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If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

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JDUBBS1280 said:
So, the guy who trashes our program more than Sioux fans all of a sudden cares about our image? Spare me.
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Admitting to faults/mistakes is not the same thing as trashing the program. I can be proud of the program (yeah, I attended the school and attended my first game in '73) and recognize it's not perfect. I can also recognize the successes of programs such as UND and BC without feeling like I cheated or committed treason. Do you not find it curious you're being out-polled here (using math you can appreciate) 50-1? :)
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Slap Shot... are you telling me that you can be a fan of a team without turning it into an insufferable circle jerk? Surely, you jest.
 
Slap Shot said:
Admitting to faults/mistakes is not the same thing as trashing the program. I can be proud of the program (yeah, I attended the school and attended my first game in '73) and recognize it's not perfect. I can also recognize the successes of programs such as UND and BC without feeling like I cheated or committed treason. Do you not find it curious you're being out-polled here (using math you can appreciate) 50-1? :)
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You see, I don't think you understand my position. I absolutely recognize the success of programs like UND and BC. I wouldn't goso far as to say I "respect" them, though I won't fault any Gopher fan who wants to give them their respect. However, there is no way I will EVER be "envious" of those programs, or respect any Gopher fan who is.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Contribute to what? You making an *** out of yourself? Hopefully the rest of the board doesn't think all Gopher fans are like you.
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Speaking for the rest of the board, we do. :p

Scooby = Dubbers :D
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

cc EODS - crazy, right?

JDUBBS1280 said:
However, there is no way I will EVER be "envious" of those programs, or respect any Gopher fan who is.
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Agreeing that respect is not the same thing as envy, which Gophers fan explicitly said they are envious? And to be honest even if they did who gives a crap? I mean you're going to tell me this thread grew by 8 pages since yesterday because you're upset someone expressed envy (if it even happened in the first place)?

For fukks sake, I don't begrudge J.D., Caustic, FS23, Gurt, Magness, etc., etc., for being proud of their programs and I have no problem having a respectable dialogue in which they argue, "theirs is the best" without feeling it necessarily to throw a nutter - but more importantly - without doing everything I can to impugn them for 'having the audacity' to not only feel differently but carry a pride all their own. If every non-Gophers fan bought into your philosophies there'd be no opposing fans and by cause no surviving opposing programs. Where's the fun in that? Perhaps I'm being overly wordy as one other poster put it rather succinctly:

SJHovey said:
Don't think anyone has questioned that. Your main problem seems to be a failure to recognize that expressing that pride doesn't necessarily require you to run down the traditions and culture of other programs, which might be every bit as good, and of which their fans are equally proud.
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I wish you no ill will but give it a rest.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

It's actually a little refreshing to see someone as doggedly provincial as Dubber in the post-internet age. Disturbing too, of course.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

JDUBBS1280 said:
JD - In response to your post.

1. I don't need to keep hammering home the point. It's self proving. Everyone knows your program is absolutely incapable of accomplishing something only UMN and BU have been able to do (win with just Americans), much less something only UMN could do (win with only in-state players).
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First of all, much more so than with MN, BC has a very diverse (International) student body, so I don't think it's unreasonable when the percentage of foreigners on the hockey team is similar to that of the general student body. I have a lot more of a problem when a school like Merrimack or UML has a total of 15 foreigners enrolled in the school, and every one of them happens to be on the hockey team. Furthermore, It's hardly like BC's recent championships were the result of dominating performances from Canadian players. On this years squad, the highest scoring Canadian, Destry Straight, was 12th on the team in scoring and on the 2010 title team the highest scoring Canadian, Matt Price, was also 12th. Bottom line, BC obviously doesn't need a roster full of Canadians to be successful.
 
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Tipsy McStagger said:
Ok, so if you watched the championship game, you would guess that there were fewer than 500 BC fans there? That is absurd. Because 40 times 500 equals 20,000. Which is roughly the size of the arena.
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his poor math skills are probably why he didnt get into UMN
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

JDUBBS1280 said:
And if my team was incapable of doing something, I probably wouldn't care much about it either. But excuse me if I don't believe for a second that you wouldn't be proud if your program did something no other program has been capable of doing, and something as recently as 2002 that only BU was capable of doing (and not since the 1960's).

No one said you shouldn't enjoy your team's accomplishments, or that you shouldn't be proud of them. Just don't expect us to "envy" your program. You can't out-arrogant a Gopher fan.
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your team (errr, sorry, the team you follow, mr tag along) cant do it anymore either. so why should anyone envy them?
 
SteveF said:
your team (errr, sorry, the team you follow, mr tag along) cant do it anymore either. so why should anyone envy them?
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Sure they can. And no one said you had to envy the program I follow. I'm just explaining why it's ridiculous to think any Gopher fan would envy yours.
 
carltonbarrett said:
First of all, much more so than with MN, BC has a very diverse (International) student body, so I don't think it's unreasonable when the percentage of foreigners on the hockey team is similar to that of the general student body. I have a lot more of a problem when a school like Merrimack or UML has a total of 15 foreigners enrolled in the school, and every one of them happens to be on the hockey team. Furthermore, It's hardly like BC's recent championships were the result of dominating performances from Canadian players. On this years squad, the highest scoring Canadian, Destry Straight, was 12th on the team in scoring and on the 2010 title team the highest scoring Canadian, Matt Price, was also 12th. Bottom line, BC obviously doesn't need a roster full of Canadians to be successful.
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So, BC can't find role guys in the states?
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
So, BC can't find role guys in the states?
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Why should they have to? As I mentioned, there are hundreds of international students enrolled at the school, so what's wrong with having one or two on the hockey team, especially when they come in as 18 year old "true freshmen" and not 21 year old semi-pros that should be playing in the ECHL. Heck, even Lucia, in one of the recent USCHO articles, mentioned that the BC and MN teams were a lot alike in that they tended to be built around local, non-Canadian talent.
 
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carltonbarrett said:
Why should they have to? As I mentioned, there are hundreds of international students enrolled at the school, so what's wrong with having one or two on the hockey team, especially when they come in as 18 year old "true freshmen" and not 21 year old semi-pros that should be playing in the ECHL.
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I don't think anyone said they should have to.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

carltonbarrett said:
Why should they have to? As I mentioned, there are hundreds of international students enrolled at the school, so what's wrong with having one or two on the hockey team, especially when they come in as 18 year old "true freshmen" and not 21 year old semi-pros that should be playing in the ECHL. Heck, even Lucia, in one of the recent USCHO articles, mentioned that the BC and MN teams were a lot alike in that they tended to be built around local, non-Canadian talent.
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he is mentally deranged.. he wont face up to the fact that minnesota's best player is currently from finland. and they only won the title in 2003 because of an Austrian named Vanek (i guess its a step up from needing a home game and a fake penalty in OT!)
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

You won't find a bigger supporter of 18 year old freshmen and teams not built around 15 Canadians than me, and believe me, BC is about as good as it gets in that regard.

p.s. don't believe the 1949 BC NC team had any Canadians
 
SteveF said:
he is mentally deranged.. he wont face up to the fact that minnesota's best player is currently from finland. and they only won the title in 2003 because of an Austrian named Vanek (i guess its a step up from needing a home game and a fake penalty in OT!)
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More personal attacks. Hmmm. And FYI... Our best player now is a Minnesotan. And you continue to ignore our 2002 championship squad. All-American ;)
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
More personal attacks. Hmmm. And FYI... Our best player now is a Minnesotan. And you continue to ignore our 2002 championship squad. All-American ;)
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That's what he referred to when he mentioned the fake penalty and home game, genius.
 
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