sterlippo1
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Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
you can tell from this thread that the season is at hand
you can tell from this thread that the season is at hand
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Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
- Thread starter jcarter7669
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Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Geez, just when I thought you were almost on the verge of tolerating the Warriors
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
This wouldn't surprise me, probably a push lead by Calhoun. Thing is, football runs through the first two months or so of the basketball season already, and hockey is generally played on nights when college basketball is dormant. Saturday games could easily be scheduled in the afternoon if there's a home basketball game that night. It would be foolish to think that UConn hockey would detract from attendance at any basketball game. Calhoun's Braintree stubbornness at work there.
This wouldn't surprise me, probably a push lead by Calhoun. Thing is, football runs through the first two months or so of the basketball season already, and hockey is generally played on nights when college basketball is dormant. Saturday games could easily be scheduled in the afternoon if there's a home basketball game that night. It would be foolish to think that UConn hockey would detract from attendance at any basketball game. Calhoun's Braintree stubbornness at work there.
jcarter7669
Registered User
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
I'd rather have MC. Just merge the UMass schools and let in ND.
I'd rather have MC. Just merge the UMass schools and let in ND.
Thiessen'sBetter
New member
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
http://www.examiner.com/college-hockey-in-boston/six-early-candidates-for-hockey-east-poty
Another Hockey East preview article I wrote for examiner.com.
http://www.examiner.com/college-hockey-in-boston/six-early-candidates-for-hockey-east-poty
Another Hockey East preview article I wrote for examiner.com.
SteveF
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Letting them go out on a high note like John elway
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
They have nothing to worry about that as I don't think UConn hockey would bring in a ton of cash
On the other hand, Connecticut has been a very valuable recruiting ground for both BC and BU. If UConn put in the effort, I think they could be a competitive program.
They have nothing to worry about that as I don't think UConn hockey would bring in a ton of cash
On the other hand, Connecticut has been a very valuable recruiting ground for both BC and BU. If UConn put in the effort, I think they could be a competitive program.
Split-N
All Hail
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
I doubt it's a $$$ issue. More about attention and more specifically, not wanting to share the stage, even though hockey wouldn't take up much room.They have nothing to worry about that as I don't think UConn hockey would bring in a ton of cash
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Hockey East has one of the most competitive leagues with the least travel cost per team in college sports. Keep it as is, it's still going to arguably be the premier league in the nation without those little irish people and honestly do you guys really think notre dame plans to stay in hockey east forever? I bet they bolt within 10 years, then we have to fill their hole with some slouch like uconn or something.
Hockey East has one of the most competitive leagues with the least travel cost per team in college sports. Keep it as is, it's still going to arguably be the premier league in the nation without those little irish people and honestly do you guys really think notre dame plans to stay in hockey east forever? I bet they bolt within 10 years, then we have to fill their hole with some slouch like uconn or something.
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Money is a gigantic issue. Hockey is the most expensive sport to maintain (certainly cheaper than basketball). I dont think the teams that play hockey and baskeball (Michigan, Boston College, PC, Wisconsin, Ohio State) worry about things like that.
Money is a gigantic issue. Hockey is the most expensive sport to maintain (certainly cheaper than basketball). I dont think the teams that play hockey and baskeball (Michigan, Boston College, PC, Wisconsin, Ohio State) worry about things like that.
Slapshot08
Registered User
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
NCAA players playing in the NHL last year, by conference. http://collegehockeyinc.com/in-the-nhl.
WCHA 93
CCHA 86
HEA 62
ECAC 48
CHA 2
AHA 2
D-III 1
Some surprises/comments:
1) The gap between Hockey East and the top 2 conferences
2) ECAC not too far behind Hockey East
3) Can't imagine how much work and luck it took Aucoin to get to the NHL from D-III Norwich
NCAA players playing in the NHL last year, by conference. http://collegehockeyinc.com/in-the-nhl.
WCHA 93
CCHA 86
HEA 62
ECAC 48
CHA 2
AHA 2
D-III 1
Some surprises/comments:
1) The gap between Hockey East and the top 2 conferences
2) ECAC not too far behind Hockey East
3) Can't imagine how much work and luck it took Aucoin to get to the NHL from D-III Norwich
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
So? Does the west generally get more individual talent? Ya I'd say so, but it doesn't stick around long. Hockey East has won 3 of the last 4 NCs and has been competitive for a long time, I'd still say we are a premier conference, although those stats are kind of interesting.
So? Does the west generally get more individual talent? Ya I'd say so, but it doesn't stick around long. Hockey East has won 3 of the last 4 NCs and has been competitive for a long time, I'd still say we are a premier conference, although those stats are kind of interesting.
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Also, the CCHA has 11 teams and the WCHA has 12 so that cuts the gap a bit if you consider average NHL players per school. ECAC also 12 widening that gap a bit.
Also, the CCHA has 11 teams and the WCHA has 12 so that cuts the gap a bit if you consider average NHL players per school. ECAC also 12 widening that gap a bit.
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Different style of hockey. Western teams play bigger; they are, or at least in the past have been, more physical. Eastern teams have been smaller but faster. When many of the players from the successful smaller-built teams try to head to the NHL all of a sudden that style of play isn't all that conducive to winning championships. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but I think in general, it might offer some explanation as to why we see more NHL talent come from the west.
Different style of hockey. Western teams play bigger; they are, or at least in the past have been, more physical. Eastern teams have been smaller but faster. When many of the players from the successful smaller-built teams try to head to the NHL all of a sudden that style of play isn't all that conducive to winning championships. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but I think in general, it might offer some explanation as to why we see more NHL talent come from the west.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Duh. I mean I hate to do that, but that's been the over-riding behavior for the last 7 years, that doesn't change on a dime. Just tired of having to re-iterate the positively obvious over and over again.
