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Hockey East 2010-2011

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CHFAN222 said:
Question for UVM fans.

According to this site http://www.seasonticketwaitinglist.com/2008/01/vermont-catamounts-mens-hockey-season.html

UVM has plans to build a new larger arena to accommodate everyone on the waiting list. So if this is the case why hasn't it happened? I mean with such a long list it'd seem like a no brainer bring in a ton of revenue and help increase the size of their fanbase. Plus it would help out HE by having another state of the art arena to showcase.
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What happened was the economy, when UVM's investments dropped 2 years ago or so they put a freeze on all new building construction. They have had a study committee and a new arena was recomended, but over the past two years there has been a 10 million deficit that they have had to address, so the new arena has been put on hold. That said, IF things turn around it will likely be in the number two spot for constuction behind a new set of dorms that the crazy city council has mandated they constuct to free up housing. But yeah, seems like a no brainer. Waiting list for season tickets has stretched out to close to 15 years now, not to mention revenue from people buying per game tickets and added ability to host other events. The state isn't big on contributing either, they would rather shuttle money to K-12 education so that we can maintain a 5:1 student teacher ratio and so that the career welfare queens can sit home and watch Oprah.


mookie1995 said:
should i go all the way back to the 1st page?!? is there were you start to make good points? is there another place i could check instead?
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No, but checking back even 4-5 pages wouldn't hurt. Doesn't really bother me in the least but it would save you from looking ignorant. Your call.

It would also help to let issues already discussed die out so they don't have to go on forever. That would benefit everyone, so try and have a little compassion for your fellow posters.
 
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jcarter7669 said:
What happened was the economy, when UVM's investments dropped 2 years ago or so they put a freeze on all new building construction. They have had a study committee and a new arena was recomended, but over the past two years there has been a 10 million deficit that they have had to address, so the new arena has been put on hold. That said, IF things turn around it will likely be in the number two spot for constuction behind a new set of dorms that the crazy city council has mandated they constuct to free up housing. But yeah, seems like a no brainer. Waiting list for season tickets has stretched out to close to 15 years now, not to mention revenue from people buying per game tickets and added ability to host other events. The state isn't big on contributing either, they would rather shuttle money to K-12 education so that we can maintain a 5:1 student teacher ratio and so that the career welfare queens can sit home and watch Oprah.
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Surprising the state wouldn't contribute in this economy considering that it would generate construction jobs and jobs from a new state of the art arena able to host a lot of different events.
 
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CHFAN222 said:
Surprising the state wouldn't contribute in this economy considering that it would generate construction jobs and jobs from a new state of the art arena able to host a lot of different events.
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The state has a 150 million deficit and no idea how to make it up. . Besides they literally would rather pay twice as much as other states for K-12 education, and snub higher education so they can ***** about UVM being the most expensive public University. Takes the heat off the Legislature who are bought and paid servants of the NEA. But Vermont likes to educate young people so that when they move to another state they are well prepared to realize they should never ever return to VT unless they are ready to retire.

But yeah, someone should have applied for some stimulus funds... The Gutt has a great atmosphere, but I am sick of donating a grand every year to get season tickets while I toil on the waiting list for the 8th year in a row, with an estimated 7-8 years to go.
 
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jcarter7669 said:
The state has a 150 million deficit and no idea how to make it up. . Besides they literally would rather pay twice as much as other states for K-12 education, and snub higher education so they can ***** about UVM being the most expensive public University. Takes the heat off the Legislature who are bought and paid servants of the NEA. But Vermont likes to educate young people so that when they move to another state they are well prepared to realize they should never ever return to VT unless they are ready to retire.

But yeah, someone should have applied for some stimulus funds... The Gutt has a great atmosphere, but I am sick of donating a grand every year to get season tickets while I toil on the waiting list for the 8th year in a row, with an estimated 7-8 years to go.
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wow, i had no idea that they had a waiting list like that. so you pony up a grand every year to stay on the list basically?
 
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Maybe you guys should get Ben and Jerrys or whatever you have up there to donate. Imagine the Ben and Jerrys arena :rolleyes:
 
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sterlippo1 said:
wow, i had no idea that they had a waiting list like that. so you pony up a grand every year to stay on the list basically?
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No, you stay on the list for free, but you can donate $1000 to the "Victory Club" and get two season tickets.

it's why Gutterson has sold out pretty much every game over the past 5-6 years, the only time it doesn't sell out is about every year there is a game on SuperBowl Sunday....

Current Waitlist numbers

I'm around 400 :(
http://uvmathletics.com/sports/2010/7/23/GEN_0723102924.aspx?id=89
 
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CHFAN222 said:
Maybe you guys should get Ben and Jerrys or whatever you have up there to donate. Imagine the Ben and Jerrys arena :rolleyes:
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Ben and Jerry sold the biz out of state. No donations there. There are a few big donors that have contribute money although I have no idea how much, and clearly not enough at this point....

It will happen, just not until the stock market steadies itself a bit, or I win the powerball....
 
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I'm not one to question how they pay for things but at this point wouldn't it be profitable to raise the money through issuing bonds. I'm sure they could get good rates right now since investors are going after Bonds so heavily now. With the money the raise from increased revenue at hockey games + ice shows and concerts it would offset that.
 
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CHFAN222 said:
I'm not one to question how they pay for things but at this point wouldn't it be profitable to raise the money through issuing bonds. I'm sure they could get good rates right now since investors are going after Bonds so heavily now. With the money the raise from increased revenue at hockey games + ice shows and concerts it would offset that.
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Preaching to the choir...:D
 
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NUMcNeely said:
I mean besides skiing, what else is there to do in burlington in the winter?
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Well there is snowshoeing, ice fishing, snowmobiling, and of course sex.

Ever hear of "cabin fever" :eek:



Regardless, here is an article explaining the arena situation
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/126690


You will not that one hiccup is the sticker price....nearly 100 million which maybe going a little overboard.
 
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jcarter7669 said:
You will not that one hiccup is the sticker price....nearly 100 million which maybe going a little overboard.
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Not really. I mean BU spent what over $100 million on Agannis. The past round of renovations at NU cost well over $20 million. Arena construction is not cheap.
 
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CHFAN222 said:
Not really. I mean BU spent what over $100 million on Agannis. The past round of renovations at NU cost well over $20 million. Arena construction is not cheap.
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This is actually basically an addition though, not a de novo structure. It would tie into Gutterson and Patrick Gym. But yes, I do realize construction isn't cheap.
 
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