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Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

--- Home Lock - 34 (UMA/BU/UML) ---
--- In - 31 (MC) ---
UNH 29 - 41 [1-9]
BC 24 - 38 [1-9]
ME 24 - 38 [1-9]
UMA 22 - 34 [1-9]
BU 20 - 34 [1-10]
UML 20 - 34 [1-10]
NU 19 - 33 [1-10]
UVM 19 - 33 [1-10]
MC 15 - 31 [1-10]
--- Home Eligible - 23 (UMA/UML/BU/...) ---
PC 10 - 22 [6-10]
--- Out - 19 (NU/UVM) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVMx2, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - UML, @NU/NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – @BU, UMLx2, @MCx2, UMAx2
UMA - @NU, @MC/MC, @BC, @MEx2
BU - ME, @PC/PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UML - @BC, @MEx2, PC/@PC, UVMx2
UVM - MC, @UNHx2, BUx2, @UMLx2
NU - UMA, BC/@BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
MC - @UVM, UMA/@UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
PC – BU/@BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

Looks to me like a UVM win tonight a UNH is IN as MC max goes to 29 and UNH already holds the tie breaker.

I don't think anything else can happen based on current points situation.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

I know. I rounded to the nearest whole number. I didn't go game by game I took more of a marco average opponent point of view. The little program I wrote will assign .12876112356 of a point. The order was surprising that the tie breaks and the points all worked out (spooky actually). The lost points are consumed in the fractional points. Also suprising is all rounded down.

Probably should have commented on this with the rest of the non sense.

“If you see a snake, just kill it - don't take more of a macro average opponent point of view on snakes and assign .12876112346th of a point.” Ross Perot

:p
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

As a UNH fan I was having a hard time believing that at this late point in the season the 'Cats could still fall out of the playoffs given their current position. So, I took a very simple look at the situation without trying to evaluate the copious permutations.

There are 34 games left (assuming I can add) and therefore 68 points available. I started with BC and began awarding enough points to catch or pass UNH, depending upon who held the tie-breaker. Assuming UNH didn't secure another point, I still ran out of points as I got to MC. That's not to say that MC can't catch UNH, but to do so they would need some of the points I gave to someone else.

My conclusion is that UNH can't actually finish below 8th, and is therefore in. This doesn't effect the earlier conclusions about where any particular team can finish (except UNH), just accounts for the fact(?) that there aren't enough total points left for eight teams to pass UNH.

Correct? or wishful thinking?:D
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

As a UNH fan I was having a hard time believing that at this late point in the season the 'Cats could still fall out of the playoffs given their current position. So, I took a very simple look at the situation without trying to evaluate the copious permutations.

There are 34 games left (assuming I can add) and therefore 68 points available. I started with BC and began awarding enough points to catch or pass UNH, depending upon who held the tie-breaker. Assuming UNH didn't secure another point, I still ran out of points as I got to MC. That's not to say that MC can't catch UNH, but to do so they would need some of the points I gave to someone else.

My conclusion is that UNH can't actually finish below 8th, and is therefore in. This doesn't effect the earlier conclusions about where any particular team can finish (except UNH), just accounts for the fact(?) that there aren't enough total points left for eight teams to pass UNH.

Correct? or wishful thinking?:D

You appear to be correct. Because of the remaining schedule, there can be an 8-way tie for 1st at 29 points, but someone else always finishes 9th. UNH has already clinched a playoff berth.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

My conclusion is that UNH can't actually finish below 8th, and is therefore in. This doesn't effect the earlier conclusions about where any particular team can finish (except UNH), just accounts for the fact(?) that there aren't enough total points left for eight teams to pass UNH.

