HEA QF's: #5 'Mack @ #4 Maine

[UncleRay]

Re: HEA QF's: #5 'Mack @ #4 Maine

The Abbott one I didn't get a great look at, looked like they were jousting and he went down. Tough to tell.

I've appreciated your thoughtful, reasoned, insightful posts. I haven't agreed with everything you've said, but then we sit on opposite sides of the fence. On the Abbott embellishment you must have been in Alfond. Sitting at home, I had the benefit of replay. After replay, after replay. Spence was hacked at by the first winger lined up with him before the center got thrown out. He then came over and poked Abbott's right skate out to the right, then swept Abbott's left skate out from under him. Abbott never reacted. He didn't so much as look over after his right foot was poked. He may as well have been a statue. But if I had been watching it in real time from the Merrimack section, I, too, would have assumed the two were jostling, since that is usually what is going on. In this case, however, Abbott had his stick on the ice and didn't even move it.

 

[UncleRay]

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Toomey got shoved into the side of the net by 2 Maine players after a whistle, pushed O'Neill back, he snapped his head back, looked right at the ref and drew the call.

If that is the call I'm thinking of, Toomey got physical with Sullivan when he shouldn't have and then there was some pushing and shoving. I didn't hear the call, but assumed Toomey had been given the gate for goalie interference.

 

[Priceless]

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The yells of "embellishment" were aimed more at Officer Benny than Cannata anyway. Hopefully Maine doesn't see him in Boston.

 

[rdurk86]

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If that is the call I'm thinking of, Toomey got physical with Sullivan when he shouldn't have and then there was some pushing and shoving. I didn't hear the call, but assumed Toomey had been given the gate for goalie interference.

I think he got 2 for hitting after the whistle and it was the shove to O'Neill that did it. I think it started with him taking the puck to the net, could be wrong though.

 

[walrus]

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but don't make it sound like the Maine players were choir boys out there too.

You're talking to fans of Joey Diamond, need I say more But for the most part Maine plays hockey, not so sure about MC, lots of crap after the whistle. I think you should find a tape of the Abbott incident Sunday night and then come back and tell us what you think after seeing it on camera. When both MC players are screwing with Spence in the faceoff circle,I find it hard to believe it wasn't coached.

 

[BoSox3066]

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Never mind Luongo. Joe Canatta's one of the good ones, so don't take this the wrong way, but I've seen Cory Schneider, and Joe Canatta is no Cory Schneider. Canatta's 3 years away easy.

 

[acs64]

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You're talking to fans of Joey Diamond, need I say more But for the most part Maine plays hockey, not so sure about MC, lots of crap after the whistle. I think you should find a tape of the Abbott incident Sunday night and then come back and tell us what you think after seeing it on camera. When both MC players are screwing with Spence in the faceoff circle,I find it hard to believe it wasn't coached.

Of course it was coached. Dennehy directed his guys to muck it up with Abbott....no question.

Dennehys a piece of work. A team is alwayz a reflection of the guy pushing the buttons behind the bench.

 

[gscott13]

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I've appreciated your thoughtful, reasoned, insightful posts. I haven't agreed with everything you've said, but then we sit on opposite sides of the fence. On the Abbott embellishment you must have been in Alfond. Sitting at home, I had the benefit of replay. After replay, after replay. Spence was hacked at by the first winger lined up with him before the center got thrown out. He then came over and poked Abbott's right skate out to the right, then swept Abbott's left skate out from under him. Abbott never reacted. He didn't so much as look over after his right foot was poked. He may as well have been a statue. But if I had been watching it in real time from the Merrimack section, I, too, would have assumed the two were jostling, since that is usually what is going on. In this case, however, Abbott had his stick on the ice and didn't even move it.

working on uploading it, but youtube is taking forever...

 

[MCHOCKEY]

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No offense guys, but most of the MC fans on this site are giving all the credit in the world to Maine...Maine outplayed us in Games 1 and 3...Game 2, well, I don't think anybody really outplayed anybody as there was no flow to the game. We just got a few more in the net, plain and simple. And if I'm not mistaken, were the Power Plays 6 to 1 in favor of Maine yesterday? Complain all you want about the Abbott play (trust me, I was swearing at my TV for that one as it was pretty clear that the MC player was trying to get under his skin), you still got 6 pp's to our 1, including a 5-3 for a decent amount of time that got you guys off and running.

