For instance, that Minnesota is weak defensively. No so. Minnesota has Top 3 in goals against for 3/4 of the year. We are VERY young defensively. Only 1 upper-classman, and he's a junior. Senior goalie though, who (when on his game) is very solid. Or that BC has pummeled the WCHA for the "better part of 15 years". The WCHA has 7 National Championships, including 4 in a row and 5 in 6 years in the past 15 years.

I think the points I made there are more than fair. As for this comment (i corrected the many grammatical errors)...

"Gopher fans really look like buffoons this week. Really you'd think they would know better after seeing BC blow out the WCHA for the better part of the last 15 years." (a time period in which the WCHA has 7 national championships)

Is this the kind of garbage you really want to defend?

WHOOOOOPS!

 

[Bakunin]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Yep, that's my favorite excuse. I went to Tampa with a large group of people (15 of us). Not one of us went to school at the U of M.

Then I'll apply your provincial logic and say you're all impostors who should be kicked out of the fan base. How dare you lecture other Gopher fans and ***** at them for being "apologists". I graduated from the U and can call that school and its teams my own. You can't because you didn't go there. To put it another way, you're like some European or heaven forbid a Canuck tainting the purity of the team. See the fatal flaw in your logic yet, dip****?

The TV contract angle I can certainly see, but think that also gets back to the general point that it's sad that an awesome, rad program like BC that everyone should "envy" has so few fans and so few interested in it that a TV contract earlier was unfeasible.

You do realize Boston has several D-I teams, right? It'd be like if all the programs in MN were in the twin cities, and if one of them also had five NCAA titles and a following roughly on par with the Gophers. Given that setup, you're not likely to see any of them secure an exclusive TV deal.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Oh really?





WHOOOOOPS!

My point still stands. The WCHA has still won 7 titles in the past 15 years and BC's success against the WCHA had little impact on their game against Minnesota this year. They beat the Gophers because they were the better team this year.

Still a dumb point.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Then I'll apply your provincial logic and say you're all impostors who should be kicked out of the fan base. How dare you lecture other Gopher fans and ***** at them for being "apologists". I graduated from the U and can call that school and its teams my own. You can't because you didn't go there. To put it another way, you're like some European or heaven forbid a Canuck tainting the purity of the team. See the fatal flaw in your logic yet, dip****?

You do realize Boston has several D-I teams, right? It'd be like if all the programs in MN were in the twin cities, and if one of them also had five NCAA titles and a following roughly on par with the Gophers. Given that setup, you're not likely to see any of them secure an exclusive TV deal.

No, I don't see a flaw in my argument. Just one fan base that supports their team, one that does not, and a whole bunch of excuses to explain the latter. Again, it's quite sad.

 

[J.D.]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

He was American. Being Minnesotan is just gravy.

You still haven't said anything stupid yet in response to the fact BC had one more non-American in the lineup than your Gophers. I'm patiently waiting...

While were at it, let's here the excuses for why Minnesota fans out-numbered BC fans in Tampa 40-1 again (always good comedy).

Really, 40-1? I think you must have failed math somewhere along the way.

Yep, that's my favorite excuse. I went to Tampa with a large group of people (15 of us). Not one of us went to school at the U of M. The TV contract angle I can certainly see, but think that also gets back to the general point that it's sad that an awesome, rad program like BC that everyone should "envy" has so few fans and so few interested in it that a TV contract earlier was unfeasible.

Pure sadness.

The pure sadness here is that you can't get it into your pea sized brain that envying a hockey program and envying a fan base are two entirely different things. BC has a lot of subway alums as well, just like Minnesota. The fact remains that Minnesota is a large state school...BC has never and never will compare to the fan support that a Minnesota/Wisconsin/North Dakota has. Only a moron would expect otherwise. Don't forget that this was Minnesota's first FF since 2005. Since that time, this was BCs fifth. That certainly makes a difference when it comes time to traveling. But hey, if you wanna hang your hat on Minnesota having more fans, be my guest. Do they have out trophies for that?

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Then I'll apply your provincial logic and say you're all impostors who should be kicked out of the fan base. How dare you lecture other Gopher fans and ***** at them for being "apologists". I graduated from the U and can call that school and its teams my own. You can't because you didn't go there. To put it another way, you're like some European or heaven forbid a Canuck tainting the purity of the team. See the fatal flaw in your logic yet, dip****?