Correct? or wishful thinking?:D

Most likely correct. Nobody wants to detail the rest of the season out to this level. A MC loss tonight we don't need to do every combination and permutation to figure it out. Remember you need to account for tie breakers which could allow teams to pass UNH with the same number of points.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

Code:
New Hampshire	27	33
Boston College	27	32
Boston U	27	32
Massachusetts	27	31
Mass.-Lowell	27	29
Northeastern	27	28
Merrimack	27	26
Vermont 	27	25
Maine	        27	24
Providence	27	10
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

--- Home Lock - 34 (BU) ---
--- In - 31 (MC) ---
UNH 29 - 41 [1-9]
BC 26 - 38 [1-9]
ME 24 - 36 [1-9]
BU 22 - 34 [1-10]
UMA 22 - 32 [1-9]
NU 21 - 33 [1-10]
UML 20 - 32 [1-10]
UVM 19 - 31 [1-10]
MC 17 - 31 [1-10]
--- Home Eligible - 24 (BU/NU/UML/UVM) ---
PC 10 - 22 [6-10]
--- Out - 19 (UVM) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVMx2, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - @NU/NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – UMLx2, @MCx2, UMAx2
BU - @PC/PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UMA - @MC/MC, @BC, @MEx2
NU - BC/@BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
UML - @MEx2, PC/@PC, UVMx2
UVM - @UNHx2, BUx2, @UMLx2
MC - UMA/@UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
PC – BU/@BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

Where the lower seeded teams in each matchup going into the weekend took 7 of 10 points on Friday, they continued their success by taking 6 of 8 on Saturday.

Factoring in the sweeps by BU and NU - the latter over UMA - and the split by UML, there's a logjam for the fourth and final home ice spot. UMA has been caught by BU at 22. NU is a point back at 21 and UML is a game back at 20, but everyone has a game in hand on UMA, who only has five games left.

BU already has the tb over UMA, so if the playoffs were seeded right now, UMA would be on the road to Agganis. In fact, BU has the tb over every team that they are finished with, except UNH (BC, ME, UMA, UML, MC). Further, each of those series are 2-1 BU (v UNH is 0-2-1) - and in every case except UML, BU lost the first game before winning the final two. With UML, BU won the first game in OT, before losing the 2nd and winning the 3rd, fittingly, on "Wear Red" Day. In all three BU/UML meetings, the road team won by one.

(The Maine sweep, combined with BU hitting the BOGO marketing target of the neighboring chicken restaurant, allowed Terrier fans to experience a literal "winner, winner, chicken dinner" weekend.)

If NU and UML were assumed to win their games in hand, UMA would be sixth seed by virtue of their 2-1 series win earning them the tb over UML.

For UMA, if they want to stay a factor for home ice, they're going to need to find a way to get back to their successful early season stride and away from their ongoing 1-of-6 stumble.

UML, too, has to break out of their recent rut, having lost 4-of-5 and 6-of-9.

On the flip side of those slumps are NU - having won four straight overall, five straight league games, and six of their last seven, both overall and in the league - and BU - four straight and 8-of-10 in HE, 9-of-12 overall since New Year's.

On a similar up-tick, the Warriors of Merrimack are on a 4-2-1 run including, for them, a significant first point and then first win away from the friendly confines of Volpe.

UNH's lead on 2nd place BC is back down to 3 - courtesy, in part, of a very late GWG by BC's Kreider last night. Over the next two weeks, UNH will host a back-sliding Catamount team (0-1-2 in last 3, 1-2-3 in last 6) for a pair and then a home-and-home with NU while BC heads into a rare Friday-Sunday-Tuesday-Friday skein. All of that leads into a final weekend head-to-head home-and-home between the current top two.

After Maine's sweep of UNH last week helped make things more interesting by keeping UNH in reach of the peloton, their being swept by BU this week prevents them from moving up on, or even keeping pace with, UNH and BC who got two points each this weekend. It also keeps them within striking distance of the snarl of teams right behind them, with a mere two point margin.

With UMA's loss, the teams from 4th to 8th are all within three points of each other. Factor in Merrimack's win and the possibility of two more points from their game-in-hand on the field, and you could arguably add 9th place into that Gordian Knot, meaning the difference between "home ice" and "out of the playoffs" is razor thin.