Duh. I mean I hate to do that, but that's been the over-riding behavior for the last 7 years, that doesn't change on a dime. Just tired of having to re-iterate the positively obvious over and over again.
John_Fuller
New member
Re: Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :
Here's my thoughts as I posted in the Lowell forum last night.
1. BU:
On paper, they are absolutely loaded up front with Coyle, Chiasson, Connolly, Gill, Trivino, etc. Still a couple of question marks on a talent-laden but young defense. Which Millian will be seen, the freshman/junior version or the sophomore version.
2. BC:
As usual, lots of offensive skill, speed, and vets, but we'll see about how much they miss Muse. The usual shoo-in for home ice, but not having Muse does cost them a regular-season championship.
3. UNH:
Every time you think UNH will take a step back, they maintain consistency in offense. USCHO's #1 goalie however is going to be tested a lot more with a defense that has lost a lot of experience and is rather young.
4: Merrimack
There's no replacing DaCosta, but this is a very senior-laden team that is talented and going to give people fits, especially in their barn. If their sophomore class of Heywood, Ellis, and Collins contribute even more than they did last year, watch out, because they could very well challenge for the RS crown.
Roll dice....seeds 6-10 could be between 6-10 and separated at the end of the year by a few points.
5: Maine
Positioned better than the rest of the pack, they will miss Nyquist more than Merrimack misses DaCosta. Good senior class for offense and a better than average defense. Goaltending will be the problem here in Maine as none of the three goalies currently listed bring fear.
6. Amherst
This team scares me...while young, they have a lot of potential in their large sophomore class. I'm really high on Adam Phillips and Jeff Teglia. This team completely destroyed Lowell in the two games at the Zoo last year and they could be this year's version of Merrimack. Offense is a concern.
7. Lowell
New coach, upgraded rink, a much more stable defense, and a goaltender who was on some radars last years as one of the best freshman netminders. The key will be how much the sophomore class makes the jump from overwhelmed freshmen to seasoned sophomores. We'll see if the new style of play promised to Lowell fans leads to more scoring and better defense.
8. Vermont
Yes, they have Madore, and I do like Brickley, Lenz, and Stalberg. Before I can hop on the Chittenden Country Transit Authority bus from the airport to campus, this team has to stop being the Michael Ryder of Hockey East and get consistent scoring. They can drop a nine-spot on you one game, and get shut out for the next two.
9. Northeastern
Northeastern could very will finish anywhere for 5th to 10th and with the three-ring circus that happened since the BU playoff series. I do think they have some decent talent with their junior class (we'll see about Saponari )
10. Providence
Nate Leaman, good coach. Like Mark Dennehy, there will be more growing pains to clean out this program and that means time. Berglund is one of my favorite HE players and will have his hands full. Then again, that's why the play the games.
Here's my thoughts as I posted in the Lowell forum last night.
1. BU:
On paper, they are absolutely loaded up front with Coyle, Chiasson, Connolly, Gill, Trivino, etc. Still a couple of question marks on a talent-laden but young defense. Which Millian will be seen, the freshman/junior version or the sophomore version.
2. BC:
As usual, lots of offensive skill, speed, and vets, but we'll see about how much they miss Muse. The usual shoo-in for home ice, but not having Muse does cost them a regular-season championship.
3. UNH:
Every time you think UNH will take a step back, they maintain consistency in offense. USCHO's #1 goalie however is going to be tested a lot more with a defense that has lost a lot of experience and is rather young.
4: Merrimack
There's no replacing DaCosta, but this is a very senior-laden team that is talented and going to give people fits, especially in their barn. If their sophomore class of Heywood, Ellis, and Collins contribute even more than they did last year, watch out, because they could very well challenge for the RS crown.
Roll dice....seeds 6-10 could be between 6-10 and separated at the end of the year by a few points.
5: Maine
Positioned better than the rest of the pack, they will miss Nyquist more than Merrimack misses DaCosta. Good senior class for offense and a better than average defense. Goaltending will be the problem here in Maine as none of the three goalies currently listed bring fear.
6. Amherst
This team scares me...while young, they have a lot of potential in their large sophomore class. I'm really high on Adam Phillips and Jeff Teglia. This team completely destroyed Lowell in the two games at the Zoo last year and they could be this year's version of Merrimack. Offense is a concern.
7. Lowell
New coach, upgraded rink, a much more stable defense, and a goaltender who was on some radars last years as one of the best freshman netminders. The key will be how much the sophomore class makes the jump from overwhelmed freshmen to seasoned sophomores. We'll see if the new style of play promised to Lowell fans leads to more scoring and better defense.
8. Vermont
Yes, they have Madore, and I do like Brickley, Lenz, and Stalberg. Before I can hop on the Chittenden Country Transit Authority bus from the airport to campus, this team has to stop being the Michael Ryder of Hockey East and get consistent scoring. They can drop a nine-spot on you one game, and get shut out for the next two.
9. Northeastern
Northeastern could very will finish anywhere for 5th to 10th and with the three-ring circus that happened since the BU playoff series. I do think they have some decent talent with their junior class (we'll see about Saponari
) 10. Providence
Nate Leaman, good coach. Like Mark Dennehy, there will be more growing pains to clean out this program and that means time. Berglund is one of my favorite HE players and will have his hands full. Then again, that's why the play the games.
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