I give PC credit for sweeping UNH. After all, shootouts or not, if UNH had taken just one game from the Friars they would be regular season champs.
However, are you honestly arguing that shootouts are an indication that one TEAM had a better season than another?
THAT is why I have such an issue with shootouts. Two TEAMS played to a TIE for 65 minutes.
Then one team is given the equivalent of a legitimate WIN because an arbitrary, individual skills exhibition.
If the shootouts are to stay, I think the pt system needs to be reworked. Shootouts should NEVER be weighted the same as a legitimate win. For example, 3 pts for a win, 2 pts for a shootout win, and 1 pt for a shootout loss.
I don't know if it is the sheer number of ties in HE this year or the logic in Freak's aurgument , but I am beginning to agree with this point of view. Of the 50 games played in HE this year, 12 of them have ended in ties. That is almost 1/4 of the games, equating to 12 additional points. This could significantly impact the ratings, as I foresee (many) more ties before the season is over.
I personally am not excited by the prospect of watching the shootout, but realize others may be. That being said, if it is for "entertainment's sake", then the winner should get points in a statistical column that is used for tie-breaker purposes, rather than actual win points.
If I did the math correctly that would have given both UNH and PC 41 points, with the Friars still getting the top seed.
Sean
I don't think you did. One point for a tie; another point for a SO win. Not two points for a SO win plus another point for a tie.In fact, if I did my math correctly, none of the seedings would have changed.
Actually PC would have come out ahead outright.
PC 11-5-5-3 : (11*3)+(3*2)+5 = 44
UNH 13-6-2-0 : (13*3)+(0*2)+2 = 41
In fact, if I did my math correctly, none of the seedings would have changed.
However, I think people are just assuming that I'm bitter because UNH didn't win the regular season.
For me, it's the principle of the shootouts. They are NOT wins. They should NOT be weighted the same as a legitimate win. JMO.
I was just trying to prove the inaccuracy of that statement
Cavbim is right! And because I took the slanted statistics as a curse on our chances , I did go out and align the columns. What it shows you is that every year except one, the Season Champion did win the tournament, regardless of where it was held.
Naturally, this year the field is much, much tighter, but statistically speaking....
I don't think you did. One point for a tie; another point for a SO win. Not two points for a SO win plus another point for a tie.
Here are the actual points (AP), 3-point system (x3) and for what its worth, the old 5-point system used in mid-nineties for the men.I like the 3 point system. What would the standings have looked like with that in place?
2009-10 Standings AP x3 x5
Providence 21 11-5-5-3 30 41 68
New Hampshire 21 13-6-2-0 28 41 69
Boston University 21 10-6-5-3 28 38 63
Northeastern 21 9-6-6-4 28 37 61
Connecticut 21 10-5-6-1 27 37 63
Boston College 21 7-10-4-4 22 29 47
Vermont 21 5-15-1-0 11 16 27
Maine 21 3-15-3-1 10 13 22
Speaking of missing the point, you need to go back a few posts... The whole reason that I even brought up the fact about Season champs being tournament champs was in response to UNHKazooMonkey's comment that I did quote in my original response.
I was just trying to prove the inaccuracy of that statement since it was only last year that Hockey East went to the home ice for top seed, so yeah, there was only one host team that has every won the hockey east tournament. Prior to that, the host team was usually not the season champ.
If you mean the same host has been the only host to ever win you are correct. If you mean it individually Didn't UNH host in '07 and '09 and didn't they win the tourney each year.
That is also misleading. They kept it in Boston the first 4 years and coincidently 2 of the 3 years NU hosted they did not even make the tourney. The other year in Boston was given to BU when they as a still fledgling team they failed to make the tourney.
BU hosted the tournament in 2005, the season before they started varsity play (2005-06).The other year in Boston was given to BU when they as a still fledgling team they failed to make the tourney.
BU hosted the tournament in 2005, the season before they started varsity play (2005-06).
Sean
Looks like we need to start a thread; Women's Hockey East: A History eh?
Looks like we need to start a thread; Women's Hockey East: A History eh?