Outside of all that excitement is idle Providence. Part of their upcoming problem is that MC keeps adding points, not only extending the distance between PC and the rest of the conference, but shrinking the margin of error for PC to find a way to move up. With thirty games left in the HE regular season, PC plays in only six and the rest of those points have to go somewhere. Merrimack being a part of that mix doesn't do PC any favors.

What is in PC's favor is that all of their remaining series are against teams still mathematically within reach (BU, UML, MC). The Friars not only have to make up seven points on MC, likely including a sweep on the final weekend, but every point that MC doesn't get moves the rest of the pack along like a carrot at the other end of a Friar-held stick. Of course, ultimately, for PC, the goal is not just to pass MC to avoid the absolute cellar, but to pass someone else too, and extend their season.

Add in the games where the teams within reach play each other (BU/NU, BU/UVM, UML/UVM) and PC's uphill climb gets worse. If the teams ahead of them split each series the rest of the way, PC will be out of the playoffs by next Sunday. (They'd have 12, with a max of 20, and 8th place UVM would have 21.) PC's only real hope is that the points concentrate with certain teams and other teams get little to none (very, very close to none). They don't have to catch everyone, they only have to catch two.

That said, they could still end up 6th, and could still take the tb from BU and tie them at 22 - although not necessarily at the same time. That means that PC's range stays at 6-10 and BU can still fall to 10th place. At the other margins, MC winning and UNH being idle means that no one else's ranges move either.

MC keeps the In line at 31. UVM losing keeps the Out line at 19. 4th place BU keeping their max at 34 keeps the Home Lock line in place.

The last thing to figure out is Home Eligible. Starting from the edges and working our way in...

Since UNH, BC and Maine are already ahead of 4th, them taking all available points doesn't affect the math of possibilities for that final slot. Since PC can't reach it, ditto. After all of that, MC can't reach it either, so they can win their last undetermined series (UMA) and have no impact - which also finishes up UMA's schedule as all losses and leaves them at 22. That leaves us with the following unaccounted for series where we need to distribute points to minimize whoever ends up in 4th: BU/UVM, BU/NU, UML/UVM. The teams would all be starting from their current point totals.

So... looking at the top two of that group, BU and NU play two. Those are the points that are going to be hardest to minimize when resetting the benchmark. Splitting up those four points means that one of the two has to have at least 24. Since those would be the last of NU's undetermined games, and points, let's give that distinction to NU with a 3-1 balance. That means the new target to stay under for keeping 4th mathematically alive for those below it is 24. That's now easy enough to stay within by having UML sweep UVM, putting them at 24, and having UVM sweep BU, leaving both at 23.

Realize that this is not a prediction. Merely a model to see what's mathematically possible. If a team loses tbs to NU and UML, that doesn't mean they are out of the running. BU could split with NU and put BU at 24 and NU at 23. Likewise, UVM could steal a point at Tsongas and be the one at 24 with UML at 23. Any of the teams that you place at 23 in any scenario could take another point from somewhere else on their schedule making it a three or four way tie at 24. For that matter, UMA could hit 24 and MC could hit 24, adding to the dog pile. In fact, all six of those teams could still, mathematically, be tied at 24 at the same time - meaning that the final home ice team, the team missing the playoffs at ninth, and everyone in between would all be placing their seed in the hands of the tie-breaker math.

Also realize that this does not mean that PC is actually out, since the foursome of BU/NU/UML/UVM all hit at least 23 above and PC's max is 22. Those are scenarios (scenaria?) where we are trying to minimize the points held by the 4th seed to see how low it is possible to keep it. For PC to reach 6th, a different, almost diametrically-opposite, strategy is used. Instead of distributing the points as evenly as we can, we'd concentrate the points on fewer teams, leaving as many teams as possible for PC to catch - similar to piling all possible points on teams 1-3 in the above calculations, except also for teams in 4th and 5th as well. I've run the numbers and PC can still get 6th, using tbs.