I've long admired the Maine fans and teams...and until last year, we never really had that chance to be mentioned in the same breath as them...this year, it just wasn't in the cards...we took it to the brink, lost 2-1 in game 3 (and game 1) and are now sitting home hoping for a miracle, that will never come...I'll always root for Maine right after MC, so GO Maine...Go Blue...I'm not sure if Jeff the flag waver that travels with the Maine band is still there, but if he is, tell him Justin and Rob say hello. About 10 years ago, we met him and the band and fans at Jose McIntyres and had the greatest time with them...ended up on the bus to the garden with them and even bear paws on our faces. It was a blast...Maine fans back then were like a family...And I was honored to be welcomed into that family. So good luck at the Garden and beyond. From this MC fan, I'm wishing you guys nothing but the best.

M-A-I-N-E GOOOO BLUE. (until next year, than it's back on the 'Mack wagon )

 

[boblav1]

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Of course it was coached. Dennehy directed his guys to muck it up with Abbott....no question.

Dennehys a piece of work. A team is alwayz a reflection of the guy pushing the buttons behind the bench.

It was great being to able to see all the games on WBIN but the camera work was pretty bad at times. Behind the play a lot.

How much did Merrimack hang a guy at center ice during the series?

 

[gscott13]

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I'm not sure if Jeff the flag waver that travels with the Maine band is still there, but if he is, tell him Justin and Rob say hello. About 10 years ago, we met him and the band and fans at Jose McIntyres and had the greatest time with them...ended up on the bus to the garden with them and even bear paws on our faces. It was a blast...

as i recall, justin might have set a personal best (or worst depending on how you view it) for inebriation that year... good times...

 

[RENCEB]

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Of course it was coached. Dennehy directed his guys to muck it up with Abbott....no question.

Dennehys a piece of work. A team is alwayz a reflection of the guy pushing the buttons behind the bench.

Yup, co-COY winner in '09-'10 with Umile; I'm guessing was strongly considered last year, although I can't argue with Jerry York getting that award any year. Try as I might, I can't find TIMMAY's name on the list anywhere.

MD took over a program that was an absolute disaster, a perrenial dormat, and made them a much stronger program. They'll never be a BC/BU or UNH/Maine in terms of a "program" (long running excellence), but I hope to see them regularly in the mix for 3-6th, regularly in the HE playoffs with maybe an occasional run at the top. You, and many others may disagree with the way it has been done with older players, cast-offs, and an occasional star dropping into their laps (hello Cannata and Da Costa), but I think he does a hellava job with the resources he has and the players he can get.

Tell me this: would you trade coaches?

 

[BearNecessity]

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I didn't see it, but that sounds like the very definition of embellishment under the rule... doing somethign to draw the attention of the referee after an infraction... embellishment is not "diving" or faking a trip, it is simply calling attention to an infraction.

that said... REALLY??? after this weekend you cannot understand WHY some Maine fans might want MC called for embellishment? REALLY?
the Mangene embellishment when he was skating 37 mph and got hooked... REALLY?
and I have read a ton about the Abbott embellishemnt call in the second on Sunday... in your opinion, was it the right call?

Cannata was a true injury trying to make a great save, late in the 3rd game in 3 nights...anyomne who jeered or sneered is a weasel, Abbott call in second was as bad a call as I have seen, 2 players repeatedly hacked , hooked etc were warned by ref...and yet...Abbott gets gate too...best part was on other side of the ice, when Toomey slashed Cornell, and Cornell skated away from a punchby aniother MC player to get the advantage....not sure what caused Toomey's slash, but no love lost there. Pryor's embellishment when he was hooked and both feet went forward was another example of the refs thinking that the gamne is about them...who dives feet first, in their own end , with the risk of loosing the puck ? And the sophomoric 'floater" play by MC....made it feel like Dennehey was trying to play pond hockey.....oh well on to the GAHDEN.....