You do realize Boston has several D-I teams, right? It'd be like if all the programs in MN were in the twin cities, and if one of them also had five NCAA titles and a following roughly on par with the Gophers. Given that setup, you're not likely to see any of them secure an exclusive TV deal.

I don't know what's worse - Him or you for continuing to argue with him. Just ignore him so he goes away. Please

 

[darker98]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

I had to go back 5 pages. I should have know JDUBBS was involved.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

JD - In response to your post.

1. I don't need to keep hammering home the point. It's self proving. Everyone knows your program is absolutely incapable of accomplishing something only UMN and BU have been able to do (win with just Americans), much less something only UMN could do (win with only in-state players).

2. Yes, 40-1. Which was a conservative estimate on my part.

3. Ha! Your fanbase isn't even in the same class as ours, so comparison of that would be futile on your part (see #2). The only comparisons you could possibly make are between the actual programs. In response to your attempts at those comparisons, I ask that you re-read #1.

 

[Dirty]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

JDUBBS seriously is my favorite bit poster. He's just so entertaining!

 

[J.D.]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

JDUBBS, the difference is I don't care if my team has Canadian players or players from other states. That's what makes college so great. But, you're really going to make a case that this BC team couldn't have won the national title without role players Isaac MacLeod and Destry Straight? Really? Do they give out trophies based off who has the most Americans/in-state players?

40-1, eh? Yep, there is now no doubt that you failed math.

Do you know how to read? I said BC will never be able to compete with the Minnesota fan base. Do they give out trophies for that?

 

[JDUBBS1280]

JDUBBS, the difference is I don't care if my team has Canadian players or players from other states. That's what makes college so great. But, you're really going to make a case that this BC team couldn't have won the national title without role players Isaac MacLeod and Destry Straight? Really? Do they give out trophies based off who has the most Americans/in-state players?

40-1, eh? Yep, there is now no doubt that you failed math.

Do you know how to read? I said BC will never be able to compete with the Minnesota fan base. Do they give out trophies for that?

And if my team was incapable of doing something, I probably wouldn't care much about it either. But excuse me if I don't believe for a second that you wouldn't be proud if your program did something no other program has been capable of doing, and something as recently as 2002 that only BU was capable of doing (and not since the 1960's).

No one said you shouldn't enjoy your team's accomplishments, or that you shouldn't be proud of them. Just don't expect us to "envy" your program. You can't out-arrogant a Gopher fan.

 

[J.D.]

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

I give up...think I learned my lesson. When challenged, you're simply "incapable" of answering direct questions.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

I give up...think I learned my lesson. When challenged, you're simply "incapable" of answering direct questions.

I think I more than adequately answered your questions. You just didn't like the answers. You and I value different things. And what I value makes it nearly impossible for me to ever "envy" your program. Just like my beliefs, and those of Gopher fans like me, make it difficult for a lot of people to like our fanbase.

 

[REDMEN2002]

Hahahahahahahahaha!!

Is this dude serious?

Yeah, BC is on a nice run. Gophers went on a similar run under Brooks in the 1970's. Only difference is, Brooks didn't have to leave the country (and a few times didn't even leave the state) to do his recruiting. BC's accomplishments pale in comparison.

Sorry pal, we've got the arrogance bit copyrighted.

So you're saying Brooks had it easier recruiting at Minnesota than York does at BC?

Also, what does that have to do with actual programs? We're talking teams, not regional areas/states.

Your provincialism is unbecoming, especially when you inject it into arguments where it isn't needed or relevant.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

So you're saying Brooks had it easier recruiting at Minnesota than York does at BC?

Also, what does that have to do with actual programs? We're talking teams, not regional areas/states.

Your provincialism is unbecoming, especially when you inject it into arguments where it isn't needed or relevant.

The Gophers are bigger than just a hockey program.

 

[REDMEN2002]

JDUBBS seriously is my favorite bit poster. He's just so entertaining!

He is very consistent. Did you know the sun shines brighter in Minnesota than anywhere else on Earth?

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Did you know the sun shines brighter in Minnesota than anywhere else on Earth?

I don't believe that is true.