All that these mathematical hypotheses mean is that, as of right now, if you can still reach 24, you are still alive for the final Home Ice spot and, therefore, Home Eligible.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

--- Home Lock - 34 (BU) ---
UNH 29 - 41 [1-8]
--- In - 29 (MC/Field) ---
BC 26 - 38 [1-9]
ME 24 - 36 [1-9]
BU 22 - 34 [1-10]
UMA 22 - 32 [1-9]
NU 21 - 33 [1-10]
UML 20 - 32 [1-10]
UVM 19 - 31 [1-10]
MC 17 - 31 [1-10]
--- Home Eligible - 24 (BU/NU/UML/UVM) ---
PC 10 - 22 [6-10]
--- Out - 19 (UVM) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVMx2, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - @NU/NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – UMLx2, @MCx2, UMAx2
BU - @PC/PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UMA - @MC/MC, @BC, @MEx2
NU - BC/@BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
UML - @MEx2, PC/@PC, UVMx2
UVM - @UNHx2, BUx2, @UMLx2
MC - UMA/@UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
PC – BU/@BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

As a UNH fan I was having a hard time believing that at this late point in the season the 'Cats could still fall out of the playoffs given their current position. So, I took a very simple look at the situation without trying to evaluate the copious permutations.

There are 34 games left (assuming I can add) and therefore 68 points available. I started with BC and began awarding enough points to catch or pass UNH, depending upon who held the tie-breaker. Assuming UNH didn't secure another point, I still ran out of points as I got to MC. That's not to say that MC can't catch UNH, but to do so they would need some of the points I gave to someone else.

My conclusion is that UNH can't actually finish below 8th, and is therefore in. This doesn't effect the earlier conclusions about where any particular team can finish (except UNH), just accounts for the fact(?) that there aren't enough total points left for eight teams to pass UNH.

Correct? or wishful thinking?:D
You appear to be correct. Because of the remaining schedule, there can be an 8-way tie for 1st at 29 points, but someone else always finishes 9th. UNH has already clinched a playoff berth.
Most likely correct. Nobody wants to detail the rest of the season out to this level. A MC loss tonight we don't need to do every combination and permutation to figure it out. Remember you need to account for tie breakers which could allow teams to pass UNH with the same number of points.
I went back in and did the combo math. I can get a scenario where UNH is behind or tied with (losing the tb) all except PC, Maine and UMA, with the UMA/Maine series pending and each team at 25. Since ME already has the UNH tb, I can get UNH as low as 8th, but I can't get them to 9th.

The Wildcats are the first team officially in.

That also drops the "In" line to 29.
 
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Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

--- Home Lock - 34 (BU) ---
--- In - 31 (MC) ---
UNH 29 - 41 [1-9]
BC 26 - 38 [1-9]
ME 24 - 36 [1-9]
BU 22 - 34 [1-10]
UMA 22 - 32 [1-9]
NU 21 - 33 [1-10]
UML 20 - 32 [1-10]
UVM 19 - 31 [1-10]
MC 17 - 31 [1-10]
--- Home Eligible - 24 (BU/NU/UML/UVM) ---
PC 10 - 22 [6-10]
--- Out - 19 (UVM) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVMx2, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - @NU/NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – UMLx2, @MCx2, UMAx2
BU - @PC/PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UMA - @MC/MC, @BC, @MEx2
NU - BC/@BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
UML - @MEx2, PC/@PC, UVMx2
UVM - @UNHx2, BUx2, @UMLx2
MC - UMA/@UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
PC – BU/@BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

Where the lower seeded teams in each matchup going into the weekend took 7 of 10 points on Friday, they continued their success by taking 6 of 8 on Saturday.