 

[MCHOCKEY]

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as i recall, justin might have set a personal best (or worst depending on how you view it) for inebriation that year... good times...

Hey now...I remember everything from that year...a few years later (2004), the same can not be said (as you can tell by the footer of all my posts). It was a personal best for me to drink as much as I did, not lose consciousness and remember EVERYTHING LOL Glad you remember me gscott LOL Where you guys have the late game, I might have to make my way in (wearing my Black Bears hat of course...the MC hat retired for the season LOL). If you see me and remember me, come say hello.

 

[gscott13]

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Hey now...I remember everything from that year...a few years later (2004), the same can not be said (as you can tell by the footer of all my posts). It was a personal best for me to drink as much as I did, not lose consciousness and remember EVERYTHING LOL Glad you remember me gscott LOL Where you guys have the late game, I might have to make my way in (wearing my Black Bears hat of course...the MC hat retired for the season LOL). If you see me and remember me, come say hello.

i knew it was one of those years... back when i was still living down there... thinking about making the trip down, but not a guarantee just yet... have some logistical hurdles to clear first to make it happen...

 

[acs64]

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Yup, co-COY winner in '09-'10 with Umile; I'm guessing was strongly considered last year, although I can't argue with Jerry York getting that award any year. Try as I might, I can't find TIMMAY's name on the list anywhere.

MD took over a program that was an absolute disaster, a perrenial dormat, and made them a much stronger program. They'll never be a BC/BU or UNH/Maine in terms of a "program" (long running excellence), but I hope to see them regularly in the mix for 3-6th, regularly in the HE playoffs with maybe an occasional run at the top. You, and many others may disagree with the way it has been done with older players, cast-offs, and an occasional star dropping into their laps (hello Cannata and Da Costa), but I think he does a hellava job with the resources he has and the players he can get.

Tell me this: would you trade coaches?

Straight up Mark for Timmay? Probably I guess, if I felt Mark could bring the level of talent to Maine that the current staff can. Mark for the combination of Timmay/Corkum? Nope. I'm not trying to trash on MC but I really do not like that style of play. I saw UAA do that to Maine many many years ago with sticks up under the helmets and I nearly puked. I enjoy seeing Toomey and some of the other MC guys who can motor do just that (motor) because thats the skating game and what I think college hockey should be all about....the cheap stuff imo needs to be left somewhere else.

 

[UncleRay]

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Yup, co-COY winner in '09-'10 with Umile; I'm guessing was strongly considered last year, although I can't argue with Jerry York getting that award any year. Try as I might, I can't find TIMMAY's name on the list anywhere.

In all fairness to TW, he won national COY his first year in Maine but got stiffed by Jacky and Jerry for HE COY. Frankly, he got robbed. Yes, it was Shawn's team, but being able to keep a team together after that autumn...

Tell me this: would you trade coaches?

We'd trade TW for Walter Matthau in Bad News Bears! I agree with what acs just said, but who knows how MD would coach with other players. Maybe he wouldn't feel the need to play rough.

 

[gscott13]

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I've appreciated your thoughtful, reasoned, insightful posts. I haven't agreed with everything you've said, but then we sit on opposite sides of the fence. On the Abbott embellishment you must have been in Alfond. Sitting at home, I had the benefit of replay. After replay, after replay. Spence was hacked at by the first winger lined up with him before the center got thrown out. He then came over and poked Abbott's right skate out to the right, then swept Abbott's left skate out from under him. Abbott never reacted. He didn't so much as look over after his right foot was poked. He may as well have been a statue. But if I had been watching it in real time from the Merrimack section, I, too, would have assumed the two were jostling, since that is usually what is going on. In this case, however, Abbott had his stick on the ice and didn't even move it.

 

[walrus]

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How much did Merrimack hang a guy at center ice during the series?

When ever they were behind, so alot on Friday and Sunday

 

[walrus]

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If Dennehy was going to play the same style at Maine that he does at MC, I wouldn't trade for him. I doubt that would be the case, he's playing the style at MC that gives him the best chance to win, I can appreciate that. I think its possible if he keeps winning he'll get better players and slow that crap down. The thing is if the opposing teams has some discipline that style simply won't work. It especially won't work without Canata next year