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Hockey East 2011 - 2012 :

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FlagDUDE08 said:
Albany is not upstate. The "upstate" line is an imaginary line drawn tangent to the southern edge of Lake Ontario. Anything north of that is upstate.
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if you don't think albany is upstate, you clearly have no understanding of geography or reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

"YELLOW: Area usually considered "Upstate", along with the blue and green areas"
 
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thebleedenator said:
if you don't think albany is upstate, you clearly have no understanding of geography or reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

"YELLOW: Area usually considered "Upstate", along with the blue and green areas"
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The key word is "usually." Different NYers have different definitions of "upstate." If you see on that map, there's the green area that is "always considered upstate" and that seems to be what FD (who I am aware grew up in that area) is talking about. If you're from NYC, Yonkers is upstate. If you're from Plattsburgh, that's generally scoffed at.
 
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thebleedenator said:
if you don't think albany is upstate, you clearly have no understanding of geography or reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstate_New_York

"YELLOW: Area usually considered "Upstate", along with the blue and green areas"
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Notice the difference between "usually" and "always". Having grown up in the area that is ALWAYS considered Upstate, I do not consider "usually" to be upstate.

EDIT: Exactly as RC posted. I love how someone not from the state (at least currently) is trying to educate someone from the state about their state.
 
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Wholin1 said:
Is anyone else annoyed that the world turns around Notre Dame? :rolleyes:
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Yep. My preference all along has been to keep ND out of Hockey East anyway. But, at the same time, I would give credit to Bertagna for thinking outside the box.

Jasma said:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/09/28_notre_dame_decision_not_the.php
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"The school that most likely fits in is Rensselaer. On the one hand, its academic profile and size — not to mention geography — more closely resembles its fellow ECAC schools. On the other hand, RPI was courted by Hockey East twice before, when it was formed in the early '80s, and again in the mid-'90s, ultimately deciding against it both times."

That's a lot of hands.

Hokydad said:
better known as the BC/BU schedule

BS that MC didnt get at least one game after there play and following last season
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Seriously, UVM at BC twice to end the season on consecutive nights?
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Definitely odd to see almost all the games involving BC home games, but this isn't counting the NESN schedule obviously.
 
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By the way, at least it appears RPI has hockey fans, unlike ND. RPI isn't even in the league yet and we've already got battles going.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Notice the difference between "usually" and "always". Having grown up in the area that is ALWAYS considered Upstate, I do not consider "usually" to be upstate.

EDIT: Exactly as RC posted. I love how someone not from the state (at least currently) is trying to educate someone from the state about their state.
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Im from Long Island.

Anything north of the bronx is Upstate. Always.
 
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It's refreshing to see a geography debate in a Hockey East thread center around something other than "BC's not in Boston!!!" "Yeah but Conte is!!!"
 
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J.D. said:
Definitely odd to see almost all the games involving BC home games, but this isn't counting the NESN schedule obviously.
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And whatever other TV deal Bertagna has cooking...
 
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J.D. said:
By the way, at least it appears RPI has hockey fans, unlike ND. RPI isn't even in the league yet and we've already got battles going.
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We're here. Our heads are just worn out from the ping-pong game of HE-NCHC-HE-NCHC-HE and the rampant, often ridiculous speculation and rumor-mongering. Not to mention the sad fact that the local paper does not recognize any sport other than ND football, so if we want to hear any talk of what ifs, we have to go to the Bowling Green or Kalamazoo papers, or, worse, papers in Minnesota or Nebraska.

Most of us want to go to the new conference for lots of reasons: recruiting, smaller conference possibly allowing for more OOC games, travel and scheduling won't be as much of a nightmare, etc. And really, why would I want my team to be the 3rd (or 11th) wheel in an established conference?

I can NOT wait til this is over so I can focus on my team, the upcoming games, the new arena and the promise of a great season.
 
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J.D. said:
By the way, at least it appears RPI has hockey fans, unlike ND. RPI isn't even in the league yet and we've already got battles going.
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A lot of us still remember when we were in the same league as many of you, and as has been mentioned RPI has played every HE team in the last few years.
 
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thebleedenator said:
Im from Long Island.

Anything north of the bronx is Upstate. Always.
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Understandable from your perspective and understood from mine... but he's still got his perspective and neither's "right."

At the very least thank you for staying civil about it.
 
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thebleedenator said:
Im from Long Island.

Anything north of the bronx is Upstate. Always.
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We're not going to agree on this one, but so be it.

Forgive me for being "touchy" on the subject, having been labeled as "Canadian" simply because people (even in Central NY, and by that I mean where I live now) do not understand the portion I call "upstate" actually exists as part of New York State and the USA. I am proud to have spent my entire life living in this state, and that includes several parts of it (although never southeast of I-88).
 
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Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres. said:
Most of us want to go to the new conference for lots of reasons: recruiting, smaller conference possibly allowing for more OOC games, travel and scheduling won't be as much of a nightmare, etc. And really, why would I want my team to be the 3rd (or 11th) wheel in an established conference?
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An 11 team HE with ND would probably go to a 10*2=20 conference games schedule giving ND 5 home/5 road series a season. However, HE would likely add a 12th team and go to an 11*2=22 conference games schedule with ND having 5 home series/6 road series one season and 6 home series/5 road series the next season. I'm interested in how many conference games would you have in a nine team NCHC.

Sean
 
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Sean Pickett said:
I'm interested in how many conference games would you have in a nine team NCHC.
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On first glance, maybe it would be similar to the 8x3= 24 conference games scheme that HEA used before Vermont came aboard? The travel is a little more in the NCHC but it doesn't seem like it would be impossible.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
I'm interested in how many conference games would you have in a nine team NCHC.

Sean
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They could do 3 geographic pods (that could even rotate non-geographically yearly) with 4 games against the 2 in their pod and 2 against the other league teams to total 20 league games. For example, ND-Miami-WMU could be one geographic pod with NoDak-UMD-SCSU and DU-CC-UNO the others.
 
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As for this geography debate, bleedenator or whoever used the internet, therefore he is right.


As for hockey east, we better not suck or I'll be ****ed. I'm probably going to be ****ed.
 
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