Factoring in the sweeps by BU and NU - the latter over UMA - and the split by UML, there's a logjam for the fourth and final home ice spot. UMA has been caught by BU at 22. NU is a point back at 21 and UML is a game back at 20, but everyone has a game in hand on UMA, who only has five games left.

BU already has the tb over UMA, so if the playoffs were seeded right now, UMA would be on the road to Agganis. In fact, BU has the tb over every team that they are finished with, except UNH (BC, ME, UMA, UML, MC). Further, each of those series are 2-1 BU (v UNH is 0-2-1) - and in every case except UML, BU lost the first game before winning the final two. With UML, BU won the first game in OT, before losing the 2nd and winning the 3rd, fittingly, on "Wear Red" Day. In all three BU/UML meetings, the road team won by one.

(The Maine sweep, combined with BU hitting the BOGO marketing target of the neighboring chicken restaurant, allowed Terrier fans to experience a literal "winner, winner, chicken dinner" weekend.)

If NU and UML were assumed to win their games in hand, UMA would be sixth seed by virtue of their 2-1 series win earning them the tb over UML.

For UMA, if they want to stay a factor for home ice, they're going to need to find a way to get back to their successful early season stride and away from their ongoing 1-of-6 stumble.

UML, too, has to break out of their recent rut, having lost 4-of-5 and 6-of-9.

On the flip side of those slumps are NU - having won four straight overall, five straight league games, and six of their last seven, both overall and in the league - and BU - four straight and 8-of-10 in HE, 9-of-12 overall since New Year's.

On a similar up-tick, the Warriors of Merrimack are on a 4-2-1 run including, for them, a significant first point and then first win away from the friendly confines of Volpe.

UNH's lead on 2nd place BC is back down to 3 - courtesy, in part, of a very late GWG by BC's Kreider last night. Over the next two weeks, UNH will host a back-sliding Catamount team (0-1-2 in last 3, 1-2-3 in last 6) for a pair and then a home-and-home with NU while BC heads into a rare Friday-Sunday-Tuesday-Friday skein. All of that leads into a final weekend head-to-head home-and-home between the current top two.

After Maine's sweep of UNH last week helped make things more interesting by keeping UNH in reach of the peloton, their being swept by BU this week prevents them from moving up on, or even keeping pace with, UNH and BC who got two points each this weekend. It also keeps them within striking distance of the snarl of teams right behind them, with a mere two point margin.

With UMA's loss, the teams from 4th to 8th are all within three points of each other. Factor in Merrimack's win and the possibility of two more points from their game-in-hand on the field, and you could arguably add 9th place into that Gordian Knot, meaning the difference between "home ice" and "out of the playoffs" is razor thin.

Outside of all that excitement is idle Providence. Part of their upcoming problem is that MC keeps adding points, not only extending the distance between PC and the rest of the conference, but shrinking the margin of error for PC to find a way to move up. With thirty games left in the HE regular season, PC plays in only six and the rest of those points have to go somewhere. Merrimack being a part of that mix doesn't do PC any favors.

What is in PC's favor is that all of their remaining series are against teams still mathematically within reach (BU, UML, MC). The Friars not only have to make up seven points on MC, likely including a sweep on the final weekend, but every point that MC doesn't get moves the rest of the pack along like a carrot at the other end of a Friar-held stick. Of course, ultimately, for PC, the goal is not just to pass MC to avoid the absolute cellar, but to pass someone else too, and extend their season.

Add in the games where the teams within reach play each other (BU/NU, BU/UVM, UML/UVM) and PC's uphill climb gets worse. If the teams ahead of them split each series the rest of the way, PC will be out of the playoffs by next Sunday. (They'd have 12, with a max of 20, and 8th place UVM would have 21.) PC's only real hope is that the points concentrate with certain teams and other teams get little to none (very, very close to none). They don't have to catch everyone, they only have to catch two.

That said, they could still end up 6th, and could still take the tb from BU and tie them at 22 - although not necessarily at the same time. That means that PC's range stays at 6-10 and BU can still fall to 10th place. At the other margins, MC winning and UNH being idle means that no one else's ranges move either.

