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Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

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NCHC moving on without Notre Dame
The NCHC is moving on without Notre Dame.

The league sent out a release this afternoon saying that it will start as an eight-team league in 2013-14.

Notre Dame has been negotiating with the NCHC, asking for significant advantages/benefits that the league’s athletic directors would not give to them.

Whether Notre Dame winds up going to Hockey East or holding out and waiting to see what happens with the Big East and its other athletic programs is up in the air.
Link: http://undhockey.areavoices.com/?p=88477

I haven't really been a fan of the NCHC brass but I absolutely respect the decision they've made. Didn't cave to the demands of Notre Dame. They may be a "name" or a "brand" but I'm glad the NCHC didn't accommodate these nose in the air *****s. It is apparent, ND wanted to be what Texas is to the Big XII but smaller and well, hockey.

I would've been mad about this if the NCHC didn't do anything about trying to get ND into the NCHC but it is obvious that Notre Dame bit off more than they could chew by asking for incentives that the NCHC is not willing to give them. So with that said, I'm fine with the teams in the NCHC. Sucks that ND isn't coming but with the stipulations they had, they can go to the Hockey East.

PS You also gotta love what the NCHC did by making an announcement. Doesn't give ND the ability to say they chose Hockey East over the NCHC when they only have one option now.
 
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I don't speak for all Irish fans, but I'm thrilled that we may get to play in the best college hockey conference in the nation.
 
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I don't speak for all Irish fans, but I'm thrilled that we may get to play in the best college hockey conference in the nation.
As a hockey east and Merrimack fan/alumnus we are thrilled to welcome you. I like your style of hockey, gritty and hard working. Played a hell of a game against us coming back in the 3rd last year at regionals. Looking forward to playing you regularly.
 
NCHC moving on without Notre Dame

Link: http://undhockey.areavoices.com/?p=88477

I haven't really been a fan of the NCHC brass but I absolutely respect the decision they've made. Didn't cave to the demands of Notre Dame. They may be a "name" or a "brand" but I'm glad the NCHC didn't accommodate these nose in the air *****s. It is apparent, ND wanted to be what Texas is to the Big XII but smaller and well, hockey.

I would've been mad about this if the NCHC didn't do anything about trying to get ND into the NCHC but it is obvious that Notre Dame bit off more than they could chew by asking for incentives that the NCHC is not willing to give them. So with that said, I'm fine with the teams in the NCHC. Sucks that ND isn't coming but with the stipulations they had, they can go to the Hockey East.

PS You also gotta love what the NCHC did by making an announcement. Doesn't give ND the ability to say they chose Hockey East over the NCHC when they only have one option now.

Honestly, I think Notre Dame had decided on its future before the NCHC announcement was released.
 
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Honestly, I think Notre Dame had decided on its future before the NCHC announcement was released.

Totally agree, NCHC didn't want to look bad

College Hockey News is telling a different story:
A little more on what we mean ... ND preferred NCHC ... neither side was willing to budge on what was important to them ... so ...

... ND was going to just go to HEA, and that would make it seem like that was their first choice ... NCHC doesn't want that impression ...

... instead, pre-emptively releases that they are the ones that decided ... which again, not the whole truth ... A PR game basically.
Link: http://twitter.com/#!/chnews

So somewhat correct but a little incorrect as well. Sounds to me that ND is settling with Hockey East but the NCHC made a PR move to make it seem like they made the decision for ND. Lot's of half-truths going on if you ask me.
 
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So somewhat correct but a little incorrect as well. Sounds to me that ND is settling with Hockey East but the NCHC made a PR move to make it seem like they made the decision for ND. Lot's of half-truths going on if you ask me.

Sounds to me like NCHC doesn't want to look bad.
 
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

ND may just get left to form a league with UAH. Remember, HE was only taking them if they could find a second school. Gawd please do not let RPI be that team...
 
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

Sounds to me like NCHC doesn't want to look bad.
Yeah, they must've paid CHN to say Notre Dame preferred NCHC over Hockey East. :rolleyes:

Or is it that you, as a fan of a Hockey East team, doesn't like that your league was the second choice? Which I don't understand why since ND is ultimately going to be settling with that choice. :confused:
 
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Note to bertagna. You don't have to ruin a good thing...notre dame has absolutely NO leverage if they want to get into hockey east. Take a hint from the NCHC and don't give in to their absurd demands.
 
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Why would any HE fan be upset at being NDs second choice? All along, the NCHC made more sense for them.
 
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Yeah, they must've paid CHN to say Notre Dame preferred NCHC over Hockey East. :rolleyes:

Or is it that you, as a fan of a Hockey East team, doesn't like that your league was the second choice? Which I don't understand why since ND is ultimately going to be settling with that choice. :confused:

Don't really give a dam if we're ND's second choice or not...our league backs up our prestige with National Championships...ND having us as their "second" choice aint changing that. NCHC has more face to save here than Hockey East....
 
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Just looking at one season is not a good indicator, so I used the information compiled by Kevin Kurtt and posted on the <a href=http://www.letsplayhockey.com/CollegetoNHL0910.html>Let’s Play Hockey</a> website from 1999-2011, excepting 2004-05.

I, for one, am disappointed this data wasn't already part of your "database"...
 
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

I miss going down to Albany for the RPI/Union weekend, hell RPI is closer to UVM than every school in HE. That said is the resent RPI surge a fluke or just a nice
run? It has been a while since they were a consistant NCAA tourney contender.

I have been to the Fieldhouse about 6 times and while the rink can be hard to find for those who have not been there before it has some nice points, for one the parking is nice and close and I liked that the visiting fans get to sit behind the net thier team shoots at twice, which you never can get anywhere else unless you want to sit in enemy territory. Would also add another host school to HE at a usual NCAA site.
 
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

Is it necessarily the case that ND is not going to go the independent route and angle for an eventual Big-10 invite?
 
If Bertagna lets Notre Dame bend us over like ND does to everyone else in the other sports I'm going to kick him in the nuts.

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Don't really give a dam if we're ND's second choice or not...our league backs up our prestige with National Championships...ND having us as their "second" choice aint changing that. NCHC has more face to save here than Hockey East....

Agreed on the last bit. NCHC didn't want to let Notre Dame come out and say Hockey East was their first choice. So they made a preemptive move saying they'll start league play as 8 teams(even though there is a lot of time between now and when the NCHC starts). Either way, the NCHC and ND played a game with each other and it didn't end well since neither got what they wanted.

What happened between the NCHC and Notre Dame benefits Hockey East though. Notre Dame no longer has any leverage which J.D. already alluded to.
 
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Is it necessarily the case that ND is not going to go the independent route and angle for an eventual Big-10 invite?

Too lazy to find the quote, but Jeff Jackson said somewhere that going independent is not an option they are considering.

Edit: Here it is.

Jackson expects Notre Dame to decide on its conference affiliation for the 2013-2014 season in the next few days.

It will likely be the Hockey East or the National Collegiate Hockey Conference, he said, with television being a major factor.

Independence, he added, is not an option.

“We have great choices,” Jackson said of both conferences. “Either way, we can’t go wrong.”
 
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