MC keeps the In line at 31. UVM losing keeps the Out line at 19. 4th place BU keeping their max at 34 keeps the Home Lock line in place.

The last thing to figure out is Home Eligible. Starting from the edges and working our way in...

Since UNH, BC and Maine are already ahead of 4th, them taking all available points doesn't affect the math of possibilities for that final slot. Since PC can't reach it, ditto. After all of that, MC can't reach it either, so they can win their last undetermined series (UMA) and have no impact - which also finishes up UMA's schedule as all losses and leaves them at 22. That leaves us with the following unaccounted for series where we need to distribute points to minimize whoever ends up in 4th: BU/UVM, BU/NU, UML/UVM. The teams would all be starting from their current point totals.

So... looking at the top two of that group, BU and NU play two. Those are the points that are going to be hardest to minimize when resetting the benchmark. Splitting up those four points means that one of the two has to have at least 24. Since those would be the last of NU's undetermined games, and points, let's give that distinction to NU with a 3-1 balance. That means the new target to stay under for keeping 4th mathematically alive for those below it is 24. That's now easy enough to stay within by having UML sweep UVM, putting them at 24, and having UVM sweep BU, leaving both at 23.

Realize that this is not a prediction. Merely a model to see what's mathematically possible. If a team loses tbs to NU and UML, that doesn't mean they are out of the running. BU could split with NU and put BU at 24 and NU at 23. Likewise, UVM could steal a point at Tsongas and be the one at 24 with UML at 23. Any of the teams that you place at 23 in any scenario could take another point from somewhere else on their schedule making it a three or four way tie at 24. For that matter, UMA could hit 24 and MC could hit 24, adding to the dog pile. In fact, all six of those teams could still, mathematically, be tied at 24 at the same time - meaning that the final home ice team, the team missing the playoffs at ninth, and everyone in between would all be placing their seed in the hands of the tie-breaker math.

Also realize that this does not mean that PC is actually out, since the foursome of BU/NU/UML/UVM all hit at least 23 above and PC's max is 22. Those are scenarios (scenaria?) where we are trying to minimize the points held by the 4th seed to see how low it is possible to keep it. For PC to reach 6th, a different, almost diametrically-opposite, strategy is used. Instead of distributing the points as evenly as we can, we'd concentrate the points on fewer teams, leaving as many teams as possible for PC to catch - similar to piling all possible points on teams 1-3 in the above calculations, except also for teams in 4th and 5th as well. I've run the numbers and PC can still get 6th, using tbs.

All that these mathematical hypotheses mean is that, as of right now, if you can still reach 24, you are still alive for the final Home Ice spot and, therefore, Home Eligible.

:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

That also drops the "In" line to 29.


Is the in line truely 29 or is this just a special exception and each team would need to be evaluated based on tie breakers?
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

But it sure was nice they quoted your entire post to put in a few confused smilies.

you're right, sorry to offend........the confused smiles were because i had not a very clear thinking brain at the time, just a shot at humor that didn't work i guess
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

you're right, sorry to offend........the confused smiles were because i had not a very clear thinking brain at the time, just a shot at humor that didn't work i guess


:) OK, at first it looked like you were minimizing the effort. The good news is if that didn't make perfect sense it all changes after the first unexpected result comes in. So we have that to look forward to.:D
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

Let me throw some different numbers into the mix.

Specifically, I've seen all 10 HE teams play, almost all of them more than once. In that run, I've watched at least 16 goalies and haven't been really impressed with any of them. Then I looked at the stats and see why.

GA GAA sv%

1 Hutton LO 37 2.06 .930
2 Muse BC 47 2.39 .912
3 Rawlings NU 63 2.57 .918
4 Madore VT 49 2.64 .908
5 Hamilton LO 33 2.73 .911
6 Beaudry PR 65 2.74 .918
7 Darling ME 64 2.87 .903
8 Dainton MA 68 2.96 .905
9 Foster NH 83 3.09 .904
10Br'hwaith MC 39 3.15 .900
11Millan BU 68 3.16 .885
12Cannata ME 49 3.35 .885

Is there anyone on the current list that you'd take before these top seven from 2006-07: Fallon, Curry, Regan, Bishop, Scheider, Quick, or Theissen?

The latter had a great freshman year, but was seventh that year in goals-against (2.48) and sixth in save percentage (.921). Today those numbers would rank him second and third, respectively. Or go back to 2004-05 when Kaltiaien, Scheider, Howard, and Curry all had GA averages less than two.

I suppose someone in the current crop could get hot (or more likely, lucky), but when you couple the bunched-up standings with the fact that there isn't a dominant goalie, these last three weekends (plus a Tuesday) look like a cr*pshoot to me.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

:) OK, at first it looked like you were minimizing the effort. The good news is if that didn't make perfect sense it all changes after the first unexpected result comes in. So we have that to look forward to.:D

nah, i gave this guy kudos for all the work he does on an earlier post.......
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

--- Home Lock - 34 (BU) ---
UNH 29 - 41 [1-8]
--- In - 29 (MC/Field) ---
BC 26 - 38 [1-9]
ME 24 - 36 [1-9]
BU 22 - 34 [1-10]
UMA 22 - 32 [1-9]
NU 21 - 33 [1-10]
UML 20 - 32 [1-10]
UVM 19 - 31 [1-10]
MC 17 - 31 [1-10]
--- Home Eligible - 24 (BU/NU/UML/UVM) ---
PC 10 - 22 [6-10]
--- Out - 19 (UVM) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVMx2, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - @NU/NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – UMLx2, @MCx2, UMAx2
BU - @PC/PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UMA - @MC/MC, @BC, @MEx2
NU - BC/@BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
UML - @MEx2, PC/@PC, UVMx2
UVM - @UNHx2, BUx2, @UMLx2
MC - UMA/@UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
PC – BU/@BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

Things that can happen this weekend:

If UNH sweeps UVM and NU or BU drop a point UNH is a home ice team. It gets UNH to 33 points, which would lead to at worst a tie with BU UNH holding the tie break or UNH finishing 1 point up on NU (in this case NU would hold the tie break). If UNH sweeps and both NU drops at least 1 point and BU drops 2 UNH is in the top 3. BU dropping at least 1 likely does the trick too but a 3+ way round robin tie breaker could do something weird.

A BU sweep of PC eliminates PC. PCs max would drop to 18 pts with 8th UVM currently at 19 pts.

BC sweeping with UML and UMA dropping at least 3 points each gets BC to home ice (only BU and ME could catch BC). There are potentials with UMA and UML dropping only 2 getting BC to home ice but that involves tie breakers potentially 3+ way I am not getting into right now. There are bunches of ways BC can be in by winning 2, I know the in line for UNH is 29 I am not sure if that holds true for BC based on tie breakers.

Maine can get "in" with a couple wins and MC and UVM dropping 2 each. Again there are ways that 3 points dropped by MC and UVM also work but I am not getting in to the tie breakers.

I think that is it. I don't see anybody else with the potential to be eliminated or clinch.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

UNH 31 - 41 [1-4]
--- Home Lock - 31 (NU/BU) ---
--- In - 28 (Field) ---
BC 26 - 36 [1-9]
ME 26 - 36 [1-9]
NU 23 - 33 [1-9]
BU 22 - 32 [1-10]
UMA 22 - 30 [2-9]
UML 20 - 30 [2-10]
MC 19 - 31 [2-10]
UVM 19 - 29 [2-10]
--- Home Eligible - 25 (NU/BU) ---
PC 12 - 22 [7-10]
--- Out - 19 (MC) ---

Remaining LEAGUE schedules:
UNH - UVM, @NU/NU, BC/@BC
BC - NU, MC, UMA, @UNH/UNH
ME – UML, @MCx2, UMAx2
NU - @BC, UNH/@UNH, @BU/BU
BU - PC, @UVMx2, NU/@NU
UMA - MC, @BC, @MEx2
UML - @ME, PC/@PC, UVMx2
MC - @UMA, @BC, MEx2, @PC/PC
UVM - @UNH, BUx2, @UMLx2
PC – @BU, @UML/UML, MC/@MC

UNH's win, combined with the losses by UMA, UML and UVM and the tb over MC, means they can't fall below any of those teams or PC - which means no lower than 5th. Maine and BC can still pass UNH with room to spare. Here's where the schedule comes in. After last night's BU loss at PC, BU and NU have maxes of 32 and 33, respectively - and still have a pair H2H. Since BU loses the UNH tb, they would need all available pts - including all four NU pts -to pass UNH, which would leave NU's max two short of UNH. Any other split of BU/NU pts would leave BU short. That eans that either of BU/NU could pass UNH, but not both. That leaves UNH in 4th at worst. Congrats on Home Ice. NU could still take the tb from UNH, should it matter.

The field is so packed that UNH is not only the only team that has Home Locked, but also the only team that is even In. In one night their range went from 1-8 to 1-4. Either of BC or Maine could still drop to 9th. In fact, they could tie for 8th with 26 at the same time. In that case, BC would take the tb and the final slot.

MC's continued strong home showing this season allowed them to catch UVM and still keep the game-in-hand. Plus they have the H2H tb. That puts UVM on the outside looking in for the day. That said, UVM can still be 2nd or 10th.

MC, BC and UMA are entering into an interesting period that will clear up the games in hand across the league by next Friday. Most of the field has five games left, MC one extra, UMA one fewer. MC needs to play an extra to draw even, but they have to play that extra against someone, which would then leave that team short, just like UMA. So MC will play BC mid-week and BC and UMA will match up next weekend and only play one.

In order to accomplish that, after everyone played last night, MC travels to UMA tonight and has a short turnaround for the game at Conte on Tuesday before hosting Maine for a pair next weekend. BC, on the other hand, rests tonight before hosting NU on Sunday afternoon, MC Tuesday night, and UMA Friday. It'll be interesting to see whether the extra night of rest for MC between two road games - esp when both teams will get so little (two nights vs one) - will help them more than BC's three game, every-other-day schedule, but having the final two at home (and the road game was all the way over at Matthews).

With NU's win, the Home Eligible line moves to 25, factoring in the NU/BU H2H still to come. The In line moves to 28 because it is still possible to be in 9th with 27 behind a logjam at 28. Even though there are enough loose points floating around to make it seem that 9th could get up to 28, the schedule doesn't allow it. What it comes down to is that if UML and UVM max out other than their H2H, they are at 26 and 25 respectively. Only one of those could get reach 28 or higher, leaving the other at 27 or lower. The schedule would still allow everyone else besides PC to be at 28 or higher. With only three points gap between those two benchmarks, that shows how tight the pack still is: with most having only five games to play, no one is In besides UNH, who already has Home Ice. If Maine and BC were to lose tonight/tom'w, that would still be true with only two weeks to go.

In fact, even considering the schedule, BU is right on the cusp in both directions with still being able to get 1st and still being able to fall to 10th, by losing the tb to PC's max. One point not in their favor in either direction, and their range starts to move. Factoring into that situation is that the only teams to hold the tb vs. BU are first place UNH and last place PC.

Because of the pending BU/UVM pair, PC can only get as high as 7th, and that uses the tb against BU. A PC loss combined with 2-of-3 of a MC win and any pts for UVM or UML would end PC's hopes for a post season. Slim margin for error.
 
Re: Hockey East - Who's in, who's out, who's home: by the numbers - 2009-10 edition

Thanks for the analysis....should be slightly clearer after this evening.
 
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